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Getting Netflix over Xbox without paying for Live Gold?

Rebate Addict 5,442 513 December 29, 2011 at 11:14 AM More NetFlix Deals
I just found out with the purchase of 2 new Xboxes that Microsoft wants you to pay for a Live Gold membership just for the option for paying for and viewing Netflix over the console you already paid for. Really Microsoft?? I like you but that's an Apple move! -- don't make me hate you! I have NO use for Live Gold AT ALL.

Can y'all please give me your favorite workarounds and describe the technical ability needed to make it work correctly and consistently and what cost (if any). For example, I downloaded TVersity a few years ago to watch online video content, and I never found it to work well at all -- was it me or TVersity? Dontknow

I've heard of vmcNetflix plugin for Windows Media Center but I'm not sure how well it works. I've heard of PlayOn, but that costs $20 a year (in which case I might as well get Gold for another $18).

Would love to hear your feedback on your workarounds! Thank you! +4 for help. Smilie

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This type of thing is my main complaint about the XBox. Pisses me off with all of the "Buy Gold" prompts when I try to do certain things.
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I just found out with the purchase of 2 new Xboxes that Microsoft wants you to pay for a Live Gold membership just for the option for paying for and viewing Netflix over the console you already paid for. Really Microsoft?? I like you but that's an Apple move! -- don't make me hate you! now I have NO use for Live Gold AT ALL.

Can y'all please give me your favorite workarounds and describe the technical ability needed to make it work correctly and consistently and what cost (if any). For example, I downloaded TVersity a few years ago to watch online video content, and I never found it to work well at all -- was it me or TVersity? Dontknow

I've heard of vmcNetflix plugin for Windows Media Center but I'm not sure how well it works. I've heard of PlayOn, but that costs $20 a year (in which case I might as well get Gold for another $18).

Would love to hear your feedback on your workarounds! Thank you! +4 for help. Smilie
1. sell/return the 2 360s
2. buy 2 PS3
3. ???
4. PROFIT!
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This type of thing is my main complaint about the XBox. Pisses me off with all of the "Buy Gold" prompts when I try to do certain things.
No kidding! I had *no clue* about this until I installed my new XBox (bought *specifically* for use as a Media Center). I'll be damned if I pay for Live Gold just so I can pay for and play Netflix over the console I already paid for.


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1. sell/return the 2 360s
2. buy 2 PS3
3. ???
4. PROFIT!
laugh out loud You know, if I weren't so intrenched in Media Center (I've had a Media Center DVR for almost a decade now) and Xbox games (Guitar Hero, DDR, Dance Central, YDKJ -- Clearly I'm a casual gamer), I might switch. But I'm in too deep now. I really didn't expect this crap move from Microsoft.

Anyone using workarounds??
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No kidding! I had *no clue* about this until I installed my new XBox (bought *specifically* for use as a Media Center). I'll be damned if I pay for Live Gold just so I can pay for and play Netflix over the console I already paid for.




laugh out loud You know, if I weren't so intrenched in Media Center (I've had a Media Center DVR for almost a decade now) and Xbox games (Guitar Hero, DDR, Dance Central, YDKJ -- Clearly I'm a casual gamer), I might switch. But I'm in too deep now. I really didn't expect this crap move from Microsoft.

Anyone using workarounds??
spend the $50 on a ruku box or one of the other media boxes that can play netflix or buy a blu ray player. Save your self the time/ hassle / power of trying to figure out a work around.
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I'm not aware of a work around for streaming from netflix. Requiring Gold sub for netflix has been the rule of the game since they added that feature. I've seen it everywhere.

One way you might be able to avoid subscribing completely is to somehow get a lot of 48 hour trial codes, laugh out loud
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I use PlayOn, but I got it back when it was a one-time charge (now a PlayOn Basic license) so that doesn't really help you. It works, but it's clunky.
This is the first I've heard of vmcNetflix, I'll have to give it a try.


Hm, looks like you may not actually be able to use vmcNetflix anymore.
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spend the $50 on a ruku box or one of the other media boxes that can play netflix or buy a blu ray player. Save your self the time/ hassle / power of trying to figure out a work around.
I thought of that, but can Roku boxes play my Media Center recorded shows over network? That's why I bought the Xboxes - for the Media Center. But if the Rokus can retrieve and play my Media Center shows, I'll switch. I also assume one for each TV is needed?


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I'm not aware of a work around for streaming from netflix. Requiring Gold sub for netflix has been the rule of the game since they added that feature. I've seen it everywhere.

One way you might be able to avoid subscribing completely is to somehow get a lot of 48 hour trial codes, laugh out loud
Thanks! Big Grin SecretIs there a thread for how to do that?


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I use PlayOn, but I got it back when it was a one-time charge (now a PlayOn Basic license) so that doesn't really help you. It works, but it's clunky.
This is the first I've heard of vmcNetflix, I'll have to give it a try.


Hm, looks like you may not actually be able to use vmcNetflix anymore.
Thanks for that info -- I figured it may be clunky! Bummer. Frown Double bummer about the vmcNetflix Frown
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I thought of that, but can Roku boxes play my Media Center recorded shows over network? That's why I bought the Xboxes - for the Media Center. But if the Rokus can retrieve and play my Media Center shows, I'll switch. I also assume one for each TV is needed?
I dont know how xbox streams from the pc, im guessing it uses dlna, then its just finding a box that supports dlna and netflix (i think ruku does). I know the logitech revue does so I can watch netflix and stream videos from my laptop.
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Just connect your TV to your computer. Free.

Wii can do Netflix for free, but only in SD, PS3 has bet NF interface I think.
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I dont know how xbox streams from the pc, im guessing it uses dlna, then its just finding a box that supports dlna and netflix (i think ruku does). I know the logitech revue does so I can watch netflix and stream videos from my laptop.
Hmmm... From this article [engadget.com] it sounds like it uses (or used?) RDP protocol but "Microsoft has already adopted DLNA in a big way in Windows 7"... So I'm not sure. Anyone know for sure?

I just thought of another problem... Even if I *do* cough up the $40 for a Gold Membership, would it be usable on all 3 Xboxes simultaneously, on all 3 but only one at a time, or only on one Xbox? If it's usable on all three but only one at a time, would that even matter because I'm assuming that Netflix can only stream one movie at a time?
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Hmmm... From this article [engadget.com] it sounds like it uses (or used?) RDP protocol but "Microsoft has already adopted DLNA in a big way in Windows 7"... So I'm not sure. Anyone know for sure?

I just thought of another problem... Even if I *do* cough up the $40 for a Gold Membership, would it be usable on all 3 Xboxes simultaneously, on all 3 but only one at a time, or only on one Xbox? If it's usable on all three but only one at a time, would that even matter because I'm assuming that Netflix can only stream one movie at a time?
most basic accounts with netflix can only stream to 1 device at a time. As for the dlna thing if wmp does not support it im sure there is a free software out there to set one up, I think xbox 360 supports dlna so you could test it before buying new equipment.

edit: it sounds like the ruku box will do a lot of the work of the extenders, how do you record shows and where are they stored? on a desktop that is always on or one of these extenders? Or are these extenders just used to connect to the tv?
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most basic accounts with netflix can only stream to 1 device at a time. As for the dlna thing if wmp does not support it im sure there is a free software out there to set one up, I think xbox 360 supports dlna so you could test it before buying new equipment.

edit: it sounds like the ruku box will do a lot of the work of the extenders, how do you record shows and where are they stored? on a desktop that is always on or one of these extenders? Or are these extenders just used to connect to the tv?
I record shows with a dual tuner on my always-on desktop using Media Center software. The shows are stored on an external drive with the extensions of .dvr-ms (the Media Center assigns that extention). The shows can also be viewed in Windows Media Player.

The Xboxes use wifi to acces my drive to watch the shows stored on that one drive, but also to watch live TV (via a tuner on my desktop, which I plan to upgrade to a cable card tuner), and to view a TV guide (part of the Media Center software) and choose shows to record. They are in various parts of the house and used by various family members. Once I get the digital cable card quad tuner, this will allow all TVs with an Xbox to view premium & digital channels through the Xbox (vis a vis one of the available tuners on my tuner card) without paying the cable company for a box for each TV.

Can a Roku (or similar box) do all that? If so, I may jump ship.
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I record shows with a dual tuner on my always-on desktop using Media Center software. The shows are stored on an external drive with the extensions of .dvr-ms (the Media Center assigns that extention). The shows can also be viewed in Windows Media Player.

The Xboxes use wifi to acces my drive to watch the shows stored on that one drive, but also to watch live TV (via a tuner on my desktop, which I plan to upgrade to a cable card tuner), and to view a TV guide (part of the Media Center software) and choose shows to record. They are in various parts of the house and used by various family members. Once I get the digital cable card quad tuner, this will allow all TVs with an Xbox to view premium & digital channels through the Xbox (vis a vis one of the available tuners on my tuner card) without paying the cable company for a box for each TV.

Can a Roku (or similar box) do all that? If so, I may jump ship.
I think it depends on the dlna server not the box on the other end, as I said the xbox 360 supports dlna so you can always try a few on the xbox before spending money on a roku or a revue or apple tv. try the ps3 media server software (it seems to support dlna so should work on the xbox), maybe this [androidforums.com] guide if you have win 7. If not that then you just need to find a server that supports the type of video files you have.
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I think it depends on the dlna server not the box on the other end, as I said the xbox 360 supports dlna so you can always try a few on the xbox before spending money on a roku or a revue or apple tv. try the ps3 media server software (it seems to support dlna so should work on the xbox), maybe this [androidforums.com] guide if you have win 7. If not that then you just need to find a server that supports the type of video files you have.
Yes, PS3 Media Server works with the Xbox, but doesn't handle Netflix.
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