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IRS admits, apologizes for singling out conservative groups

Krazen1211 417 May 10, 2013 at 01:25 PM
Link [cnn.com]

Responding to a flurry of complaints from conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status, the Internal Revenue Service admitted Friday it made "mistakes" in the last few years while trying to process those requests.

Multiple tea party groups reported significant delays and excessive questioning from IRS officials while trying to obtain 501(c)(4) status.

"I think it was without doubt wrong. We knew it was wrong in the beginning," he said. "They had no right, whatsoever,...no right to deny us tax exempt status that 501(c)(4) groups routinely received."




Interesting. When Obama For America became a 501c4, it took them a few days.

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So I assume your logic behind supporting increased taxes is, "Let's just raise taxes to cover our current spending, they will then get their house in order and we can move forward without deficit spending (or more tax increases)". Am I correct? Need I go over the folly of this argument?
Yer incorrect. Our expenses are more than our revenues. Hence.....

Do I think we can cut expenses? Absolutely. Look at all the welfare/perks/handout/special treatment to the rich and businesses.
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#47
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Yer incorrect. Our expenses are more than our revenues. Hence.....

Do I think we can cut expenses? Absolutely. Look at all the welfare/perks/handout/special treatment to the rich and businesses.
So why then are you ok with tax increases?
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So why then are you ok with tax increases?
Well, I already answered that. Here it is again:

Our expenses are more than our revenues. Hence.....

Also...... because many conservatives call elimination of frivolous deductions to and special treatments of the rich a "tax increase." They are even against closing loopholes.
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#49
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Well, I already answered that. Here it is again:

Our expenses are more than our revenues. Hence.....

Also...... because many conservatives call elimination of frivolous deductions to and special treatments of the rich a "tax increase." They are even against closing loopholes.
How is this any different then my original, "Let's just raise taxes to cover our current spending..."??

My point is how high do you think we should go with taxes? 25%? 50%? 75%? How high before we have almost nothing and the government has it all and still spends more then their revenue?
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Isn't the IRS responsible for enforcing the fines in Obamacare? Are they really trustworthy to do that? Is anyone concerned about a group that is obviously politically controlled by the White House administering fines on people?
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How is this any different then my original, "Let's just raise taxes to cover our current spending..."??
It s different because I acknowledge that we can reduce our expenses. And I do not mind raising taxes if it is not accompanied by increases expenses and all increased expenses are forced to be paid for. You?

Quote from dealgate View Post :
My point is how high do you think we should go with taxes? 25%? 50%? 75%? How high before we have almost nothing and the government has it all and still spends more then their revenue?
As high as we can then cover our expenses. Are you not for paying our expenses? If you want to cut expenses, be my guest. But we should pay for our expenses, be they cut or not. Do you disagree?
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Isn't the IRS responsible for enforcing the fines in Obamacare? Are they really trustworthy to do that? Is anyone concerned about a group that is obviously politically controlled by the White House administering fines on people?
I do not think it is what you think. It is not like a police officer giving traffic tickets, where there is a higher level of subjective determination and discretion. I suspect with IRS, there are 1040 Form lines that ask if you have ins and if not to add some fines/fees/whatever in the next line.
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It s different because I acknowledge that we can reduce our expenses. And I do not mind raising taxes if it is not accompanied by increases expenses and all increased expenses are forced to be paid for. You?



As high as we can then cover our expenses. Are you not for paying our expenses? If you want to cut expenses, be my guest. But we should pay for our expenses, be they cut or not. Do you disagree?
The government spends 50% more then it gets, so you are saying taxes should increase 50%?
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The government spends 50% more then it gets, so you are saying taxes should increase 50%?
I say, (AGAIN!!!!!!):

1. We can decrease our expenses
2. We should collect as much as we spend

You? (I have asked this of you several times but without answering you keep asking your original question that I have already answered in a yet a slightly different form. Argh!)
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I say, (AGAIN!!!!!!):

1. We can decrease our expenses
2. We should collect as much as we spend

You? (I have asked this of you several times but without answering you keep asking your original question that I have already answered in a yet a slightly different form. Argh!)
I am easy, reduce spending to or below current revenue levels. You could fire 75% of government employees at random and never know the difference. You could cut Military by 25% and still be the strongest force on the planet.
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is this one worse than Watergate too?
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is this one worse than Watergate too?
IF (<--- that's a BIG IF) it were ever shown to be directly or indirectly connected to anyone at the White House then it surely would be. The "enemies list" and using the IRS to target people was a big part of it and specifically charged in the impeachment.
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is this one worse than Watergate too?
Despite being a left of center Democrat, I find this scandle a huge fricken problem. We are talking about a serious abuse of power and a FULL and complete investigation must take place. If this goes up to Obama, he should be impeached. My bet is that it didn't reach that high, but we need to see where the evidence takes us. Never should any department of this government target individuals based upon their political affiliations.
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Despite being a left of center Democrat, I find this scandle a huge fricken problem. We are talking about a serious abuse of power and a FULL and complete investigation must take place. If this goes up to Obama, he should be impeached. My bet is that it didn't reach that high, but we need to see where the evidence takes us. Never should any department of this government target individuals based upon their political affiliations.
I can certainly agree with that.

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IF (<--- that's a BIG IF) it were ever shown to be directly or indirectly connected to anyone at the White House then it surely would be. The "enemies list" and using the IRS to target people was a big part of it and specifically charged in the impeachment.
directly OR indirectly?

ANYONE at the White House?

sorry, that's far too broad
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LOLOLOLOL - So Obama just came out denying that he had any knowledge of this and vowing to "get to the bottom of it". LOLOLOL - Does ANYONE believe he did not know about this? Ha!
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