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Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 13 Convertible Touchscreen Ultrabook (Refurbished): Core i5 3317U, 1.70GHz, 4GB DDR3, 128GB SSD, 13.3" 1600x900 IPS LED, Intel HD 4000, 4-cell, Windows 8 EXPIRED

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Lenovo Outlet has Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 13 Convertible Touchscreen Ultrabook (Refurbished) for $749 - eCoupon code MADNESS = $636.65 with free shipping. Thanks lattiboy

Specs
  • Intel Core i5 3317U 1.70GHz ULV Processor
  • 4GB DDR3
  • 128GB SSD
  • 13.3" 1600x900 IPS Capacitive Multitouch LED Convertible Display
  • Intel HD Graphics 4000
  • WiFi N
  • Bluetooth
  • 4-cell Battery
  • Windows 8
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Edited March 9, 2013 at 12:47 AM by lattiboy
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Last Edited by dfkjhasdlkjfhloiu April 21, 2013 at 11:14 AM
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Check your battery wear by installing this BatteryBar free download [batterybarpro.com].
RAM and battery are both field-replaceable. Tech Manual [lenovo.com]


You cannot purchase a SquareTrade warranty for this since it is a refurbished laptop.


LINKS
Lenovo Partition Structure Hotfix [lenovo.com] <--- Combe C AND D Drives to get a 100GB C Drive

Trackpad Hacking Guide (PDF) [dropbox.com]

Drivers page [lenovo.com]

User Guide - English (PDF) [lenovo.com]

StartIsBack Start Menu [startisback.com] <--- Reactivates the HIDDEN Start Menu. BEST START MENU APP. It doesn't launch a separate process! NO SYSTEM BLOAT.

Classic Shell [classicshell.net] <--Open source Start Menu. SAFE, TRUSTWORTHY MENU APP. it doesn't have a backdoor.

Lenovo Companion Software
OneKey Theater: http://sw.lds.com.cn/ideapad/Onek...heater.zip
Lenovo Transition: http://sw.lds.com.cn/ideapad/Leno...sition.zip
Lenovo Energy Management: http://sw.lds.com.cn/ideapad/Ener...gement.zip

Software that may not work on the Yoga (but is listed):
Smart Update U310: http://sw.lds.com.cn/ideapad/Smar...310410.zip
Smart Update U510: http://sw.lds.com.cn/ideapad/Smar..._U510S.zip


Please post any recommended non-OEM slip-in keyboard covers for this laptop below: (Thanks in advance)

Can someone also post the OEM one and their opinion please? Here it is on Lenovo's website [lenovo.com]. Googling it shows mixed reviews. Thanks in advance. (I'm not sure which to get in regards to comment above). Thanks in advance as well!


Known Issues (and Fixes) - created by jnads
Touchpad not disabling when switching to tablet mode: Re-install the Synaptics driver from the Lenovo website. This is special functionality specifically for this laptop (the driver on the Lenovo site is CUSTOM) and Windows update tends to replace the driver (screwing everything up). I believe you only have to do this once, unless another driver comes out. Alternatively, follow the guide above to install the old driver with the new functionality.

Software keyboard appears, then disappears: Go into Metro and open the Lenovo Companion App. Click the Apps for Ideapad box. Re-install Lenovo Transition. When your device changes states, it will intelligently open the software keyboard as necessary.

LINKS FOR ^^^^ TOP TWO HERE:
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=58239212&postcount=709


Tabet Mode is slow:
-Lenovo under-clocks the processor to 800Mhz in Tablet Mode to keep the heat low. If you don't want this, do one of the following:
-Uninstall Intel Thermal Framework in Remove Programs. Removing this will prevent it from doing that. I haven't done this, so I don't know if it's recommended. I did do the following:
-Alternatively, Hold POWER Down for 10 seconds to COMPLETELY turn off the computer. Start it up and hit F2 to Enter BIOS, switch to 2nd page, disable DPTF, save and exit. I haven't done any benchmarking to verify this works. <--DOES NOT WORK.

C Drive isn't showing all my space:
Lenovo partitions the SSD funky. A 128GB SSD is technically 119GB Usable space. They save 19 GB for a re-install partition (so you can use Lenovo OneKey to wipe the laptop). D drive is a partition to make user-backups (Ghost Images), which is a giant waste.
-Run the partition app up top, which will combine C and D drives. You should get 100GB. I wouldn't re-format the entire drive, because there are still some apps bundled with the laptop that are not on the Lenovo site. There aren't any guides yet for completely reinstalling windows with this laptop.

Touchscreen not working after reboot
There's a fix for that (Touch Screen completely not working after reboot):
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/IdeaP...131/page/4


Touchscreen occasionally "misses" an input (i.e. you have to click twice)
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/IdeaP...d-p/921359
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The problem here is either (1) the touch device powers down too quickly, (2) it doesn't power back up fast enough, or (3) a bit of both.

Here's the workaround I used (because this was driving me nuts):

- Open device manager
- Expand Human Interface Devices
At the bottom of the HID list are two devices labeled "USB Input Device" On my system, the one we're concerned with is the second one, so the last item in the list, but just to make sure it's the right one:

- Open the device properties
- Click the Details tab
- In the drop down menu, select Hardware Ids
The one we want will say USB\VID_04F3&PID_000A on the second line

- Move to the Power Management tab
- Uncheck "Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power"

Please note I do not yet have numbers on the real impact to battery life this change will have.

That said, we're working to figure out the best way to address this, whether it's turning off power management on the device, or dramatically improving how quickly it's able to detect touch activity.
Fan is loud
There can be two issues:
1. Fan could be broken (bearing loud). This would be a grinding sound.
2. Fan could be rubbing on the metal housing inside the case (tick, tick, tick, tick sound.... somewhat common). You could RMA it, or open up the laptop and bend the housing to fix it yourself.
3. Fan spins up too loud too frequently.

Fan Fix for #3 ("fix" doesn't really work for most people, just slows the fan down. Still loud. Lenovo says they'll fix it in the next firmware update)
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/IdeaP...-p/1065093


Windows 8 Install & Optimization Guide for SSDs [overclock.net] - created by localdeals

Any known solution for a missing mouse cursor? You're driver was most likely updated by either MS in one of its updates, or you upgraded beyond the one offered by Lenovo. Check that your Synaptics version ends with *.3. First, uninstall, the driver from the Device Manager, then reboot. Then, install the Lenovo *.3 version. Also, make sure you had not pressed F6 by accident, as that disables your touchpad.

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#1051
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Anyone else having problems with the paint? the two rubber feet that are exposed by the slot in case are causing little marks on the paint of the lid when its in tablet mode. I just tried to get it off with a microfiber cloth and some eyeglass cleaner I use for screens. The marks faded a little bit but now there is two big discoloration marks on the paint around those little marks(looks like the rubberized finish is rubbing off. Of course the free return window is over but I don't want to have a laptop that's going to look like crap in a month.. This is only like 2 weeks old and the paint is already getting messed up. Why didn't they use a better material/paint for this $1000 ultrabook?..
A couple of little dots on the back of the lid will make it "look like crap"? Or are you saying that you scrubbed it so hard that you discolored a much larger spot?
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#1052
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A couple of little dots on the back of the lid will make it "look like crap"? Or are you saying that you scrubbed it so hard that you discolored a much larger spot?
Haha no I'm not that nitpicky. I'm just saying that I've had the laptop for a week and those marks appeared. God only knows what its going to look like in a month or two. And I do take blame for the much larger spots but I didn't rub the hell out of it, I wiped it with a cloth with very little force.
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#1053
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Anyone else having problems with the paint?.
I do. On the 6th day of ownership I dropped mine from waist high in the middle of a paved road. Lots of that soft outer coating scraped off
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#1054
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I do. On the 6th day of ownership I dropped mine from waist high in the middle of a paved road. Lots of that soft outer coating scraped off
at least it still works Wink
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at least it still works Wink
Thanks to no moving parts!
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#1056
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Thanks to no moving parts!
I like the $10 laptop sleeve from Amazon. Fits like a glove.

http://www.amazon.com/KOZMICC-Bla...top+sleeve

Offers some padding, has a handle, and a large compartment for the charger and accessories. Keeps it thin, too. I have the red one, looks sleek.
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#1057
Quote from jnads View Post :
I like the $10 laptop sleeve from Amazon. Fits like a glove.

http://www.amazon.com/KOZMICC-Bla...top+sleeve

Offers some padding, has a handle, and a large compartment for the charger and accessories. Keeps it thin, too. I have the red one, looks sleek.
another suggestion for a few more dollars
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Case+...&cp=1&lp=1
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#1058
Oh, Lenovo. When will you get more back in stock? I'd like to buy another one...perhaps in tangerine orange.
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Quote from pseudoswede View Post :
I have a similar situation. The keyboard and trackpad suddenly stop working in laptop mode. Nice deduction that it probably thinks it's in tablet mode. The Synaptics icon in the taskbar shows as being X'd out with no way to re-enable it. Only way I've fixed it is rebooting; which isn't much of an issue since it's so bleepin' fast.

It happens at most once every other day, so it's not a common problem. I've tried reinstalling the trackpad drivers twice. Maybe I need to reinstall Lenovo Transition.
Since I reinstalled Lenovo Transition, I've not that this issue anymore.

Being able to flip it over in tent mode to watch the Masters coverage made me a popular guy in the conference room I was working in.
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Got my yoga a few days ago and have been using it extensively; looking for feedback from others to decide if I want to RMA (or see if I can get warranty support).

First: I love this laptop. It's beautifully thin, light, the screen is unbelievable, and all the textures on all sides are perfect. It runs fast and smooth, and I love to use it in most of the configurations (laptop, tablet, tent). But there's a few things that are bugging me:

1) the fan: I flashed the "special" EC but it doesn't seem to make much of a difference. If it is turned on, so is the fan. And the fan is constantly spinning faster and slower, making it that much more noticeable (did it three times while writing this sentence). It's fairly quiet, but the constant stepping up and down is pretty annoying. Should I get Lenovo to fix this?

2) the keyboard: when I click some of the keys on the right side (especially 'L' and 'P') I get a small pop sound. Not every time; seems like it's when I haven't touched that side of the keyboard in a few keystrokes. Means that while I'm typing, I get an occasional pop sound once or twice per sentence. It's not a dealbreaker, but I'm just wondering if anyone else noticed this.

3) heat: this laptop runs really hot if I turn on a steam game. Playing civ5 makes the area under the top middle of the keyboard too hot to touch. Anything else that uses much resources does the same. Even now, I have open a few windows and a office document and it's not hot, but it's a lot warmer than I think it should be.

4) Performance: while it's not bad, I'd hoped for much better (that said, it's really pretty good). In tablet mode, however, it gets really slow (800mhz? come on). I tried the fixes in the wiki but it doesn't seem to make a difference. Anyone have a solution?

5) Battery charging: Edit: this one is actually a feature (and now that I know, I dig it). Lenovo Energy Management can be set to "maximum battery life"; it stops charging at 60%. This is actually a pretty good idea for those who leave their laptop plugged in most of the time (since keeping the battery full all the time is actually worse than keeping it partially charged).

6) windows 8: I'm usually really open to learning new systems, but I have to admit that windows 8 is sort of a pain to use and multitasking using the gestures is cute but annoyingly slow. Lenovo transition is a good idea, but the implementation is painfully bad: if I open two windows on the desktop, I should be able to move one to the transition area. I think the most frustrating part of windows 8 is the lack of gmail and google calendar apps (don't correct me; I know I can use it in the mail app (awful app with no specialized feature) and the desktop mode; I want it in the modern apps. I don't really care which company is to blame; that's politics. I just want it fixed, and fast. Also, the swipe gestures are not particularly smooth, especially from the edges.


Like I said at the top--this is a great laptop and great form-factor. These little problems are getting to me, and I'd like to give it a chance before I send it back. Any suggestions are welcome.
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4) Performance: while it's not bad, I'd hoped for much better (that said, it's really pretty good). In tablet mode, however, it gets really slow (800mhz? come on). I tried the fixes in the wiki but it doesn't seem to make a difference. Anyone have a solution?
To fix this you need to turn DTPF off in the BIOS.
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To fix this you need to turn DTPF in the BIOS.
turn on? turn off?
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To fix this you need to turn DTPF in the BIOS.
Quote from blackblaze View Post :
turn on? turn off?
Whoops, turn off.

And it's DPTF.


It stands for Dynamic Platform & Thermal Framework. Otherwise the laptop will throttle to 800Mhz in Tablet mode and also throttle when it gets hot.
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To fix this you need to turn DTPF off in the BIOS.
Thanks, I'll give that a try. What about some of the other questions? Like the "pop" under the right side of the keyboard or the fan constantly whining (even after flashing the special EC). Do you have those issues too, or do I have a dud?
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Quote from jnads View Post :
To fix this you need to turn DTPF off in the BIOS.
Quote from blackblaze View Post :
turn on? turn off?
Note: I know nothing of clock speeds or how they work or are measured....

That said, I just tested this with cpu-z and found a few funny things:

First: CPU-z thinks that the processor is running at over 2ghz (I didn't write it down, I'll correct this after I restart). When folded back to tablet mode, it switches to 800mhz instantly. Turning DTPF off makes no difference to either mode, so this solution is either incorrect or I'm not understanding this correctly.

What's more interesting, though, is that it appears that once the processor is underclocked, it stays that way until a restart (again, doesn't matter if DTPF is on or off). This may explain my problems with responsiveness, though it is a major flaw.

Can someone else confirm this or tell me what I'm doing wrong?


**Update: found this thread. Apparently this was known a few months ago, but nothing changed? I'm going to try uninstalling (rather than disabling) the DTPF to see if that helps.

**Update 2: Uninstalling DTPF was the solution (just disabling it in the BIOS was ineffective). I'd really prefer to have some way of toggling this; there are plenty of times having the underclock while in tablet mode would be fine (like at a coffeeshop when all I'm doing is reading). Since netflix doesn't work at 800mhz, at least I now have a solution to that...
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