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In a business setting, upon encountering women with aggressive cleavage, where is the proper place to fix one's gaze in order to maintain a professional demeanor?
September 26, 2012 at
05:34 PM
Further: how does a person accomplish such a thing without being obvious about the avoidance?
In my new position I'm regularly sent into the offices of high-profile clients. We're talking about lobbying firms with partners who rub elbows with Congressmen; communications firms that brief Obama's cabinet and captains of industry on how to behave on camera; lawyers who spend a lot of time at the Supreme Court... you get the idea.
A shocking percentage of these offices are very old-fashioned about how the partners are coddled and cared-for: they basically have a bevy of young, attractive assistants who do everything from reading the partners their email to picking out bottles of scotch for Senator so-and-so.
I spend a lot of time with these young ladies since they are always the ones who have to figure out computer/Blackberry/printer/television/motorized tie rack problems for the partners. Every last one of them dresses provocatively. I don't think they're doing it entirely on purpose (and certainly not solely for my benefit), but there is still cleavage left, right, and center all damn day long.
I feel like they can tell I'm making a conscious effort to look them in the eye when we talk. And I'm not even pretending like that's an easy thing to do. Most of the time if I can remember 5% of what they were going on about, I'm doing well. I try very hard to get them to show me what they were doing on the computer/iPhone/copier/toaster oven so I can at least pretend to focus on the problem. The worst is when they want me to look over their shoulder at Mr. Namesonthedoor's new Galaxy SIII that won't sync... right behind that is when I have to face them over a low cubicle wall or divider.
In my head I'm thinking dontlookdownhershirt dontlookdownhershirt youllgetfiredsofastyourheadllspin forgodssakesdontlookdownherfarkingshirt so hard I'm sure these girls can hear it. Staring them right in the eyes doesn't help much when my--not peripheral, since it's usually more of a downward direction, what do you call that?--field of vision includes the jigglies. What the hell am I supposed to do?
tl;dr: bewbs!
In my new position I'm regularly sent into the offices of high-profile clients. We're talking about lobbying firms with partners who rub elbows with Congressmen; communications firms that brief Obama's cabinet and captains of industry on how to behave on camera; lawyers who spend a lot of time at the Supreme Court... you get the idea.
A shocking percentage of these offices are very old-fashioned about how the partners are coddled and cared-for: they basically have a bevy of young, attractive assistants who do everything from reading the partners their email to picking out bottles of scotch for Senator so-and-so.
I spend a lot of time with these young ladies since they are always the ones who have to figure out computer/Blackberry/printer/television/motorized tie rack problems for the partners. Every last one of them dresses provocatively. I don't think they're doing it entirely on purpose (and certainly not solely for my benefit), but there is still cleavage left, right, and center all damn day long.
I feel like they can tell I'm making a conscious effort to look them in the eye when we talk. And I'm not even pretending like that's an easy thing to do. Most of the time if I can remember 5% of what they were going on about, I'm doing well. I try very hard to get them to show me what they were doing on the computer/iPhone/copier/toaster oven so I can at least pretend to focus on the problem. The worst is when they want me to look over their shoulder at Mr. Namesonthedoor's new Galaxy SIII that won't sync... right behind that is when I have to face them over a low cubicle wall or divider.
In my head I'm thinking dontlookdownhershirt dontlookdownhershirt youllgetfiredsofastyourheadllspin forgodssakesdontlookdownherfarkingshirt so hard I'm sure these girls can hear it. Staring them right in the eyes doesn't help much when my--not peripheral, since it's usually more of a downward direction, what do you call that?--field of vision includes the jigglies. What the hell am I supposed to do?
tl;dr: bewbs!
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They expect you to look at their boobs in this case because that's what they want you to do, for whatever reason..
Look them in the eye, if at all possible... If not, see above! lol
P.s. You could always pretend to be gay... Then no problem staring at their boobs.
VQ, look at their noses. They'll think you are looking at their eyes and you might catch something in your peripheral vision.
Do you know: I actually had to turn SafeSearch ON to get closer to what I wanted? What's the world coming to?
This is a horrible image but would not be out of place at most of my clients. And sometimes the blouse or top is cut even lower, or criss-crossed some way that accentuates the jigglies... I don't know what you call it but most of these outfits seem perfectly fine if you're looking at them straight-on, but if you get even a small angle you can see straight to their navel. IF you're looking I mean. Which of course a gentleman would not be doing. Also the skirts would be shorter.
They expect you to look at their boobs in this case because that's what they want you to do, for whatever reason..
Look them in the eye, if at all possible... If not, see above! lol
P.s. You could always pretend to be gay... Then no problem staring at their boobs.
VQ, look at their noses. They'll think you are looking at their eyes and you might catch something in your peripheral vision.
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If not, then maybe you are not able to fix their device.
You do know what the elbow test is, correct?
Seems to me, they would all pass the elbow test from your description
First question is, though you are not theoretically looking, is the lower half of your body
doing the looking for you I just had to ask, it wouldn't be me if I didn't ask
Bewbs, bewbs, bewbs, bewbs, bewbs, bewbs, bewbs, bewbs, bewbs, bewbs!!!!!
If not, then maybe you are not able to fix their device.
You do know what the elbow test is, correct?
Seems to me, they would all pass the elbow test from your description
First question is, though you are not theoretically looking, is the lower half of your body
doing the looking for your I just had to ask, it wouldn't be me if I didn't ask
Bewbs, bewbs, bewbs, bewbs, bewbs, bewbs, bewbs, bewbs, bewbs, bewbs!!!!!
No, the elbow test is you put your elbows in front of you against a wall, if they touch before your bewbs, you are not hired I had a place of business tell me this when they hired me; this was wayyyyyy before political correctness came into vogue
That is sooooooooooooo good and I suppose that is exactly what VQ is experiencing
I'm way older than most of you and when younger, yes I was built quite well, and this place of business only hired built young women in their office Funny thing, they also questioned whether I drank "soda" or not, and I said "no" and that almost cost me getting the job there; as I'm an iced tea drinker. Beer and soda was a big part of their business, in the way of production in the plant; but I worked in the office.