Had hoped amazon would price match since I just bought it from there at $680 a couple of days ago and still waiting for it... But now not only TD price is up, Amazon is OOS and price is up from third-party retailers. Oh, well, in my book this is a steal even at $680, or so I'll keep telling myself
On the upgrade from 809, it kind of depends what your needs are but I did see comments from people who upgraded from 809 to 818 and said it was night and day. If you're an enthusiast with good speakers, you'll probably want to go 818. Otherwise, 809 is a great one as well. They'll probably both have some reliability concerns, though if I recall 809 has some known HDMI issues that hopefully 818 has resolved.
There is no doubt Onkyo gives you the most bang for your buck but they do tend to break down quite often. So any savings up front will be lost when you have to the replace the unit a year or two later. Marantz simply put is the more reliable brand.
I've owned several of both brands... I personally have not found this to be accurate at all.
Onkyo sells multiple times more units than Marantz, so the Onkyo community is MUCH larger than Marantz -- thus you "see" more complaints/issues on the internet simply due to the high number of buyers.
I have not seen, and don't think, there is any evidence the failure rate % is any higher with Onkyo than any other competitor. If there is please provide the data. If not, it would be nice if people stopped spreading FUD.
This is a great deal... I bought one to replace the legendary TX-SR805 (if anyone wants to buy it let me know), and suggest anyone willing to spend $650-800 buy the NR818 before the price goes back up.
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