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Gun: .22 Phoenix Arms HP22a semi-auto $105 + shipping

Deusxmachina 12,716 1,081 November 23, 2012 at 12:08 PM in Your Mileage May Vary (YMMV) (3)
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Last Edited by Deusxmachina November 23, 2012 at 12:15 PM
$105 + shipping. Shows as about $15 for me on default, but the fine-print says guns ship USPS, so shipping to me then is about $10.

http://buckshotonline.com/Phoenix...2-BLUE.htm
http://buckshotonline.com/Phoenix...Nickel.htm

The best inexpensive .22 I know of.
LIFETIME WARRANTY (unless they changed it very recently when I wasn't looking)
Semi-auto
Blue or silver.
Comes with one 10-round mag.
20 ounces. Kind of heavy for its size, actually, but helps make it feel like a more expensive gun.
The blue is a pretty tough coating. I assume the silver holds up as well but am not sure.
Let me put it this way: I wish an M&P had as tough of a coating as this thing does.

Couple things:
It has a billion safeties on it. Ok, more like three. You can leave the firing pin safety off all the time, so that's no biggie, but the safety that requires you to have a mag inserted to even rack the slide is annoying. Such a thing is supposedly for safety, but it's actually more unsafe since it's harder to make sure the gun is clear. You can cut the internal tab out for that safety, but it probably voids the warranty.

The above is a minor problem if it's just a range fun gun. Which most .22s are, especially if they're little ones with 3" barrels.

You can't use high-velocity ammo in it. The Phoenix website recommends 1050-1150fps. Junkier ammo is actually good for this since it will have a lower fps than stated on the box, especially for this only having a 3" barrel. (It also comes in a 5" version, and the fps goes up a good bit.) I'd have to look again to be up-to-date, but something like Remington goldens or Thunderbolts tended to have a good bit less fps than stated on the box. ymmv.

If you use high-velocity ammo, you WILL (probably, maybe, possibly) eventually crack the frame. Your friend gave you a box of 50 CCI Stingers free and you want to get rid of them in the HP22a "because there's only 50 of them and 50 couldn't hurt anything"? Don't do it. You have been warned.

If it cracks, it tends to crack at the top of the mag well internally There are pictures online of people just dremeling that part out to stop the crack from spreading. The metal is thin in that spot, and apparently doesn't even do anything.

If you shoot a ton, maybe a different .22 is for you. If you go through a couple 500-round boxes of .22 a year, I expect the HP22a would last many, many years, if not "forever." The main people who have had frame problems used high-velocity ammo.

People have had cracked ones replaced under warranty, though if it happens more than once, that might be considered abuse and you'd be on your own. ymmv.

Personally, I love this little gun.

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I would never recommend this as a carry gun... but cheap plinker!
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I have one of these, its is inexpensive but i love it, shoots great and i took advantage of the warranty last year, they practically sent me a new gun, all new parts and even 2 extra mags, all for free. I also did the safety mod and liked that better. Its a fun plinker gun, i would recommend it
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Quote from BursaliOzer View Post :
I have one of these, its is inexpensive but i love it, shoots great and i took advantage of the warranty last year, they practically sent me a new gun, all new parts and even 2 extra mags, all for free. I also did the safety mod and liked that better. Its a fun plinker gun, i would recommend it
These guns are crap. My buddy bought one and it literally fell apart in our hands while we shot it. He took it back to the gun shop and traded it in.
Good to know that they have some good customer service. That might help with the sales.
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