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Need Desktop with 32GB Ram - Any Suggestions?

onmillertime 157 414 January 8, 2013 at 04:42 PM
Hubby needs a desktop with 32GB of ram for large scale GNS3 simulations. We have been pricing them out and it seems to be about $1700 to build and you can't even buy one pre-made.

Anyone have suggestions on how we can get one cheaper?

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Hubby needs a desktop with 32GB of ram for large scale GNS3 simulations. We have been pricing them out and it seems to be about $1700 to build and you can't even buy one pre-made.

Anyone have suggestions on how we can get one cheaper?
well 4x8 gigs would cost you about $120 - $150 over the price of a computer (assuming you got the minimum required)... So you can get say a dell outlet for $700 and add in ram.


Though I would just build it my self so you can put in the parts you want/need.
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A lot of these:
http://www.dell.com/us/dfb/p/precision-desktops

come stock with 8-64gb of ram.
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Hubby needs a desktop with 32GB of ram for large scale GNS3 simulations. We have been pricing them out and it seems to be about $1700 to build and you can't even buy one pre-made.

Anyone have suggestions on how we can get one cheaper?
if you look at microcenter/egg:
$100 top of the line case
$80 to $150 about dozen make/models of 1155 mbos that can handle 32 GB $150 can handle 64)
$150 to $230 i5 or i7 processor (less with bundled mobo prices you see on regularly)
$100 nice case
$25 to $150 video card (although you dont need one ofr lots of uses with 4000 on board i5/i7and hdmi out on mobos
OS
Ram

So it is more like $800 self build, $1000 prebuilt.

the big variable is not ram capacity, ram cost, or processor. It is your nics. are you excluding that in your costs or are looking at throwing in a couple of 4ports or more ports? .
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if you look at microcenter/egg:
$100 top of the line case
$80 to $150 about dozen make/models of 1155 mbos that can handle 32 GB $150 can handle 64)
$150 to $230 i5 or i7 processor (less with bundled mobo prices you see on regularly)
$100 nice case
$25 to $150 video card (although you dont need one ofr lots of uses with 4000 on board i5/i7and hdmi out on mobos
OS
Ram

So it is more like $800 self build, $1000 prebuilt.

the big variable is not ram capacity, ram cost, or processor. It is your nics. are you excluding that in your costs or are looking at throwing in a couple of 4ports or more ports? .
So people need two cases? bounce
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Dell, HP and Lenovo all have outlets where you should be able to pick up a PC/workstation that can do 32GB of memory for less than $1700. The benefit of going this route over building it yourself is you'll get a warranty and support for the whole system directly from the manufacturer. Plus, the business support tends to be better.
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It sounds like you need to do some more research on your own. Almost every major manufacturer offers at least one PC with 32gb of ram. That being said major manufacturers love to overcharge for ram so it isn't going to be cheap.
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So people need two cases? bounce
Nope didn't say that. my numbers add up to a single machine if you estimate OS (and I would use linux but op may want win8 or even dual boot (so that is $0 to $100), hdd is $50 to whatever) and most important and unknown variable is nic cards since. for those simulations people sometimes use pairs of 4 port nics,
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Easy! Go to the Dell Outlet & snag an Optiplex 9010 [dell.com] - you can get one for under $600 with an i5.

Go to Crucial.com & get two 16GB kits [crucial.com] for $168. You can get this cheaper elsewhere, but I happen to like Crucial.

That'll get you a professional level machine with three years of on-site warranty AND Windows 7 Professional for ~ $800. Remember that you MUST have Windows Pro or Ultimate to use more than 16GB. Assuming it's a Windows machine, obviously.
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Quote from aero View Post :
if you look at microcenter/egg:
$100 top of the line case
$80 to $150 about dozen make/models of 1155 mbos that can handle 32 GB $150 can handle 64)
$150 to $230 i5 or i7 processor (less with bundled mobo prices you see on regularly)
$100 nice case
$25 to $150 video card (although you dont need one ofr lots of uses with 4000 on board i5/i7and hdmi out on mobos
OS
Ram

So it is more like $800 self build, $1000 prebuilt.

the big variable is not ram capacity, ram cost, or processor. It is your nics. are you excluding that in your costs or are looking at throwing in a couple of 4ports or more ports? .
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Nope didn't say that. my numbers add up to a single machine if you estimate OS (and I would use linux but op may want win8 or even dual boot (so that is $0 to $100), hdd is $50 to whatever) and most important and unknown variable is nic cards since. for those simulations people sometimes use pairs of 4 port nics,
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FYI, make sure the OS can support 32gb.

Windows 7 home premium max is 16, pro is 192.
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Hubby needs a desktop with 32GB of ram for large scale GNS3 simulations. We have been pricing them out and it seems to be about $1700 to build and you can't even buy one pre-made.

Anyone have suggestions on how we can get one cheaper?
Have hubby build his own computer... if he is running large-scale GNS3 he should be capable.

Why pay $1700 when he can build one in an hour for much less?

I got 16GB of ram for about $35 and yes use the correct OS version I can add two more and get to 32 easy.

$70 ram 32 GB
$200 CPU
$100 MB
$70 PSU
$60 Case
$200 Monitor

Way less than $1000 that's assuming you want all new... reuse what he already has would be much less.
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No clue where OP is getting $1700 for a DIY rig. Are you specifying a $1000 i7 processor or something?

EDIT: It also bears asking if hubby has done a real analysis on his memory usage. If you can get away with 16GBs then no reason to go with 32GBs.
http://www.gns3.net/gns3-memory-cpu-usage/
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He works for govt so he was pricing through them to get the discount. Came home with that crazy price and I laughed. He can build one and that price was just the parts but I think their pricing is inflated (even with the discount).

I was just curious what you guys thought because I do want to spend as little as possible for this and was wondering what others were doing - building vs. buying pre-made.

He does need the 32 (possibly more so we would need to scale) because he is simulating large networks and each one requires 512k. I am no expert on this but have noticed it seems trickier to get a pre-made system when you get over 16.

NOTE: we are looking for i7 Quad, Windows 7 pro, 64 bit, 32GB+, 500GB hd.

I am REALLY appreciating all of the advice you have definitely help steer me in directions I hadn't been looking. Didn't think about refurbished that might work well for this.
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You might max to 48gb ram on a consumer mother board (triple channel memory = 6 slots) 6 slots x 8gb sticks = 48gb ram.

To get more than that you will need a dual socket motherboard (2 physical processors) each with their own memory banks.

Or you could move to a server board which would give more memory banks with options for single and dual sockets.

Memory banks in a server board


vs memory banks on a consumer board
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