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IRS admits, apologizes for singling out conservative groups

Krazen1211 9,130 425 May 10, 2013 at 01:25 PM
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Responding to a flurry of complaints from conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status, the Internal Revenue Service admitted Friday it made "mistakes" in the last few years while trying to process those requests.

Multiple tea party groups reported significant delays and excessive questioning from IRS officials while trying to obtain 501(c)(4) status.

"I think it was without doubt wrong. We knew it was wrong in the beginning," he said. "They had no right, whatsoever,...no right to deny us tax exempt status that 501(c)(4) groups routinely received."




Interesting. When Obama For America became a 501c4, it took them a few days.

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You missed the important kernel:

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However, approximately 75 of the 300 groups that were filed for further review were simply filed because they had the names "tea party" and "patriot," Lerner said.

"They did pick the cases by names and that's absolutely inappropriate and not the way we should do things," she said, though stressing it was done as a "shortcut," not out of "political bias."
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Using the IRS go go after your political opponents - impeachment material?
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Nothing to see here... move along baggers...
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Using the IRS go go after your political opponents - impeachment material?
nah...when someone with a D after their name is in the WH, it's all good....now had it been Bush using the IRS as a weapon against Code Pink, MediaMatters, or the dozens of Soros-funded entities, that would have been an unprecedented scandal that the media would never get over.
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yep nothing to see. just more crybaby conservatives.
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If this would've happened on Bush's watch dealing with Democratic Obama (or Hillary) supporters. There'd be screams of racism or gender discrimination.

I'm amazed I didn't catch this in news anywhere. Must be a pretty insignificant issue, sort of like Benghazi I suppose.
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I like how Carney had his "But but but Booooosh!" moment when he said that the IRS is led by an appointee of the "prior administration". Too funny! Thanks Drudge!

http://m.weeklystandard.com/blogs...22149.html
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/irs...49480.html

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Internal Revenue Service inappropriately flagged conservative political groups for additional reviews during the 2012 election to see if they were violating their tax-exempt status, a top IRS official said Friday. Organizations were singled out because they included the words "tea party" or "patriot" in their applications for tax-exempt status, said Lois Lerner, who heads the IRS division that oversees tax-exempt groups. In some cases, groups were asked for their list of donors, which violates IRS policy in most cases, she said. "That was wrong. That was absolutely incorrect, it was insensitive and it was inappropriate. That's not how we go about selecting cases for further review," Lerner said at a conference sponsored by the American Bar Association. "The IRS would like to apologize for that," she added. Lerner said the practice was initiated by low-level workers in Cincinnati and was not motivated by political bias. After her talk, she told The AP that no high level IRS officials knew about the practice....

Many conservative groups complained during the election that they were being harassed by the IRS. They accused the agency of frustrating their attempts to become tax exempt by sending them lengthy, intrusive questionnaires. The forms, which the groups made available at the time, sought information about group members' political activities, including details of their postings on social networking websites and about family members. Certain tax-exempt charitable groups can conduct political activities but it cannot be their primary activity......"


Of course the IRS blames the low-level workers for this. No one in real authority "knew" what was going on. The democrats better hope they stay in power because won't it be fun for them when they are on the receiving end of the IRS when it's used against them for political gain. I think we should all be concerned when the IRS uses its power to punish a particular group. Political parties change but the IRS will continue to be a tool to intimidate and harass your opponents.
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Quote from andyfico View Post :
I like how Carney had his "But but but Booooosh!" moment when he said that the IRS is led by an appointee of the "prior administration". Too funny! Thanks Drudge!

http://m.weeklystandard.com/blogs...22149.html

I'm guessing Carney's pouring heavy tonight.

Guy's had a rough week. lol
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I like how Carney had his "But but but Booooosh!" moment when he said that the IRS is led by an appointee of the "prior administration". Too funny! Thanks Drudge!

http://m.weeklystandard.com/blogs...22149.html
Don't you think that rather handily nullifies the implication that this was a concerted political move from the current administration?

Obviously there's a limited value to profiling, but I really don't think it's that crazy to apply some extra scrutiny to the tax exemption applications of rabid, self-proclaimed, anti-tax activists.

We're talking about folks who run the gamut from "taxes are too high" to "all taxes are theft and we should have a revolution." Actually seems pretty reasonable to think that they might be more disposed to game a system they see as inherently unjust and apply extra scrutiny to those applications.

Okay. Back to your Obama bashing.
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Don't you think that rather handily nullifies the implication that this was a concerted political move from the current administration?

Obviously there's a limited value to profiling, but I really don't think it's that crazy to apply some extra scrutiny to the tax exemption applications of rabid, self-proclaimed, anti-tax activists.

We're talking about folks who run the gamut from "taxes are too high" to "all taxes are theft and we should have a revolution." Actually seems pretty reasonable to think that they might be more disposed to game a system they see as inherently unjust and apply extra scrutiny to those applications.

Okay. Back to your Obama bashing.

Wouldn't make a whole lot of sense to be concerned with the level of taxation if you had no intention of paying them now would it?

But if we're going to do it then lets at least be evenhanded... Certainly reasonable to target "movie," "singer," "producer," "entertainment" and similar terms for some extra scrutiny given the track record. Better potential return on effort too given the dollar amounts involved. There's gold in them Hollywood Hills. ; )

Yeah, nobody would complain about that at all... lol
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Wouldn't make a whole lot of sense to be concerned with the level of taxation if you had no intention of paying them now would it?
Its a helluva lot harder for the IRS to go after you if youre sheltering income in a non profit than if you just tried to avoid paying taxes altogether.

As for the rest of your post, i seriously cant even begin to decipher what youre trying to get at. Its borderline drunk post.
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Its a helluva lot harder for the IRS to go after you if youre sheltering income in a non profit than if you just tried to avoid paying taxes altogether.
Not really. Especially when you typically have various forms of partnerships and corporate entities involved in such things.

But point being that it makes as much or more sense as the justification provided in the post to which I was responding.


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As for the rest of your post, i seriously cant even begin to decipher what youre trying to get at. Its borderline drunk post.
You shouldn't have any problem with that given most of yours.
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