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Can God and Modern Science Co-exist?

Dude111 948 164 March 8, 2013 at 06:18 AM
An interesting interview on the matter

http://www.actionbioscience.org/e...iller.html


Whats your opinions guys?

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Stephen Hawking did an interesting show on this very topic a few years ago. His conclusion was since we now know how the universe works and can explain it using science rather than the work of "god" or "gods" then it is extremely difficult for them to co-exist. He came just short of stating "god" does not exist. I think once we have the technology to create our own universes then that should put the nail in the coffin....or do we call ourselves "gods" lol.
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I think once we have the technology to create our own universes...
good luck with that.
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Stephen Hawking did an interesting show on this very topic a few years ago. His conclusion was since we now know how the universe works and can explain it using science rather than the work of "god" or "gods" then it is extremely difficult for them to co-exist. He came just short of stating "god" does not exist. I think once we have the technology to create our own universes then that should put the nail in the coffin....or do we call ourselves "gods" lol.
We can create computerized scenarios where there's basic AI existing.
That's arguably a universe created using human hands.
We also have the capacity to create micro black holes which in some theories portray a black hole as being the birth to an additional universe inside the black hole itself.
There's theories in the physics community discussing whether or not we're existing in a simulated reality right now.
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We can explain almost everything -- at least in a gross sense -- in the universe. So we don't need deities to explain how things are happening: people getting sick, planets being formed, babies being born, etc. You can always say that a deity invented those processes, of course.

However, we can only hypothesize where the universe came from. So it boils down to do you believe that a deity created the universe and the laws/constants that keep it together or do you believe it sprung about randomly (and perhaps, are there other universes?).

IOW, yes, they can coexist. However, many people incorrectly assume that a supernatural explanation is the only one that exists for natural phenomena that science can easily explain.

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We can create computerized scenarios where there's basic AI existing.
That's arguably a universe created using human hands.
We also have the capacity to create micro black holes which in some theories portray a black hole as being the birth to an additional universe inside the black hole itself.
There's theories in the physics community discussing whether or not we're existing in a simulated reality right now.
or a hologram [discovermagazine.com]
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Yes certainly. Although many will resist admitting it, evolution cannot explain everything - there is a leap of faith (e.g. something just happened or had to happen with no explanation as to why or how) involved somewhere along the chain. Also, although they are delving deeper, there is no grand explanation (with backing) for many aspects of the universe.

Lastly, the existence of a deity cannot be disproved.
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if you want, you can just say god is the answer to the metaphysical "why" behind everything.
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I think once we have the technology to create our own universes
we already have the technology, in a manner of speaking:

http://www.technologyreview.com/v...imulation/

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...physicists have only managed to simulate tiny corners of the cosmos just a few femtometers across. (A femtometer is 10^-15 metres.)

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It's not hard to imagine that Moore's Law-type progress will allow physicists to simulate significantly larger regions of space.

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It's this kind of thinking that forces physicists to consider the possibility that our entire cosmos could be running on a vastly powerful computer.
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This is a trick question. The question assumes that God exists. laugh out loud
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Since the existence of a god cannot be disproved using science, the belief in a god is compatible with modern science.

I'm not going to go around trying to prove to people there is no god/are no gods. It's fruitless. If someone wants to believe there is a magical being pulling the strings of the universe, that's fine. However, I think living your life based on the fallible translation by men of special insight granted to a few people from this supposed being is a horrible idea.

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Since the existence of a god cannot be disproved using science, the belief in a god is compatible with modern science.

I'm not going to go around trying to prove to people there is no god/are no gods. It's fruitless. If someone wants to believe there is a magical being pulling the strings of the universe, that's fine. However, I think living your life based on the fallible translation by men of special insight granted to a few people from this supposed being is a horrible idea.
So you don't believe in string theory?

Tsk tsk

laugh out loud

ETA: kidding aside, your first sentence is brilliant. One that I had not heard before. Thank you.
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Since the existence of a god cannot be disproved using science, the belief in a god is compatible with modern science.

I'm not going to go around trying to prove to people there is no god/are no gods. It's fruitless. If someone wants to believe there is a magical being pulling the strings of the universe, that's fine. However, I think living your life based on the fallible translation by men of special insight granted to a few people from this supposed being is a horrible idea.
Precisely.
How can man properly perceive and convey the message of a deity and how could an infallible deity conclude that such a process would be the best method to deploy the divine message is quite a confusing dilemma for me.
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So you don't believe in string theory?

Tsk tsk

laugh out loud

ETA: kidding aside, your first sentence is brilliant. One that I had not heard before. Thank you.
The strings thing was intentional Wink
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It's not clear to me, just how many people skipped 6th grade science class?
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It's not clear to me, just how many people skipped 6th grade science class?
42 I'm pretty sure.
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