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I pulled the trigger...literally

41,172 2,080 June 19, 2013 at 01:09 PM in Finance
Bought my first firearm. Should pick it up at the dealer in a couple of days. Couldn't find one locally.

Springfield XDm 9mm. It felt best in my hand after shooting it, Glock 17 and 19, a Sig, and a couple of others.

It's my first gun, so don't give me a hard time about it being only a 9mm. Annoyed

Whee <--- anti-Podium spray

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dorkino
08-14-2013 at 08:07 AM.
08-14-2013 at 08:07 AM.
Quote from FeedMeAlmonds :
What state? It might be an open carry making such a scene legal like we were talking about above.

Georgia
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emelvee
08-14-2013 at 08:10 AM.
08-14-2013 at 08:10 AM.
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Georgia
The guy might have had an open carry permit. Apparently one is required in Georgia even to open carry. But you can carry in your car - open or even in the glove box - without a permit.
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08-14-2013 at 08:12 AM.
08-14-2013 at 08:12 AM.
Quote from emelvee :
The guy might have had an open carry permit. Apparently one is required in Georgia even to open carry. But you can carry in your car - open or even in the glove box - without a permit.

Just checked w/ georgiacarry.org. It appears you're allowed to carry openly here, but with the caveat that you should exercise discretion in doing so because freaking people out can lead to anti-firearm legislation.
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FeedMeAlmonds
08-14-2013 at 08:30 AM.
08-14-2013 at 08:30 AM.
Quote from emelvee :
The guy might have had an open carry permit. Apparently one is required in Georgia even to open carry. But you can carry in your car - open or even in the glove box - without a permit.

We're an open carry in Ohio, no permit required but you need a concealed license if you take your gun in a motor vehicle with you. That's why I ride a horse everywhere.
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08-19-2013 at 05:20 AM.
08-19-2013 at 05:20 AM.
Took the class on Saturday - 8 hours, with 1 hour for lunch and a couple of 10 minute breaks. Good instructor made it interesting and didn't seem too long. Enjoyed his real-world examples from being a cop and firearms instructor.

Written test here in NC is 20 questions, piece of cake: 16 true/false; 4 multiple choice. I got one wrong - stupid mistake as I went through it too quickly. I believe 70% is passing

I already qualified at the range earlier in the week and hit 100% of 40 shots. I think 70% is required to pass (instructor said 80%). I'd be scared of letting someone have a CCW that only hit 70% (or 80%) of his/her shots and only scored 70% on the test. Cold

Off to the Sheriff's office at lunch to drop off the paperwork, get fingerprinted, and pay my $92 (good for 5 years). Whee
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08-19-2013 at 05:58 AM.
08-19-2013 at 05:58 AM.
NC laws are changing to be more gun-friendly October 1, 2013. Permit holders will be able to concealed carry in bars and restaurants serving alcohol (the permit holder can't legally drink if carrying-I wouldn't want to be involved in a shooting if I had any alcohol in my system). Previously, one couldn't carry into an establishment where alcohol was sold and consumed (so before, a grocery store was ok, but not a bar). You will also be able to conceal carry into movie theaters and other places that charge admission (previously prohibited from any place that charged admission). You'll also be able to keep firearms in a locked vehicle on public school and university property.

A private business can always prohibit any weapons (concealed or not) if they choose to, by posting a sign conspicuously. I wonder if bars/restaurants will start putting up signs prohibiting guns once the law goes into effect. There is legislation being proposed to make an establishment liable if they prohibit weapons and a CCW permit holder is injured by gunfire in the business (the thinking here being the CCW holder should have been allowed to protect themselves, but the business should be held liable by not allowing self defense). Don't know if that legislation will go anywhere.
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Deusxmachina
08-19-2013 at 07:32 AM.
08-19-2013 at 07:32 AM.
Quote from emelvee :
Written test here in NC is 20 questions, piece of cake: 16 true/false; 4 multiple choice. I got one wrong - stupid mistake as I went through it too quickly.
Your carelessness is going to get someone killed! You'd probably shoot someone for taking your parking spot!

...gun grabbers would say.

Anyway, congratulations. One more good guy with a gun.
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08-19-2013 at 08:12 AM.
08-19-2013 at 08:12 AM.
Quote from emelvee :
Off to the Sheriff's office at lunch to drop off the paperwork, get fingerprinted, and pay my $92 (good for 5 years). Whee
I applied for my MA non-resident in January of this year. Still don't have it, but I've been told I am approved. $100/year.
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08-19-2013 at 08:16 AM.
08-19-2013 at 08:16 AM.
Play it safe & always bring a gun to knife fights
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Kabn
08-19-2013 at 08:55 AM.
08-19-2013 at 08:55 AM.
Quote from emelvee :
NC laws are changing to be more gun-friendly October 1, 2013. Permit holders will be able to concealed carry in bars and restaurants serving alcohol (the permit holder can't legally drink if carrying-I wouldn't want to be involved in a shooting if I had any alcohol in my system). Previously, one couldn't carry into an establishment where alcohol was sold and consumed (so before, a grocery store was ok, but not a bar). You will also be able to conceal carry into movie theaters and other places that charge admission (previously prohibited from any place that charged admission). You'll also be able to keep firearms in a locked vehicle on public school and university property.

A private business can always prohibit any weapons (concealed or not) if they choose to, by posting a sign conspicuously. I wonder if bars/restaurants will start putting up signs prohibiting guns once the law goes into effect. There is legislation being proposed to make an establishment liable if they prohibit weapons and a CCW permit holder is injured by gunfire in the business (the thinking here being the CCW holder should have been allowed to protect themselves, but the business should be held liable by not allowing self defense). Don't know if that legislation will go anywhere.
we can carry into restaurants where alcohol is served as long as at least 51% of their revenue is from food. i have no idea how we're technically supposed to find this out, but common sense can tell you that a Ruby Tuesday's sells more food than booze, and the "51% food revenue" seems to be pretty popular around here: it was also used to enforce a partial smoking ban in a local city before the blanket one came down.

there are very specific rules for what constitutes a valid No Weapons sign in this state (conspicuous place, at least 11"x14" total size, at least 1-inch solid letters), and the vast majority of shops which post them don't follow the rules. i only really pay attention to the places specifically listed in the law (bars, airports, hospitals, schools, etc.), and i'll still carry in bars every once in a while, but obviously never drink during those times.

not sure how i feel about the law making businesses liable for injuries to CCW holders in the event of an incident. of course, the purpose is to discourage owners from prohibiting weapons, but i'm not huge on encouraging more lawsuits.
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08-19-2013 at 09:38 AM.
08-19-2013 at 09:38 AM.
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we can carry into restaurants where alcohol is served as long as at least 51% of their revenue is from food. i have no idea how we're technically supposed to find this out, but common sense can tell you that a Ruby Tuesday's sells more food than booze, and the "51% food revenue" seems to be pretty popular around here: it was also used to enforce a partial smoking ban in a local city before the blanket one came down.

there are very specific rules for what constitutes a valid No Weapons sign in this state (conspicuous place, at least 11"x14" total size, at least 1-inch solid letters), and the vast majority of shops which post them don't follow the rules. i only really pay attention to the places specifically listed in the law (bars, airports, hospitals, schools, etc.), and i'll still carry in bars every once in a while, but obviously never drink during those times.

not sure how i feel about the law making businesses liable for injuries to CCW holders in the event of an incident. of course, the purpose is to discourage owners from prohibiting weapons, but i'm not huge on encouraging more lawsuits.
At the mall here in Winston-Salem, they have clear No Weapons signs at the main mall entrances. But 3 of the anchor department stores (Sears, Belk, Dillards) DO allow a person to carry - you just can't go into the main part of the mall.

I'm not much in favor of holding business liable in that situation either. I'd prefer to
"entice" them by not shopping/eating/whatever there if they prohibit. I don't imagine the liability issue would happen often. The business would have to prohibit carrying; there would have to be a shooting; a shooting victim would have to be a CCW permit holder. But I'm still more in favor of letting a business choose to allow/prohibit what they choose to.

Quote from Deusxmachina :
Your carelessness is going to get someone killed! You'd probably shoot someone for taking your parking spot!

...gun grabbers would say.

Anyway, congratulations. One more good guy with a gun.
60 to 90 days here for the permit to be processed.
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08-19-2013 at 09:41 AM.
08-19-2013 at 09:41 AM.
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I applied for my MA non-resident in January of this year. Still don't have it, but I've been told I am approved. $100/year.
In NC, only NC residents can get a CCW, and only in the county in which you reside. Though they recognize all other states' permitholders.
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Jabbit
08-19-2013 at 10:03 AM.
08-19-2013 at 10:03 AM.
Quote from emelvee :
In NC, only NC residents can get a CCW, and only in the county in which you reside. Though they recognize all other states' permitholders.
Hmm, that is an interesting way to do it. Wish it was that way around here.


A question - if a store has a sign that says "No CCW", is tt an actual crime/ticket/fine/whatever if you are carrying? Or can they just ask you to leave? I have always wondered that.
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08-19-2013 at 10:06 AM.
08-19-2013 at 10:06 AM.
Quote from Jabbit :
A question - if a store has a sign that says "No CCW", is tt an actual crime/ticket/fine/whatever if you are carrying? Or can they just ask you to leave? I have always wondered that.
Not a crime, the store can just ask you to leave. If they do and you don't, then it would be trespassing.
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08-19-2013 at 10:09 AM.
08-19-2013 at 10:09 AM.
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Not a crime, the store can just ask you to leave. If they do and you don't, then it would be trespassing.
That is what I figured. Go ahead and try it and let us know how it goes.
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