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What are the common sense gun laws, what should be changed?

onscreen 1,661 268 December 30, 2012 at 09:06 AM
In a number of threads people have asked for "common sense gun laws". In reality I can't think of ANY law abiding person who wouldn't want common sense gun laws. What is less clear is what is common sense. Here we seem to have a very large divide.

Some will view "common sense" as allowing the carrying of concealed weapons by permit holders in far more places than they are currently allowed.

Some will argue for more back ground checks.

Some will argue for banning of some types of weapons.

Some will argue for including or excluding more people from the rolls of who is allowed to carry.

My question is what changes should we make? I'm thinking in terms of changes that would be both practical and legal under the current understanding of the 2nd A but I'm open for a wider discussion. I would encourage people to consider the degree to which any proposal is practical. I think we can all agree that a proposal to take away all guns is unworkable since many people would likely refuse to comply. A law demanding mandatory gun training and ownership for all would be equally unworkable.

If you are for changing for example where a permit holder can carry I would be interested in knowing why. If you are for excluding a type of arm again I would be interested in knowing why. If you are going to say "military guns" then what is the definition of a military gun?

One final thing, I don't want to turn this into a "the other side is stupid" battle. We have plenty of those. I would instead like this to try to actually be an exchange of views.

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It appears the "assault weapon" provision of the new gun laws are off the table.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/na...eed/61773/
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It appears the "assault weapon" provision of the new gun laws are off the table.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/na...eed/61773/
Don't speak too soon Smilie

http://news.yahoo.com/ap-sources-...itics.html

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WASHINGTON (AP) — House Democrats will unveil 15 proposals for curbing gun violence that resemble President Barack Obama's plan and will include a call for banning assault weapons, people familiar with the package said Wednesday.

The Democrats' recommendations will also include barring high-capacity magazines carrying more than 10 rounds of ammunition, requiring background checks for all gun sales and prohibiting gun trafficking, all of which Obama proposed last month.

The proposals, to be released Thursday by top House Democrats, were described by people who requested anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the plan publicly. They represent the initial House Democratic response to the horrific Dec. 14 shooting of 20 first-graders and six adults at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.
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This will be interesting. Removing the AWB and perhaps the magazine limits and focusing just on the back ground checks is almost certain to result in a bill that will pass. Inclusion of things like the AWB will likely result in the bill not passing. The question is, will the gun control lobby push to include the AWB because they want all or nothing? Will the pro-gun side keep it in any bill because they expect any bill that includes AWB to fail? In this case it would be a poison pill in the bill. Interesting
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Magazine limits are also totally useless in the modern era. As easy as it is to stamp one out with the right tools, reliable 3D printing a disposable mag is basically already here.

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Limiting magazines... that will stop them. The MILLIONS of "high capacity magazines" out there in the US right now and you guys think by creating a law, people will magically stop carrying more than they are supposed to? I forgot criminals that want to kill people follow laws and bans. Magazines dont go bad...you can ban them and they will be her forever.

Thank God we have traffic laws...we all no nobody will break those. More laws are the answers
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Apparently common sense guns laws don't work. Ain't that right Joe?

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