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The Destruction of Susan Rice

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Susan Rice attended Stanford University, where she received a Truman Scholarship, and graduated with a B.A. in history in 1986. She was elected to Phi Beta Kappa.

Awarded a Rhodes Scholarship, Rice attended New College, Oxford, where she earned a M.Phil. in 1988 and D.Phil. in 1990. The Chatham House-British International Studies Association honored her dissertation entitled, "Commonwealth Initiative in Zimbabwe, 1979-1980: Implication for International Peacekeeping" as the UK's most distinguished in international relations.

She went on to work for the National Security Council in 1992 and was appointed Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs in 1997. At a confirmation hearing chaired by Senator Jesse Helms, Rice, who attended the hearing along with her infant son, whom she was then nursing, made a great impression on Senators from both parties and "sailed through the confirmation process". In 2008, President Barack Obama nominated her to the Cabinet-level post of Ambassador to the United Nations.

And then came the attack on Benghazi. Secretary of State Clinton was out of the country that week, and Rice was tapped to make the rounds of the Sunday talk shows. Armed with intelligence that the attacks were the result of riots caused by an anti-Muslim video, Rice explained that these were not unlike the protests which erupted after the publication of offensive Danish cartoons, the Satanic Verses, etc. Her response on Meet the Press [msn.com]:
GREGORY: Well, let's talk-- talk about-- well, you talked about this as spontaneous. Can you say definitively that the attacks on-- on our consulate in Libya that killed ambassador Stevens and others there security personnel, that was spontaneous, was it a planned attack? Was there a terrorist element to it?

MS. RICE: Well, let us-- let me tell you the-- the best information we have at present. First of all, there's an FBI investigation which is ongoing. And we look to that investigation to give us the definitive word as to what transpired. But putting together the best information that we have available to us today our current assessment is that what happened in Benghazi was in fact initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in Cairo.
But hey, the GOP needs points! They don't care if they need to destroy her career. What is the career of one person in return for GOP "points"? She presented the best information she had at the time, which she obviously didn't collect herself, and it was wrong, so the GOP will literally destroy her career. If we let them.

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Seriously. Just call a spade a spade, and tell America you're still investigating.
That's precisely what she said. I already quoted for you:
MS. RICE: Well, let us-- let me tell you the-- the best information we have at present. First of all, there's an FBI investigation which is ongoing. And we look to that investigation to give us the definitive word as to what transpired.
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All she did was present what the security agencies knew at the time.
She very clearly did not if talking points related to AQ were deleted from her answers.

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She did not lie or demonstrate one bit of incompetence.
She may have told a lie without lying herself if she were parroting a lie given to her by the 0bama administration.


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She had no motive one way or another in stating who was responsible.
Hmm, career suicide vs. Hillary's job. No motivation there. Confused


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And yet, the GOP is happy to destroy her career. I do not think this will be a good strategy for the GOP.
I think this will be a fantastic strategy for the GOP and the American people. Mire 0bama's second term in scandal and minimize the damage he can do.
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Seems to me those destroying this woman's reputation are the ones who sent her in front of America to call a terrorist attack a 'spontaneous' reaction to a movie posted on Youtube 5 days after the fact.

Seriously. Just call a spade a spade, and tell America you're still investigating.
Except there is/was evidence in support of those assertions.

According to news reports, they are still uncertain as to the mix of those involved and have no evidence of the attack being preplanned.

Rice did tell everyone they're still investigating.
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I think this will be a fantastic strategy for the GOP and the American people. Mire 0bama's second term in scandal and minimize the damage he can do.
How are they going to do that without a scandal? Invent one and hope people beyond their base fall for it?
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Just another hyper partisan witch hunt.
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That's precisely what she said. I already quoted for you:
MS. RICE: Well, let us-- let me tell you the-- the best information we have at present. First of all, there's an FBI investigation which is ongoing. And we look to that investigation to give us the definitive word as to what transpired.
I agree she should have stopped there. This is a policy mistake, but not hers. She was just a mouthpiece for this.

Just like Obama's UN speech where he mentions the video a few times, then leaves without meeting with any international leaders was a policy mistake and he was just a mouthpiece.
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She may have told a lie without lying herself if she were parroting a lie given to her by the 0bama administration.
You're aware that, at the time, there were demonstrations about this video in several countries.
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You're aware that, at the time, there were demonstrations about this video in several countries.
And according to news reports, there were discussions pertaining to the video amongst the crowd gathered at the consulate in Benghazi.
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You're aware that, at the time, there were demonstrations about this video in several countries.
In how many of those countries did the "protests" involve mortars, heavy machine guns, and artillery?
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In how many of those countries did the "protests" involve mortars, heavy machine guns, and artillery?
She continued to state, in the same interview:
But putting together the best information that we have available to us today our current assessment is that what happened in Benghazi was in fact initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in Cairo, almost a copycat of-- of the demonstrations against our facility in Cairo, which were prompted, of course, by the video. What we think then transpired in Benghazi is that opportunistic extremist elements came to the consulate as this was unfolding. They came with heavy weapons which unfortunately are readily available in post revolutionary Libya. And it escalated into a much more violent episode. Obviously, that's-- that's our best judgment now. We'll await the results of the investigation.
Now, tell me this: What more clear language could she have used, given the information she had at the time? It's crystal-clear that she was saying she was not certain and that they needed to wait for an investigation.
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In how many of those countries did the "protests" involve mortars, heavy machine guns, and artillery?
Assuming that Rice knew that crowd was armed, what about that fact PROVES what she said was wrong?

Right wing demonstrators have been known to engage in armed protest right here in the US.

I'm guessing it's even more prevalent in war torn nations like Libya.
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Now, tell me this: What more clear language could she have used, given the information she had at the time? It's crystal-clear that she was saying she was not certain and that they needed to wait for an investigation.
This isn't really about Susan Rice, it is about 0bama. Given that the administration knew it was a terrorist attack [nbcnews.com], they could have given her the truth and marching orders to tell the truth. Instead they sent her out to sell a fairy tale about "protesters" in flack jackets with heavy weapons who were angry about a YouTube video.

Was she lying or kept in the dark? It doesn't matter. The administration sent her to lie to the American public on 0bama's behalf.

The question is why and I think we all know the answer.
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She continued to state, in the same interview:
But putting together the best information that we have available to us today our current assessment is that what happened in Benghazi was in fact initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in Cairo, almost a copycat of-- of the demonstrations against our facility in Cairo, which were prompted, of course, by the video. What we think then transpired in Benghazi is that opportunistic extremist elements came to the consulate as this was unfolding. They came with heavy weapons which unfortunately are readily available in post revolutionary Libya. And it escalated into a much more violent episode. Obviously, that's-- that's our best judgment now. We'll await the results of the investigation.
Now, tell me this: What more clear language could she have used, given the information she had at the time? It's crystal-clear that she was saying she was not certain and that they needed to wait for an investigation.
Quite frankly, the problem is that she is insinuating that Muslims inclined to protest against those who insult their Prophet are ready and willing to blow up American Embassies if only the heavy weapons are available, as they are in post-war Libya (Gee, who do we thank for that?).

From what I've read, the reality is that this was an organised violent group that committed this act (with apparent ties to Al Qaeda, but that's not as important), and that apparently the head of the CIA was very much aware at the time that it was connected to terrorists. Further, it seems that others believed it was an organized terrorist attack.

It seems they are using a video that led to protests elsewhere as a blanket for everything bad that happened in the region that week, and that's not really the case.

Personally, I hope people get to the bottom of it. If a bunch of scum bags put a woman in front of cameras with misleading info, they should be held accountable.

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This isn't really about Susan Rice, it is about 0bama. Given that the administration knew it was a terrorist attack [nbcnews.com], they could have given her the truth and marching orders to tell the truth. Instead they sent her out to tell a fairy tale about "protesters" in flack jackets with heavy weapons who were angry about a YouTube video.

Was she lying or kept in the dark? It doesn't matter. The administration sent her to lie to the American public on 0bama's behalf.

The question is why and I think we all know the answer.
Which in a way, makes it about her. If she is suppose to be in consideration for a very high up position, shouldn't she be able to handle that information? Or at least be trusted to relay it to America?
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This isn't really about Susan Rice, it is about 0bama. Given that the administration knew it was a terrorist attack [nbcnews.com], they could have given her the truth and marching orders to tell the truth. Instead they sent her out to tell a fairy tale about protesters in flack jackets with heavy weapons who were angry about a YouTube video.

Was she lying or kept in the dark? It doesn't matter. The administration sent her to lie to the American public on 0bama's behalf.
Blithering hogwash. Righties can't even concoct a conspiracy theory that makes a lick of sense. And they think always typing Obama with a zero is somehow clever? If you want a real conspiracy with massively tragic consequences, check out the Iraq war, phony WMD, Valerie Plaime, etc. etc. But of course those conspiracies are nonexistent in the right-wing bubble of the Fox News/Rush Limbaugh bloviators. Boy was it HIGH-larious watching the bubble pop around that Dick Morris Romney landslide.
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Personally, I hope people get to the bottom of it. If a bunch of scum bags put a woman in front of cameras with misleading info, they should be held accountable.
And what do you think the appropriate punishment is for obfuscating damaging information during an election? LMAO

Cause I can't wait to hear you demanding such punishment for Romney and his surrogates....
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