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Feinstein's proposed gun ban

BigBananaMess 2,656 476 December 27, 2012 at 09:40 AM
http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/p...lt-weapons

Among the highlights of Feinstein's :oldhag: proposed bill:
  • ban rifles, handguns, shotguns with one 'military characteristic' Confused
  • ban >10 round magazines
  • grandfathered pre-ban weapons must be registered as NFA items with the owners photographed and fingerprinted (*cough* un-Constitutional *cough*)
  • banning thumbhole stocks Roll Eyes (Sarcastic) :pointless:

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Can we get that quote from Fienstein on how she understands the desire to be armed to protect ones self?
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Question for the gun nuts: If someone decides to go in a school, even one where all the teachers are armed, and shoot up school how will armed teachers stop him from achieving his aims?

You can't stop what you don't see coming.
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Can we get that quote from Fienstein on how she understands the desire to be armed to protect ones self?



Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel safe.

– Sen. Dianne Feinstein, Associated Press, Nov. 18, 1993





The national guard fulfills the militia mentioned in the 2nd amendment. Citizens no longer need to protect the states or themselves.

–Sen. Diane Feinstein, Democrat





If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them: "Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in," I would have done it. I *could not* do that. The votes weren't here.

–U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), CBS-TV's "60 Minutes," 2/5/95
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Question for the gun nuts (Please stop): If someone decides to go in a school, even one where all the teachers are armed, and shoot up school how will armed teachers stop him from achieving his aims?

You can't stop what you don't see coming.
The same way that the AWB in CT stopped the shooter from obtaining weapons. At least with the possibility of armed teachers you have knowledge that there may be protection should someone evil obtain firearms.
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Question for the gun nuts: If someone decides to go in a school, even one where all the teachers are armed, and shoot up school how will armed teachers stop him from achieving his aims?
Shhh...you're destroying the cowboy mythos surrounding a large gun collection. Don't mention the armed guard at Columbine either.
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Shhh...you're destroying the cowboy mythos surrounding a large gun collection. Don't mention the armed guard at Columbine either.
You mean the armed guard that arrived after the shootings had started and subsequently engaged Harris while protecting students that were escaping? Yeah, totally didn't do anything. Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)

http://www.nationalreview.com/cor...el-foster#
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That's right, but it isn't like the deputy was sitting around eating doughnuts during the Columbine massacre. He traded fire (that is, he drew fire) with Harris for an extended period of time, during which Harris's gun jammed. The deputy and the backup he immediately called for exchanged fire with the shooters a second time and helped begin the evacuation of students, all before the SWAT teams and the rest of the cavalry arrived, and before Harris and Klebold killed themselves in the library. Harris and Klebold had an assault plan — a sloppy plan, but a plan nonetheless. They had dozens of IEDs, some of which detonated, others of which did not. And there were two of them. In this highly chaotic tactical environment, the deputy acted both bravely and prudently, and who knows how many lives he saved by engaging Harris.
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2000/...S_TEXT.htm
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Officer Exchanges Gunfire

Gardner, seeing Harris working with his gun, leaned over the top of the car and fired four shots. He was 60 yards from the gunman. Harris spun hard to the right and Gardner momentarily thought he had hit him. Seconds later, Harris began shooting again at the deputy.
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Injured Students Given Cover

Taborsky drove his patrol car in front of the downed student, providing him with cover from any additional gunfire. Smoker walked alongside the car.

He was trying to see where the shots had come from as numerous students took cover behind the patrol car. In short, hysterical breaths, their stories intermingled. Gunmen were shooting inside the school with UZIs or shotguns. They were throwing hand-grenades. There were two gunmen. They were dressed in black. One was younger and "kind of thin," maybe high school age. He was wearing a black trench coat and had his hat on backwards. The second one was taller and a little older but also wearing a black trench coat. The gunmen were randomly shooting anyone they confronted.

Because of the tremendous amount of radio traffic, Smoker was having difficulty advising dispatch of the condition of the students and the information they had just relayed about what was happening inside the school.

His first priority was to get those students who had sought refuge behind the patrol car to a safer location. Hiding behind his car, they were still too close to the scene. Their hysteria was causing more confusion. Some were bleeding. Taborsky and Smoker told the boys to take their shirts off and use them to help stop some of the bleeding of the wounded. They told them to try to help each other while the deputies figured out how to get them to safety.

Looking back at the concrete tool shed near the baseball fields, Smoker could see other deputies and Denver police arriving on scene. They devised a plan to shuttle the students away from the school grounds, using their patrol cars as protection for them.

Searle evacuated groups of students out of the area, either to officers from the Denver Police Department who took them from his car or directly to Caley and Yukon streets for emergency medical assistance. Smoker and Taborsky stayed in their positions to provide cover for the students until they could be evacuated.

BTW, the Columbine shooters had weapons that were illegal under the 1994 AWB.
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Let's please keep off topic discussion of guarding schools in the other thread on that topic
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Let's please keep off topic discussion of guarding schools in the other thread on that topic
Can we discuss whether Feinstein looks like a man, though?
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You mean the armed guard that arrived after the shootings had started and subsequently engaged Harris while protecting students that were escaping? Yeah, totally didn't do anything. Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)

http://www.nationalreview.com/cor...el-foster#


http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2000/...S_TEXT.htm
BTW, the Columbine shooters had weapons that were illegal under the 1994 AWB.
You and your pesky facts. The lack of a response means your point hit home.
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Can we discuss whether Feinstein looks like a man, though?
There is nothing to discuss. She does.
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Can anyone explain to me how his would be even slightly effective if passed....given there are sooooooooo many guns that are legally (and illegally for that matter) owned in states that have never required registration?

I understand it is likely to change drastically, I'm just curious of how this would "work" at all.
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The same way that the AWB in CT stopped the shooter from obtaining weapons. At least with the possibility of armed teachers you have knowledge that there may be protection should someone evil obtain firearms.
You can't protect what is already dead. You having a gun isn't going to stop someone from blasting away unsuspecting victims, unless Gun owners have some sort of precognition.
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Shhh...you're destroying the cowboy mythos surrounding a large gun collection. Don't mention the armed guard at Columbine either.
Address Paperboys' response...

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You can't protect what is already dead. You having a gun isn't going to stop someone from blasting away unsuspecting victims, unless Gun owners have some sort of precognition.
You might be able to stop more lives from being lost.
But you already know that...
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You can't protect what is already dead.
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You having a gun isn't going to stop someone from blasting away unsuspecting victims, unless Gun owners have some sort of precognition.
Speculation. Certainly one can tell who may be an unsuspecting victim if the gunman is pointing a firearm at them. And certainly that gunman would be stopped if he was shot before he was able to pull the trigger. Now, you aren't going to be able to stop them before anyone gets shot, however, nothing proposed will do that as well. At least with the possibility another person is armed, the shooter may be stopped sooner.
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actually I found some info on her stating she did own handgun(s) and a concealed weapons permit..

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-bri...it-anymore

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Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) no longer has a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

Feinstein, who has taken the lead on efforts to renew a federal assault weapons ban, acknowledged during a hearing in 1995 of previously having a concealed weapon permit.

At the time, she said she needed it for security, but she has since dropped the permit.

"The senator does not have a concealed weapon permit," Feinstein spokesman Tom Mentzer said in an email to The Hill on Thursday.

In 1995 a hearing on terrorism after the Oklahoma City bombing, Feinstein recounted how, in the 1970s, she was the target of the New World Liberation Front which first attempted to blow up her home. After the bomb failed to detonate, Feinstein explained, she decided to arm herself.

"Later the same group shot out all the windows of my home and I know the sense of helplessness that people feel. I know the urge to arm yourself, because that's what I did. I was trained in firearms," Feinstein said in the 1995 hearing.

"When I walked to the hospital when my husband was sick, I carried a concealed weapon," she said. "I made the determination that if somebody was going to try to take me out I was going to take them with me. Now having said all of that, that was a period of time ago and I've watched through these 20 years as terrorism has increased both on the far extremist left and the far extremist right in this country."
Feinstein got rid of the permit once the New World Liberation Front was no longer a threat to her.
I wonder how she felt about gun regulation when she felt her life was in danger vs.now (feeling very secure and what 100yrs old?)

also that is probably one of the dumbest statements I've heard.. "If someone's going to try and take me out I was going to take them with me"????? Probably the most purposeless notion one could imagine..
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