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Clerical workers, yes clerical workers, at the port of Los Angeles and Long Beach are on strike. I wonder how many Americans would be willing to suffer through a day's worth of paper pushing making this money and benefits?

Berry says the clerical workers have been offered a deal that would be the envy of most Americans: "absolute job security;" a raise that would take average annual pay from $165,000 to $195,000, 11 weeks paid vacation, and a generous pension increase.

http://www.latimes.com/business/m...2793.story

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I'm proud to see American's step up like this....Too many just roll over and let the companies screw them anyway they can....I don't care if they make $6 an hour or 2 million....If you are unhappy with the way a company is treating you, you NEED to step up and say something!
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if there is any truth to this pay and benefits... that is farking absurd. 11 weeks paid vacation???? 165K for an office job not requiring a professional degree? WTF??? and they want a 30k increase in salary....
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"The union claims they have lost about 50 jobs through the attrition that have subsequently been filled in places like Texas and Taiwan."

Hahaha... hysterical. People are either retiring or quitting, and not being replaced (in that specific geographic location). The horror.
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aren't these the same people that caused chaos by striking beside the airport around Thanksgiving? Some local media attacked them because they created mass delays for travelers going to see their families to gain media attention..
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they obviously deserve 12 weeks vacation and 300,000 salary per year. I think they should reitre at 50 also with 90% of higherst year salary pension for life. Pay up you cheap bastards.
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Here's a view from the docks: I actually work in Maritime Shipping and deal with stevedores and clerks every day.

At every port, there are multiple levels of "clerks":
1. Dock Clerk: checks and counts cargo as its being loaded or discharged on the dock or warehouse. Its a mostly outside job, lots of running around and doing paperwork.
2. Clerk in Charge: usually assigned to one or several ships and oversees all Dock Clerks and checks and verifies all the paperwork for every piece of cargo.
3. Office Clerks: they are usually in the offices and deal with invoiving, trucking, dealing with customers, storage, logistics, etc etc.
4. Cargo Planning Clerks: these guys are in charge of planning how and when to load ships, and also arranging when and how cargoes need to be trucked in in order to properly load the ship.

So "clerks" in this case ranges from somebody with a low position checking paperwork, to somebody worth 300k a year because they are in charge of loading 3 ships each day with thousands of containers or figuring out how to load 500 crates of various sizes and weights into a ship to keep it stable during the voyage!

BTW stevedores who work on container ships make bank! Of course, they also work like crazy because these ships are on super-super-super-strict timelines, so only the best workers make it to these ranks in order to avoid very costly ship delays.
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Quote from Ridewithme38 View Post :
I'm proud to see American's step up like this....Too many just roll over and let the companies screw them anyway they can....I don't care if they make $6 an hour or 2 million....If you are unhappy with the way a company is treating you, you NEED to step up and say something!
Hostess workers stepped up also.. When ordered back into arbitration knowing the company had already begun the liquidation process (something ordered by a judge), they still refused to negotiate. There were two options.. take cuts or lose your job.. they chose to lose their job. To quote some of the employees from media "I'd rather look for another job or go on unemployment than take a pay cut". Many of the employees not part of the Baker's Union stated the same thing over and over and over again.. If you don't like your job.. quit. But voluntarily quitting wouldn't gain you unemployment would it? hmm...
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Clerical workers, yes clerical workers, at the port of Los Angeles and Long Beach are on strike. I wonder how many Americans would be willing to suffer through a day's worth of paper pushing making this money and benefits?

Berry says the clerical workers have been offered a deal that would be the envy of most Americans: "absolute job security;" a raise that would take average annual pay from $165,000 to $195,000, 11 weeks paid vacation, and a generous pension increase.

http://www.latimes.com/business/m...2793.story
I'll gladly take the job. Almost 200k and nearly 3 months paid vacation a year sounds like a damn good job.

They better be careful though, they are fast approaching the threshold where they will have to start paying their fair share...
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I'm proud to see American's step up like this....Too many just roll over and let the companies screw them anyway they can....I don't care if they make $6 an hour or 2 million....If you are unhappy with the way a company is treating you, you NEED to step up and say something!
Oh yes that company sure is screwing those poor workers.
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Here's a view from the docks: I actually work in Maritime Shipping and deal with stevedores and clerks every day.

At every port, there are multiple levels of "clerks":
1. Dock Clerk: checks and counts cargo as its being loaded or discharged on the dock or warehouse. Its a mostly outside job, lots of running around and doing paperwork.
2. Clerk in Charge: usually assigned to one or several ships and oversees all Dock Clerks and checks and verifies all the paperwork for every piece of cargo.
3. Office Clerks: they are usually in the offices and deal with invoiving, trucking, dealing with customers, storage, logistics, etc etc.
4. Cargo Planning Clerks: these guys are in charge of planning how and when to load ships, and also arranging when and how cargoes need to be trucked in in order to properly load the ship.

So "clerks" in this case ranges from somebody with a low position checking paperwork, to somebody worth 300k a year because they are in charge of loading 3 ships each day with thousands of containers or figuring out how to load 500 crates of various sizes and weights into a ship to keep it stable during the voyage!

BTW stevedores who work on container ships make bank! Of course, they also work like crazy because these ships are on super-super-super-strict timelines, so only the best workers make it to these ranks in order to avoid very costly ship delays.

I'm sorry but making informed posts have no place in threads like these. They are for projecting what you think a job entails and then declaring the worker overpaid.
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Quote from MISHNAH View Post :
So "clerks" in this case ranges from somebody with a low position checking paperwork, to somebody worth 300k a year because they are in charge of loading 3 ships each day with thousands of containers or figuring out how to load 500 crates of various sizes and weights into a ship to keep it stable during the voyage!
Your facts and real-world examples have no place in The Podium. Cool

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I'm sorry but making informed posts have no place in threads like these. They are for projecting what you think a job entails and then declaring the worker overpaid.
Stole my line! EEK!
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Quote from MISHNAH View Post :
Here's a view from the docks: I actually work in Maritime Shipping and deal with stevedores and clerks every day.

At every port, there are multiple levels of "clerks":
1. Dock Clerk: checks and counts cargo as its being loaded or discharged on the dock or warehouse. Its a mostly outside job, lots of running around and doing paperwork.
2. Clerk in Charge: usually assigned to one or several ships and oversees all Dock Clerks and checks and verifies all the paperwork for every piece of cargo.
3. Office Clerks: they are usually in the offices and deal with invoiving, trucking, dealing with customers, storage, logistics, etc etc.
4. Cargo Planning Clerks: these guys are in charge of planning how and when to load ships, and also arranging when and how cargoes need to be trucked in in order to properly load the ship.

So "clerks" in this case ranges from somebody with a low position checking paperwork, to somebody worth 300k a year because they are in charge of loading 3 ships each day with thousands of containers or figuring out how to load 500 crates of various sizes and weights into a ship to keep it stable during the voyage!

BTW stevedores who work on container ships make bank! Of course, they also work like crazy because these ships are on super-super-super-strict timelines, so only the best workers make it to these ranks in order to avoid very costly ship delays.
Good info.

Seems to have been missed.

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Quote from MISHNAH View Post :
Here's a view from the docks: I actually work in Maritime Shipping and deal with stevedores and clerks every day.

At every port, there are multiple levels of "clerks":
1. Dock Clerk: checks and counts cargo as its being loaded or discharged on the dock or warehouse. Its a mostly outside job, lots of running around and doing paperwork.
2. Clerk in Charge: usually assigned to one or several ships and oversees all Dock Clerks and checks and verifies all the paperwork for every piece of cargo.
3. Office Clerks: they are usually in the offices and deal with invoiving, trucking, dealing with customers, storage, logistics, etc etc.
4. Cargo Planning Clerks: these guys are in charge of planning how and when to load ships, and also arranging when and how cargoes need to be trucked in in order to properly load the ship.

So "clerks" in this case ranges from somebody with a low position checking paperwork, to somebody worth 300k a year because they are in charge of loading 3 ships each day with thousands of containers or figuring out how to load 500 crates of various sizes and weights into a ship to keep it stable during the voyage!

BTW stevedores who work on container ships make bank! Of course, they also work like crazy because these ships are on super-super-super-strict timelines, so only the best workers make it to these ranks in order to avoid very costly ship delays.
can you clarify which level makes what salary please.
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I'm sorry but making informed posts have no place in threads like these. They are for projecting what you think a job entails and then declaring the worker overpaid.
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Stole my line! EEK!
Actually he really didn't give any facts and real world examples pertaining to this.. he just used a similar industry..

but I'd be happy to share their hourly rates. This is the nice thing about union contracts.. They're often posted online..

http://www.ilwu.org/wp-content/up...WU_MOU.pdf

Quote :
ILWU/PMA PACIFIC COAST LONGSHORE AND CLERKS' AGREEMENT
MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING
between
PACIFIC MARITIME ASSOCIATION
(For the Employers)
and
INTERNATIONAL LONGSHORE AND
WAREHOUSE UNION
(For and on behalf of itself and each of its longshore locals and clerk locals
in California, Oregon and Washington)



Effective 8:00 a.m., June 30, 2012
From Increase To
Basic Longshore $33.68 $1.00 $34.68
Skill I $36.08 $1.00 $37.08
Skill II $38.35 $1.00 $39.35
Skill III $39.48 $1.00 $40.48
Basic Clerk $33.68 $1.00 $34.68
Clerk Supervisor $36.08 $1.00 $37.08
Kitchen/Tower/Computer Clerk $38.35 $1.00 $39.35
Chief Supervisor & Supercargo $39.48 $1.00 $40.48
I don't feel like going through this.. but it looks like there's an enormous different based on shifts and hours of experience. if you go 2nd shift it looks like a boost of 35% or so.. and 3rd shift is a 10% boost from 2nd shift.
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