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The Senate -- controlled by a coalition of Republicans and breakaway Democrats – passed Cuomo's bill by a wide margin after 11 p.m. Monday.

Cuomo praised the Senate for "coming together in a bipartisan, collaborative manner to meet the challenges that face our state and our nation, as we have seen far too many senseless acts of gun violence."

The legislation, known as the NY SAFE Act, includes a ban on magazines that hold more than seven rounds and requires universal background checks for all gun sales, regardless if they are private, person-to-person sales.

It also includes stricter penalties for firearm-related crimes, including a "Webster provision," a life-without-parole prison sentence for anyone who murders a first responder. The provision is named after the Monroe County town where a pair of firefighters were shot and killed on Christmas Eve.

The assault-weapons and magazine bans would take effect as soon the bill is passed and signed by Cuomo.

The Senate voted on the bill less than three hours after it was formally introduced by Cuomo and released to the public. Cuomo waived a mandatory three-day aging period for the bill so the Legislature could vote immediately, a practice often criticized by good-government groups.
Now they made it illegal to own a clip that hold more than 7 rounds. I'm curious.. because I don't even own anything w/ a 7 round clip or less.. Actually I didn't even know they make them that small. But are they not making it illegal to own things that you already legally purchased? What if you own a gun shop, what do you do with thousands of clips that most likely all hold more than 7 rounds (probably 9 or more)?

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New York has taken an excellent first step. Hunters will still be able to hunt. Sportsmen will still be able to shoot. Hopefully other states will follow suit.
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New York has taken an excellent first step. Hunters will still be able to hunt. Sportsmen will still be able to shoot. Hopefully other states will follow suit.
I'm hoping that NY will expand the NY SAFE program into criminal penalties for news outlets publishing the name or image of mass murderers. I would also like to see warrantless searches for dorky, loser-ish adolescent white males. These two actions would save far more lives than the gun ban. And if it saves just one live it is worth it. [cbsnews.com]
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I would love to hear how any of these new laws will actually save any lives. It's clear they will harm legal gun owners. Howe will they protect anyone?
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NYS effing blows... High taxes to support social welfare scumbags (I'm not against social programs), and legislation/rules that try to limit personal freedoms every chance they get...
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New York has taken an excellent first step. Hunters will still be able to hunt. Sportsmen will still be able to shoot. Hopefully other states will follow suit.
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I'm hoping that NY will expand the NY SAFE program into criminal penalties for news outlets publishing the name or image of mass murderers. I would also like to see warrantless searches for dorky, loser-ish adolescent white males. These two actions would save far more lives than the gun ban. And if it saves just one live it is worth it. [cbsnews.com]
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New York has taken an excellent first step. Hunters will still be able to hunt. Sportsmen will still be able to shoot. Hopefully other states will follow suit.
Another historical revisionist trying to reframe the debate into a hunting issue. Please remind us why the 2nd amendment was ratified in the constitution.
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If one supports gun bans, I think 7 is a great number to choose, and the reason is simple. With a limit of 10, that doesn't effect too much, since just about every gun has a 10 round mag available.

Almost no gun manufactures make 7 round magazines. I wonder if the New york market is big enough to for a company to make 7 round mags. If nobody makes 7 round mags, then people are forced to buy revolvers, which is what gun grabbers want.

The problem with this law, is NY will almost certainly get sued by the SAF, and I assume they will loose. It just sucks that under this law, New Yorkers have to get rid of any mags over 10 rounds within one year. Any lawsuit will take over 1 year to settle, so by than law abiding citizens will probably have sold their hicapicaty mags, and have trouble getting them back if the law is thrown out.
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I really hope the .454 Casull takes off in NY.
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If one supports gun bans, I think 7 is a great number to choose, and the reason is simple. With a limit of 10, that doesn't effect too much, since just about every gun has a 10 round mag available.

Almost no gun manufactures make 7 round magazines. I wonder if the New york market is big enough to for a company to make 7 round mags. If nobody makes 7 round mags, then people are forced to buy revolvers, which is what gun grabbers want.

The problem with this law, is NY will almost certainly get sued by the SAF, and I assume they will loose. It just sucks that under this law, New Yorkers have to get rid of any mags over 10 rounds within one year. Any lawsuit will take over 1 year to settle, so by than law abiding citizens will probably have sold their hicapicaty mags, and have trouble getting them back if the law is thrown out.
have you not heard of injunctions?

At any rate please tell us why revolvers are preferred by pro gun ban people.

lastly i wonder if anyone would chide this poster for the use of ''gun grabber".
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I propose that New York governor Andrew Cuomo and former New York Senator Hillary Clinton be protected only by the weapons they allow for the people to protect themselves.
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I really hope the .454 Casull takes off in NY.
I really think there is a case to be made that this limit is age and gender discrimination.

For some of us, if you take away access to 16 rounds of 9mm, we'll just use 8 rounds of .45. Take away 8 rounds and we might go to six of .50 GI or 500 S&W mag (ouch!) or other large caliber round. To get similar power in a smaller number of rounds.

However, that isn't an option for a lot of people - mostly female or older people.

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Another historical revisionist trying to reframe the debate into a hunting issue. Please remind us why the 2nd amendment was ratified in the constitution.
There's no affirmative right to large ammo clips and assault weapons in the Constitution. No right to stinger missiles either. You'll just have to make due with a lousy seven shots. But why not keep an extra mag under the coffee table just in case?
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The problem with this law, is NY will almost certainly get sued by the SAF, and I assume they will loose. It just sucks that under this law, New Yorkers have to get rid of any mags over 10 rounds within one year. Any lawsuit will take over 1 year to settle, so by than law abiding citizens will probably have sold their hicapicaty mags, and have trouble getting them back if the law is thrown out.
Wait, you're saying people are going to sell their weapons?

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There's no affirmative right to large ammo clips and assault weapons in the Constitution. No right to stinger missiles either. You'll just have to make due with a lousy seven shots. But why not keep an extra mag under the coffee table just in case?
There's no right to keep and bear arms in the constitution? Are you for real?
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New York has taken an excellent first step. Hunters will still be able to hunt. Sportsmen will still be able to shoot. Hopefully other states will follow suit.
interesting point.. b/c I'm not even aware of a magazine that small for say a 22 caliper rile (aka small game/vermin etc..).

I NY decides to outlaw products that were bought legally by their residents. I hope they're willing to compensate them for the value, if they decide to turn their now illegal magazines in.
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I really think there is a case to be made that this limit is age and gender discrimination.

For some of us, if you take away access to 16 rounds of 9mm, we'll just use 8 rounds of .45. Take away 8 rounds and we might go to six of .50 GI or 500 S&W mag (ouch!) or other large caliber round. To get similar power in a smaller number of rounds.

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I'm sure that's the next limit on the agenda.. limit the total amount of powder or lead that can reside in a magazine.
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