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Can God and Modern Science Co-exist?

Dude111 955 164 March 8, 2013 at 06:18 AM
An interesting interview on the matter

http://www.actionbioscience.org/e...iller.html


Whats your opinions guys?

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It's not clear to me, just how many people skipped 6th grade science class?
Such a comedian... Rofl2

Was that the class where they tried to shove the "you can't believe in God, we want you to believe in our unproven theories" philosophy down the kids' throats?
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Such a comedian... Rofl2

Was that the class where they tried to shove the "you can't believe in God, we want you to believe in our unproven theories" philosophy down the kids' throats?
Terrible attitude towards science.

"From religion comes a man's purpose; from science, his power to achieve it. Sometimes people ask if religion and science are not opposed to one another. They are: in the sense that the thumb and fingers of my hands are opposed to one another. It is an opposition by means of which anything can be grasped."

--William H. Bragg, British physicist, chemist, and mathematician. Awarded Nobel Prize in 1915
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Terrible attitude towards science.
I fully agree, except the attitude is directed primarily towards the number of "scientists" who want us to accept their belief that there is no God while at the same time wanting us to believe in their unproven theories as if they were fact, such as the Big Bang theory, evolution theory, etc.
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Was that the class where they tried to shove the "you can't believe in God, we want you to believe in our unproven theories" philosophy down the kids' throats?
Funny they never mentioned God in my 6th grade science class nor what I should believe in.

They did however present best current explanations for observable facts.

Most of which were more sophisticated than "God did it."
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I fully agree, except the attitude is directed primarily towards the number of "scientists" who want us to accept their belief that there is no God while at the same time wanting us to believe in their unproven theories as if they were fact, such as the Big Bang theory, evolution theory, etc.
The theories of science aid in the progress of humanity and benefit the entirety of the world through advancements. In an academic place where the purpose is to manufacture productive members of society it seems most appropriate to me to prioritize such subjects.
If a deity wants to contact the academics and let them know that's not the right path, that's a good reason to change their beliefs.

The belief or lack thereof in the existence of a deity is completely unrelated and is never mentioned in schools so that the students can be open minded and think for themselves.
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The belief or lack thereof in the existence of a deity is completely unrelated and is never mentioned in schools so that the students can be open minded and think for themselves.
No, not quite, but almost there,..

Given what science "IS",........ what does it mean if god does exist?
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No, not quite, but almost there,..

Given what science "IS",........ what does it mean if god does exist?
It is possible that a deity created the universe as we know it know with the governing laws in place.
Science helps us interpret the governing factors of the universe as we know it for the better.

What about that is affected if the existence of a deity is proven?
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It is possible that a deity created the universe as we know it know with the governing laws in place.
Science helps us interpret the governing factors of the universe as we know it for the better.

What about that is affected if the existence of a deity is proven?
Nothing changes. The "laws" that we've discovered that govern physical and mathematical science still exist. Whether they are just the way the universe behaves, or whether they were created doesn't change them.
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Nothing changes. The "laws" that we've discovered that govern physical and mathematical science still exist. Whether they are just the way the universe behaves, or whether they were created doesn't change them.
Exactly.
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Nothing changes. The "laws" that we've discovered that govern physical and mathematical science still exist. Whether they are just the way the universe behaves, or whether they were created doesn't change them.
and so in that case by what science "IS" we are explaining,....
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we already have the technology, in a manner of speaking:

http://www.technologyreview.com/v...imulation/
Computer games.

Has anyone ever heard of a computer game creating itself? Like a GOW, or Halo, or Zelda?
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An interesting interview on the matter

http://www.actionbioscience.org/e...iller.html


Whats your opinions guys?
That's assuming God exists at all...

I was watching a documentary on Netflix (it was so-so) but the one interesting nugget I took away from it was the following (paraphased). The biggest difference between humans and animals is not walking/talking/thumbs it's our ability to ask why.

They trained chimps to set up blocks on a table and then substituted one of the blocks that it could not stand up and would always fall. The chimps would either keep trying to stand up the block or get frustrated. Then they would show the same experiment with a human child. After a couple attempts the child would examine the block to try and find out why and try other ways.

To put that in context to your discussions. If we don't give up the "human" portion of us that asks "why", God and Science can reconcile. Some of the smartest people in their generation believed in God and it didn't diminish their ability to ask why.

It's the people who rely on God to supply the "why" for them that can't reconcile between science and god. They have given up their ability to think for themselves and are just like the chimps in the experiment.
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Funny they never mentioned God in my 6th grade science class nor what I should believe in.

They did however present best current explanations for observable facts.

Most of which were more sophisticated than "God did it."
All the while presenting out of date evidence to prove their theories.

I remember reading about the brontosaurus [npr.org]. I'm sure there is a large portion of well educated people who still believe in that particular dinosaur in spite of the evidence.
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All the while presenting out of date evidence to prove their theories.

I remember reading about the brontosaurus [npr.org]. I'm sure there is a large portion of well educated people who still believe in that particular dinosaur in spite of the evidence.
What does a name mixup prove about the scientific method?

That science corrects its mistakes.
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It's the people who rely on God to supply the "why" for them that can't reconcile between science and god. They have given up their ability to think for themselves and are just like the chimps in the experiment.
And you think evolutionists are any different? What's the difference between "God did it" and "It all just happened!" You're either told by the preacher how we came to be or you're told by the teacher. Either way, you're still told what to believe.

As far as creation theory goes, there is no difference. You're either indoctrinated in one or the other.
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