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Same-sex military couples to receive new benefits.

MsGal 18,080 38,477 February 11, 2013 at 02:45 PM
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My reason for posting is not should they receive benefits, I'm just curious if anyone knows how long the same-sex couple has to be together before they can apply? My husband is military (24 years), and was told by his command that benefits would be extended to those couples that had been together for as little as 6 months. Huh

We're curious because we know several military guys that live with their girlfriends. One couple even has a child together but are not married. They have been together for years.

Anyhow, extending benefits to same sex couples if fine but how are they going to argue against benefits for couples that are not of the same sex? It just doesn't seem fair to say "okay, you've been together for 6 months and we're gonna give you housing and privileges, but you over there that have been together for years, nope, not gonna offer you squat."

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Do you REALLY think life is all peaches and cream (no pun intended) for men who do not have sex with other men? How about sweating it out because your GF is late? How about wanting to do the perky new girl eight ways to Tuesday but knowing you would get fired if found out? How about wanting to plough the MILFy single mom on your kids play dates but knowing the government would take your kids and money if you did? How about having a meeting with the Senior VP and missing all the content because you can only think about her dressed in a leather corset giving you a good spanking?

Life is hard. Deal.
Point missed. And i'm not suprised. No one belittled the situation where a guy is sweating an unwanted pregnancy. Nor did i say what these kids experience was any better or worse than the serious things that affect others. It is statements like:

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Sexual orientation is a made up concept proffered by those who want to pretend it is an immutable trait so they can scream "discrimination."
that make you look like an immature mouthbreathing goon who has no idea what a lot of these kids go through. And considering you decided to start with serious situations, like a girlfriend being late, and moving on to wanting to bang your SVP makes you look even more childish. We all know life is hard, but i object to certain pricks who either knowingly get off on making it worse for others or conciously don't give a shit while mocking them.
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that make you look like an immature mouthbreathing goon who has no idea what a lot of these kids go through.
Are you talking about the kids in the google chrome commercial?

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And considering you decided to start with serious situations, like a girlfriend being late, and moving on to wanting to bang your SVP makes you look even more childish.
hmm, comprehend what you are reading much?

A) I didn't say it was me. Just a generic example.

B) The example to bang the new girl and the MILF. And just wanted a good spanking from the SVP. Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)
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If a man who has sex with other men, that man is by definition a homosexual. That is reality.
Only if you want to be disingenuous and ignore the fact that terms have more than one meaning.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/di...homosexual
1 : of, relating to, or characterized by a tendency to direct sexual desire toward another of the same sex
2
: of, relating to, or involving sexual intercourse between persons of the same sex

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality
Homosexuality is romantic attraction, sexual attraction, or sexual activity between members of the same sex or gender. As an orientation, homosexuality refers to "an enduring pattern of or disposition to experience sexual, affectionate, or romantic attractions" primarily or exclusively to people of the same sex. "It also refers to an individual's sense of personal and social identity based on those attractions, behaviors expressing them, and membership in a community of others who share them."[1][2]


To try to make the case that someone that has performed a homosexual act either under duress or in response to some sort of high value reward but does not have the actual desire to be with members of the same sex, merely demonstrates your willingness to lie in order to support your attacks against gays.

We have a poster here that routinely claims that animals like dolphins or bonobos that engage in homosexual acts are not in fact gay but are instead acting out dominance and other social behavior. It seems to me you homophobes ought to get together so you don't conflict with each other on simple things like definition of terms.
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Your argument merely further proves my point.

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http://www.merriam-webster.com/di...homosexual
1 : of, relating to, or characterized by a tendency to direct sexual desire toward another of the same sex
2
: of, relating to, or involving sexual intercourse between persons of the same sex

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality
Homosexuality is romantic attraction, sexual attraction, or sexual activity between members of the same sex or gender. As an orientation, homosexuality refers to "an enduring pattern of or disposition to experience sexual, affectionate, or romantic attractions" primarily or exclusively to people of the same sex.
Emphasis added. Tendency. Pattern. Primarily. So a tendency or a pattern creates immutable identity? If ii flip a coin and get heads four times in a row, by your logic I have a one sided coin. If I roll snake eyes twice in a row, all sides of the die are one.

Your argument simply provides additional support for my assertion that Human sexual attraction is not immutable identity, but a real time calculation, performed subconsciously, and with results varying based on the input. And, of course, the results of that calculation may be influenced by changing the input via incentives and disincentives.
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It seems to me you homophobes ought to get together so you don't conflict with each other on simple things like definition of terms.
Do you think it adds or detracts from the quality of the discussion to use the term homophobes to refer to those who assert Human homosexual behaviour is a choice?
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Human sexual attraction is not immutable identity, but a real time calculation, performed subconsciously, and with results varying based on the input..
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Do you think it adds or detracts from the quality of the discussion to use the term homophobes to refer to those who assert Human homosexual behaviour is a choice?
I think anyone that asserts processes occurring in the unconscious mind are a choice are either ignorant or dishonest.
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