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Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 13 Convertible Touchscreen Ultrabook (Refurbished): Core i5 3317U, 1.70GHz, 4GB DDR3, 128GB SSD, 13.3" 1600x900 IPS LED, Intel HD 4000, 4-cell, Windows 8 EXPIRED

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Lenovo Outlet has Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 13 Convertible Touchscreen Ultrabook (Refurbished) for $749 - eCoupon code MADNESS = $636.65 with free shipping. Thanks lattiboy

Specs
  • Intel Core i5 3317U 1.70GHz ULV Processor
  • 4GB DDR3
  • 128GB SSD
  • 13.3" 1600x900 IPS Capacitive Multitouch LED Convertible Display
  • Intel HD Graphics 4000
  • WiFi N
  • Bluetooth
  • 4-cell Battery
  • Windows 8
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Edited March 9, 2013 at 12:47 AM by lattiboy
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Community Wiki

Last Edited by dfkjhasdlkjfhloiu April 21, 2013 at 11:14 AM
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Check your battery wear by installing this BatteryBar free download [batterybarpro.com].
RAM and battery are both field-replaceable. Tech Manual [lenovo.com]


You cannot purchase a SquareTrade warranty for this since it is a refurbished laptop.


LINKS
Lenovo Partition Structure Hotfix [lenovo.com] <--- Combe C AND D Drives to get a 100GB C Drive

Trackpad Hacking Guide (PDF) [dropbox.com]

Drivers page [lenovo.com]

User Guide - English (PDF) [lenovo.com]

StartIsBack Start Menu [startisback.com] <--- Reactivates the HIDDEN Start Menu. BEST START MENU APP. It doesn't launch a separate process! NO SYSTEM BLOAT.

Classic Shell [classicshell.net] <--Open source Start Menu. SAFE, TRUSTWORTHY MENU APP. it doesn't have a backdoor.

Lenovo Companion Software
OneKey Theater: http://sw.lds.com.cn/ideapad/Onek...heater.zip
Lenovo Transition: http://sw.lds.com.cn/ideapad/Leno...sition.zip
Lenovo Energy Management: http://sw.lds.com.cn/ideapad/Ener...gement.zip

Software that may not work on the Yoga (but is listed):
Smart Update U310: http://sw.lds.com.cn/ideapad/Smar...310410.zip
Smart Update U510: http://sw.lds.com.cn/ideapad/Smar..._U510S.zip


Please post any recommended non-OEM slip-in keyboard covers for this laptop below: (Thanks in advance)

Can someone also post the OEM one and their opinion please? Here it is on Lenovo's website [lenovo.com]. Googling it shows mixed reviews. Thanks in advance. (I'm not sure which to get in regards to comment above). Thanks in advance as well!


Known Issues (and Fixes) - created by jnads
Touchpad not disabling when switching to tablet mode: Re-install the Synaptics driver from the Lenovo website. This is special functionality specifically for this laptop (the driver on the Lenovo site is CUSTOM) and Windows update tends to replace the driver (screwing everything up). I believe you only have to do this once, unless another driver comes out. Alternatively, follow the guide above to install the old driver with the new functionality.

Software keyboard appears, then disappears: Go into Metro and open the Lenovo Companion App. Click the Apps for Ideapad box. Re-install Lenovo Transition. When your device changes states, it will intelligently open the software keyboard as necessary.

LINKS FOR ^^^^ TOP TWO HERE:
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=58239212&postcount=709


Tabet Mode is slow:
-Lenovo under-clocks the processor to 800Mhz in Tablet Mode to keep the heat low. If you don't want this, do one of the following:
-Uninstall Intel Thermal Framework in Remove Programs. Removing this will prevent it from doing that. I haven't done this, so I don't know if it's recommended. I did do the following:
-Alternatively, Hold POWER Down for 10 seconds to COMPLETELY turn off the computer. Start it up and hit F2 to Enter BIOS, switch to 2nd page, disable DPTF, save and exit. I haven't done any benchmarking to verify this works. <--DOES NOT WORK.

C Drive isn't showing all my space:
Lenovo partitions the SSD funky. A 128GB SSD is technically 119GB Usable space. They save 19 GB for a re-install partition (so you can use Lenovo OneKey to wipe the laptop). D drive is a partition to make user-backups (Ghost Images), which is a giant waste.
-Run the partition app up top, which will combine C and D drives. You should get 100GB. I wouldn't re-format the entire drive, because there are still some apps bundled with the laptop that are not on the Lenovo site. There aren't any guides yet for completely reinstalling windows with this laptop.

Touchscreen not working after reboot
There's a fix for that (Touch Screen completely not working after reboot):
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/IdeaP...131/page/4


Touchscreen occasionally "misses" an input (i.e. you have to click twice)
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/IdeaP...d-p/921359
Quote :
The problem here is either (1) the touch device powers down too quickly, (2) it doesn't power back up fast enough, or (3) a bit of both.

Here's the workaround I used (because this was driving me nuts):

- Open device manager
- Expand Human Interface Devices
At the bottom of the HID list are two devices labeled "USB Input Device" On my system, the one we're concerned with is the second one, so the last item in the list, but just to make sure it's the right one:

- Open the device properties
- Click the Details tab
- In the drop down menu, select Hardware Ids
The one we want will say USB\VID_04F3&PID_000A on the second line

- Move to the Power Management tab
- Uncheck "Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power"

Please note I do not yet have numbers on the real impact to battery life this change will have.

That said, we're working to figure out the best way to address this, whether it's turning off power management on the device, or dramatically improving how quickly it's able to detect touch activity.
Fan is loud
There can be two issues:
1. Fan could be broken (bearing loud). This would be a grinding sound.
2. Fan could be rubbing on the metal housing inside the case (tick, tick, tick, tick sound.... somewhat common). You could RMA it, or open up the laptop and bend the housing to fix it yourself.
3. Fan spins up too loud too frequently.

Fan Fix for #3 ("fix" doesn't really work for most people, just slows the fan down. Still loud. Lenovo says they'll fix it in the next firmware update)
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/IdeaP...-p/1065093


Windows 8 Install & Optimization Guide for SSDs [overclock.net] - created by localdeals

Any known solution for a missing mouse cursor? You're driver was most likely updated by either MS in one of its updates, or you upgraded beyond the one offered by Lenovo. Check that your Synaptics version ends with *.3. First, uninstall, the driver from the Device Manager, then reboot. Then, install the Lenovo *.3 version. Also, make sure you had not pressed F6 by accident, as that disables your touchpad.

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#901
Hrm, my D Drive was empty too.... but I still used OneKey to do a system restore.
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Hrm, my D Drive was empty too.... but I still used OneKey to do a system restore.

arg, my OneKey wont work at all.

can you list the partitions you see listed?

I have 5:

Windows8_OS - C: 63.9GB
LENOVO - D: 28.8GB
WINRE_DRV - E: 999MB
LRS_ESP - F: 996MB
PBR_DRV - G: 19.9GB

I think the problem for me is that last G drive should be hidden?
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#903
Been playing with mine for about a week, thus far I'm more than satisfied with it. My particular unit has good battery life, no audible fan noise (I can feel the fan blowing but not really hear it), and no big touchpad or virtual keyboard issues. Initially the virtual keyboard would not pop up in Metro, but after running Windows update initially it was fine.

The only input quirk, which also seems to happen to me on my Nexus 7 tablet, is that pulldown dialog boxes, such as the "search this thread" or "search this forum" here on SD, disappear while you're typing the first one or two letters, so they're unusable. So I always have to click the Advanced Search link to the search page.

When Win8 first came out, I knew I had to try it with a touchscreen to properly evaluate it. Indeed once I tried the Metro interface with a touchscreen at a Microsoft store, I knew I'd not buy my next desktop monitor or laptop unless it had a touchscreen. The Yoga has lived up to expectations in both touchscreen laptop and in tablet mode. Now I totally get the IE in Metro, which behaves more like a tablet including pinch-to-zoom, whereas before a touchscreen it seemed wholly redundant with IE in desktop mode.

The only thing I realized, coming from a 2.4 lb 13" Toshiba ultrabook, is that the extra pound in the Yoga's weight is significant and makes it much harder to hold as a tablet sitting up or lying down. I've gotten used to it, but I do think the sweet spot for a convertible laptop/tablet is probably around 2.5 lbs and 11.5-12.5" 16:10 screen - the upcoming Yoga 11 (not RT) might be ideal. Having been used to 12" Dell Latitudes like the D410 and D420 for a number of years, I think the laptop trend might shift back towards smaller screens, which are closer to the ideal tablet dimensons. Anyway happy with this deal and just need to convince my company IT to support corporate connectivity of my BYO laptop instead of their work-supplied one.

EDIT: Forgot, mine does have one defect - significant backlight bleed (flashlighting) in the lower right corner. I suspect this was the reason the unit was originally returned. It's not noticeable unless the screen is totally black (e.g. on boot), so I'm OK with it.

Also, the power brick gets HOT while charging - but it just took the battery from 5% to 55% in 30 minutes....
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Last edited by wwu123 March 20, 2013 at 07:55 PM
#904
Anyone has experienced this?

http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/IdeaP...-p/1028531

My yoga powers on with the lid closed.

Quote from mullenium View Post :
have you tried onekey?
I haven't try onekey yet. I opened the apps and it works but haven't try to do a recovery.
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Last edited by tran1981 March 20, 2013 at 05:23 PM
#905
Quote from mullenium View Post :
arg, my OneKey wont work at all.

can you list the partitions you see listed?

I have 5:

Windows8_OS - C: 63.9GB
LENOVO - D: 28.8GB
WINRE_DRV - E: 999MB
LRS_ESP - F: 996MB
PBR_DRV - G: 19.9GB

I think the problem for me is that last G drive should be hidden?
Possibly. I only had C and D show up in My Computer.

I did the repartition thing and now I have 100GB.
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#906
Quote from tran1981 View Post :
Anyone has experienced this?

http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/IdeaP...-p/1028531

My yoga powers on with the lid closed.



I haven't try onekey yet. I opened the apps and it works but haven't try to do a recovery.
Mine does that too.
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#907
Wow, I just got off the phone with Lenovo tech support. They DO NOT know anything about tech services. I told the female tech that I was having WIFI connectivity issues and she said that I needed to call my ISP and they needed to change my 3rd party router configuration. HA! Maybe they could change the one at Starbucks while their at it?

There are easily a half dozen devices already connected to a gaming router that I set up myself.

Then she said it was MAC address filtering (which I could never use) and that my router manufacturer had to make changes to my router. Wow.

I then told her no one was going to make changes but me and if she would tell me exactly the changes to be made I would do it. She said she would forward me to the Lenovo's software people so they could guide me through my router configuration.

So, I hung up.
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Quote from nakta139 View Post :
Mine does that too.
Probably this can be fix by a bios update.
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#909
I tried to update the WiFi driver but its the same one as the website. The only issue I have encountered so far is that sometimes the WiFi turn itself off and won't come back on. I have to manually disable the network adapter then re-enable it to work again.
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#910
The touchscreen stop working, reboot didn't bring it back. Is this a popular problem with yago 13?

otherwise, the convertible seems to be perfect, no fan issue, wifi is average but good enough, I love the quick battery charge feature although battery life is good too, it can last few hours easily. I was just about put some serious use of it, more ram is definitely needed as well as a ssd upgrade when possible.
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Last edited by worthmining March 20, 2013 at 09:20 PM
#911
Search on internet, it appears the touchscreen issue is widely reported, it might be the primary reason there many return/refurbished yoga 13 exited. http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/IdeaP...131/page/4

Seems the touchscreen will malfunction when usb devices are under powered, triggered by a plug in usb device or a software, in my case it happened after I installed bluestacks, the android player which is made for windows 8 hence supports the touchscreen. I don't have any usb device connected so the software is the only variable.

Also the D drive is empty, is it supposed to be empty? I haven't tried onekey recovery, does it require content from D drive?
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Quote from worthmining View Post :
Search on internet, it appears the touchscreen issue is widely reported, it might be the primary reason there many return/refurbished yoga 13 exited. http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/IdeaP...131/page/4
I posted in the Wiki that someone "fixed" that by disabling the Bluetooth device.

I personally have not had my touch screen entirely stop responding.
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#913
We have 30 days to return for a full refund without a restocking fee right?
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#914
Quote from jnads View Post :
Possibly. I only had C and D show up in My Computer.

I did the repartition thing and now I have 100GB.
You don't mean to say that a OKR restore brought back contents of the D drive (apps and drivers), do you?

BTW, thanks for all your help in this thread! Very appreciated.
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Quote from floepie View Post :
You don't mean to say that a OKR restore brought back contents of the D drive (apps and drivers), do you?

BTW, thanks for all your help in this thread! Very appreciated.
No, it did not. The directory was still empty, but the computer seemed to restore fine. I honestly didn't even realize there were supposed to be drivers in the D drive.
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