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Promoted 06-07-2013 by yuugotserved at 09:58 PM View Original Post
Costco has Ooma Telo VoIP Phone System on sale for $99.99. Shipping is free. Thanks jaewang

Note, non-members are subject to a 5% surcharge, making it $106.50
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Edited June 11, 2013 at 05:44 AM by jaewang
Your price $99.99 @ Costco.

$30 mfg discount is valid 06/07/13 through 06/16/13. While supplies last.

http://Www.Costco.com/Ooma-Telo-V...03374.html

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Quote from nyhteg View Post :
Stupid... store price is 129, they won't do 99, wasted trip
Word of caution from banjolaya on post #77:
Quote from banjolaya View Post :
Word of caution: Before you buy OOMA go to pingtest.net and test your packet loss, ping and jitter.
If you have any packet loss - this might not be for you.
If you have high ping - OOMA might not be for you.
If your jitter is greater than 5 - this is definitely not for you.
There are multiple postings online about OOMA and jitter. The problem comes and goes. Some say it's your IP provider's fault (faulty lines leading to your home), IP provider customer service says - It's not us, it's your modem. You can google this issue and you'll find that some people had real problems with it (myself included).
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Last Edited by MozartA June 11, 2013 at 01:32 AM
Consumer Reports (May 2011, June 2012, May 2013) rated Ooma #1 over all other VOIP, Landline & Fiber Optic phone companies 3 years in a row!

Note:
  • Ooma didn't charge monthly fee but they charge tax (include expenses to collect the taxes). It is as high as $100+ a year. Look up the amount you'll pay monthly here: https://go.ooma.com/tax_calculator
    Some examples
    • 60043, $8.31 a month (10/11/2012) increased to $8.52 (12/6/2012), 8.47 (4/21/2013)
    • 60603, $7.81 a month (10/11/2012) increased to $8.05 (12/6/2012), 8.00 (4/21/2013)
    • 94115/94118, etc <--- $6.59 (9/26/2012), $6.63 (10/11/2012) increased to $6.90 (12/6/2012), $6.85 (4/21/2013)
    • 95138/95119/95123, etc <--- $5.51
    • 94526 <-- $3.80 (Cheap as hell)
    • 92154 $3.75
    • 45150 $3.73
      [*}74653 $3.71
    • 11566 $3.73
    • 30115 - only $3.72 (9/26/2012) increased to $3.76 (10/11/2012), so varies a lot
    • 21093 6.94 a month (10/02/2012) decreased to 3.73 (01/08/2013) (state, county, other, and county utility tax was removed)
    • 06461 $3.71 (as of 6/7/2013)
  • People in Ooma forum indicate once the tax/fee is fully implemented, it should closely match your postpaid cellphone/local landline bill in term of fee/taxes. So check your cellphone/landline bill to see eventually how much fee/taxes you will need to pay if your area hasn't implement all the state/county/city fee/taxes yet.
  • Ooma can change their tax/fee without notify the customer. They will just charge your credit card with the new fee. Some Ooma customers were surprised after they check their credit card bill and notice the big increase in monthly fee (from $3.xx to $6.xx after they include the county, city, local taxes/fee.) Again, if you don't pay attention to your credit bill, you may not notice the increase.
  • Any change of hardware will lose grandfather plan. Directly from Ooma forum.
    http://www.ooma.com/forums/viewto...XES#p99565
    http://www.ooma.com/forums//viewt...=6&t=14373
    http://www.ooma.com/forums/viewto...=6&t=14918
  • For new activations, no matter what kind of device (even new Ooma Core), now, Ooma requires monthly taxes (Regulatory Recovery Fees). Directly from Ooma forum.
    http://www.ooma.com/forums//viewt...10#p102159
    http://www.ooma.com/forums/viewto...39#p109939

Q. Aren't those fees mostly federal/state fees/taxes that would be raising any landline by the same amount too?

A. They include regulatory compliance fees, 911 service fees, the Federal Universal Service Charge (U.S. customers only) and state or province and local taxes, fees and surcharges. And from https://go.ooma.com/tax_calculator , click on Regulatory Compliance Fee (what's this?). It also includes.....
(3) costs Ooma incurs administering, billing, collecting and making required tax and regulatory filings and complying with other regulations; (That should include all the expenses for operating the computer servers, CSR, etc, administering cost.)



Look up the amount you'll pay monthly here: https://go.ooma.com/tax_calculator




Alternative to Ooma (especially if you need Ooma Premier features)
BASIC TALK works out at $12-$16 a month inc fees/taxes when you sign up at www.basictalk.com similar to the ooma premier but you don't have to buy the box.
www.basictalk.com
- $9.99 a month for life + tax (rate will not change)
- Unlimited call to U.S., Canada, Puerto Rico -3000 minute fair use policy
- Free number porting
- Free Basic Talk box device
- Includes Voicemail, Caller ID, 3-way calling, Call waiting, 911 service and many others
- No activation fee

http://www.itpvoip.com/ - ITP Voip, $9.99/month basic plan include unlimited incoming call and 500 outgoing within US/Canada/Puerto Rico.
- Free Linksys router/phone adapter
- Good international rates
- No annual contract
- include number porting
- Voice to email/Text, Advanced call forwarding (based on Time of Day, etc), Outbound call block, Call recording, advanced white/black list by Time of Day, etc

Some useful information about OBi
  • Even though Google Voice don't have E911 support, you can signup for E911 yourself
    Link to How to set-up 911 calling on an OBi device
    http://blog.obihai.com/2011/11/ca...vices.html
    • Cheapest E911 provider is Anveo (at $0.8/month) http://www.anveo.com/service.asp (FREE plan and add E911)
    • If you are switching from POTS to Obi or other voip services, in many states the old phone line will remain active for calling 911. You just leave your phone connected and they disabled outgoing calls at the phone company computers.
    • if you do not want to 'dedicate' a SIP slot for E911, you can use http://www.gv911.com/ - costs $12/year
    • www.smart911.com - Smart911 is a free service that allows citizens across the U.S. to create a Safety Profile for their household that includes any information they want 9-1-1 to have in the event of an emergency. Then, when anyone in that household dials 9-1-1 from a phone associated with their Safety Profile, their profile is immediately displayed to the 9-1-1 call taker providing additional information that can be used to facilitate the proper response to the proper location.
      Can check availability under the About page.
  • before you start porting your number to GV, check this first http://www.obihai.com/porttutorial.html
  • configuring 'single' stage dialing here - http://www.obitalk.com/forum/inde...pic=1103.0
  • Obi device offer a lot of powerful features like Auto Attendant (which you can setup your own Interactive response system), Call bridging, etc. AutoAttendant (AA)/Interactive Voice Response (IVR) make the Obi a bit more dynamic for eg. callback for cheap/free call while away from home, etc. And you can record your own AA message.
    Do google search and look at the Obi Admin Guide for more info.
    http://obihai.com/docs/OBiDeviceAdminGuide.pdf
    http://www.obitalk.com/forum/inde...topic=66.0
    http://www.obitalk.com/forum/inde...pic=4822.0
    https://www.obitalk.com/forum/ind...pic=2114.0
  • cheapest pay-per-minute is by localphone.com at 0.5 cent/minute to US numbers
  • MagicJack/Nettalk/Ooma can be connected to the POTS line of this obi110 - look at obitalk forum for more info on this. (in theory these are next best to free GV)
  • For people want alternative to GV, here are some good quality and/or low price Voips. Some of those VoIP Services offer phone number in other countries also. Remember this is a standard SIP device so you are not tie to GV and any specific Voip.
  • Some Voip that provide free incoming call. May want to double check and see if this information is out of date or not.
    • For free incoming call, you can also use IpKall. It works with Callcentric to provide free local number in Washington State and free incoming call.
      http://www.ipkall.com/
    • Another service offer free incoming phone number
      http://www.sipgate.com/
  • Here are some of the Voip that offer very low price International Calls
    • Onesuite and localphone offer a lot of local access number so can use it without Voip device. Those two also offer international local access number which you can use outside US. Check their website for more info.
      http://www.onesuite.com (Onesuite has been around for 10+ years and consistently great quality)
      - offer low price long distance
      - Internet Fax
      - Global Call Forwarding
      - Voip phone service
    • http://www.localphone.com (cheapest pay-per-minute is by localphone.com at 0.5 cent/minute to US numbers)



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#106
Awesome price for a great VOIP system, thanks.
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#107
Number Porting- I punched in my number and it says "We may not be able to port your phone number to Ooma at this time. We are always expanding our coverage, so please check back with us later!"

Don't I 'own' my number? I don't want to buy this if I have to change my number- its for my business and I have my number on all of my advertising, signs etc.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm sick of sending $60 a month to the phone co.
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#108
Quote from dbay.com View Post :
Number Porting- I punched in my number and it says "We may not be able to port your phone number to Ooma at this time. We are always expanding our coverage, so please check back with us later!"

Don't I 'own' my number? I don't want to buy this if I have to change my number- its for my business and I have my number on all of my advertising, signs etc.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm sick of sending $60 a month to the phone co.
I had same problem. Porting my landline number to any voip provider simply does not work--including vonnage, google voice, etc. So I followed others' advice to port landline to a cell/mobile plan first, then transfer from the cell provider to voip provider. That works for many, but not for the phone number we've had the past 25 years. So we had to decider whether to a) keep landline, b) keep as cell phone, or c) let the number go and get a brand new number for voip (which we did with google voice). So some numbers simply won't port, based on the area code + first 3 numbers of phone number.

Quote from wrtoyworks View Post :
I had same problem. Porting my landline number to any voip provider simply does not work--including vonnage, google voice, etc. So I followed others' advice to port landline to a cell/mobile plan first, then transfer from the cell provider to voip provider. That works for many, but not for the phone number we've had the past 25 years. So we had to decider whether to a) keep landline, b) keep as cell phone, or c) let the number go and get a brand new number for voip (which we did with google voice). So some numbers simply won't port, based on the area code + first 3 numbers of phone number.
Each provider like vonnage, google voice, others usually provides a way to check if your number will port before you buy equipment or actually try to port. But my experience has been that if one provider (like oomla) says won't port, it won't for any other voip either.
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#109
Just doing the math and would appreciate if someone with experience would comment:

I know that netTALK has no customer service (2 hour wait if you ever need help) so that it is effectively a huge gamble since if your netTALK device dies after the store return period expires - you're on your own but what are the disadvantages of netTALK IF you get a working unit? If the upfront cost is less, particularly if you get it on sale and yearly fees are the same or lower if you live in a tax-high area.


So if you buy it somewhere you can return it to like Staples, are you not better off $-wise if you can be lucky enough to get a working device and test netTALK to work?


Pls correct me if I'm wrong but the math appears to be: three times less $ upfront for netTALK or two times less if there is no sale. Then free first year on netTALK (so 12x whatever the monthly rate is on Ooma of savings) and then after that they are close to even or netTALK is less, depending on which TAX state you are in.


Also, can someone confirm that Ooma does Fax machines like netTALK? If Ooma also does faxes, then is better customer service the reason we should pay so much more upfront because sound quality only matters if you buy netTALK from somewhere you can't return/exchange it from and you're unlucky enough to get a bad device.
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Last edited by c627627 June 8, 2013 at 11:19 AM.
#110
Is OBI 100% free monthly for calling within US or you have to pay extra for VOIP services?
Can you hook up all of your home phones to one OBI 100?
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#111
Are these better than a magic jack?
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#112
After debating to buy it for a couple of years, I made the change to Ooma last year. It is one of the best decisions I made. Unlimited calling to the US, can't beat that. With my previous telephone provider I used to pay over $25 dlls to have 1,000 minutes to call to Mexico. WIth Ooma I pay $10.00 dlls for 1,000 minutes. Do the math. Ooma=GREAT SAVINGS. In addition, I traveled to Mexico in January and took my Ooma with me. I connected it to the Internet and was making calls to the US as if I was here in the US. No additional costs. I recommend that if you are thinking of buying Ooma, you are wasting your time by thinking about it. Just buy it!
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#113
My sales tax rate is 9.5%,
They are charging me tax on full $129 amount.
I think it should be 9.5% of $99.99

Subtotal: $129.99
Less Promo Code: ($30.00)
Shipping & Handling: $0.00
Tax: $12.35

Order Total: $112.34

EDIT: answered my own question. What a scam the government has going here. Same goes for mail in rebates.
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Sales Tax Charge on Pre-Coupon Price

Costco offers our members special savings on selected name brand products. The manufacturers of these items, both regional and national in market, participate by reimbursing costco for the amount of coupons and discounts redeemed.

Under tax law, the discount offered under a manufacturer's coupon, where the manufacturer funds the discount, is subject to sales tax. Most states take the position that the merchandise is still being sold for the full original sales price. In these situations, the law requires that sales tax be calculated and charged on the sales price prior to any discount.

In all states where we have warehouses, except CT, MA, PA, and TX, items are taxed before the coupon is deducted.
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Last edited by the_bhagwan June 8, 2013 at 12:11 PM.
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#114
I don't understand why someone would get this and have to pay $5 in taxes each month when you can get Obi for like $40 and not have to pay taxes. They both do the same exact thing.
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Is OBI 100% free monthly for calling within US or you have to pay extra for VOIP services?
Can you hook up all of your home phones to one OBI 100?
You can hook the Obi to your phone jack in the wall, then plug all your other phones into the same jacks you used before. However, in my use, my cordless in the living room had a slight delay with all calls. Moved it closer to the Obi and fixed. My wiring may be to blame, but wanted to mention it. Obi is 100% free with Google Voice through the end of this year at least. But there is a e911 service for 0.80c/month you can get and I suggest it, as cell phones don't do 911 very well and accurately from what I've read. (others may have different information) The e911 does use normal phone lines and circuits, so you don't get the full 911 advantage I read about where in cases where phone lines are out of service, 911 will still work. Read something a few years ago that all VoiP providers had to notify customers about this. Just be aware. But at the price of the Obi, I went for it, did the porting to T-mobile first for free, then to Google Voice for $20... worth it so far, 2 months or so and going.
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#116
can i use fax (in 3-1 copier/scanner/fax brother machine) with this device?
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#117
I also feel it was higher earlier; now when I check most of the states show up as $3.71..I am still debating whether to get this one or not...

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Did the fees recently drop? My zip code only shows $3.71 in taxes and fees. I thought I had checked it before and it was in the five to six dollar range.
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#118
What did you do for your international calls; I wanted to ditch Vonage but I did not find any better alternative to use for international calls (around 2000 minutes a month) Smilie
If there is a cheaper alternative for international calls I would ditch Vonage next day ...

Quote from pug_ster View Post :
Last year I attempted to ditch Vonage for google voice for obihai/google voice. But I ended up going back to vonage because voice quality for international calls was terrible. This year I attempted to ditch vonage again for google voice and international calls seems to be fine. So I don't see what's so good about ooma anymore...
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Quote from mychaelp View Post :
You can hook the Obi to your phone jack in the wall, then plug all your other phones into the same jacks you used before. However, in my use, my cordless in the living room had a slight delay with all calls. Moved it closer to the Obi and fixed. My wiring may be to blame, but wanted to mention it. Obi is 100% free with Google Voice through the end of this year at least. But there is a e911 service for 0.80c/month you can get and I suggest it, as cell phones don't do 911 very well and accurately from what I've read. (others may have different information) The e911 does use normal phone lines and circuits, so you don't get the full 911 advantage I read about where in cases where phone lines are out of service, 911 will still work. Read something a few years ago that all VoiP providers had to notify customers about this. Just be aware. But at the price of the Obi, I went for it, did the porting to T-mobile first for free, then to Google Voice for $20... worth it so far, 2 months or so and going.

Thanks! So basically Obi is free as long as Google Voice is free.
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Thanks! So basically Obi is free as long as Google Voice is free.
Yes. Even if google voice does start charging, it won't be higher than Skype's $3/month unlimited plan.

Also, Google voice's international rates are 50% lower than Skype.
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