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So, in an attempt at keeping our discussion going about the ways in which we are trying to eat healthier/lose weight and be more active in our lives. I thought it would be nice to have a specific thread dedicating to encouraging and sharing tips and ideas for those of us yearning for a more active lifestyle.

We all may have differing opinions on games, consoles, and Curtie's analogies, however I think most of us can agree on the need for a more healthier lifestyle!

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Last Edited by Sokiru August 19, 2013 at 08:45 AM

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Squats are going to be your biggest payoff by far. Bench is one of the most useless lifts you can do especially in comparison to dead lifts, cleans and squats when you actually want to apply your strength to a sport/activity.
As far as whole body conditioning squats and cleans are the best but I don't know why some people hate on the bench press so much. Its a good upper body lift, especially if he's going nuts with the back exercises. I don't know why he'd neglect it.

You could replace bench with curls and I might agree.
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Keep working on those squats! Not much better out there for a full body exercise.Do you do any other olympic lifts? I've never been that great at them, but cleans are another total body workout.
power cleans and the snatch. I just love the snatch (pun intended).

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Squats are going to be your biggest payoff by far. Bench is one of the most useless lifts you can do especially in comparison to dead lifts, cleans and squats when you actually want to apply your strength to a sport/activity.

Yeah I know. Doesn't change the fact that squat is my least favorite movement. The bench is relatively useless in terms of applicable/fucntional strength. BUT, the bench is extremely important in terms of aesthetics (hypertrophy).

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You could replace bench with curls and I might agree.
Iagree Direct arm work is overrated. I still do it but it's not important.
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I thought bench was always considered a core lift because you really are engaging more than just arms/chest? It might not be total body like a squat or clean, but you do use your legs and such to stabilize yourself.
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Just finished a 2 mile run and feeling good!
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I thought bench was always considered a core lift because you really are engaging more than just arms/chest? It might not be total body like a squat or clean, but you do use your legs and such to stabilize yourself.
Well you shouldn't be getting your legs involved much but your lower back has to stabilize you. Plus its one of the best upper body exercises because it work your chest, shoulders and arms in one motion. You can hit most of your upper body by just doing bench and some type of rows.
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Just finished eating a pizza and feeling good! hug
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Just finished eating a pizza and feeling good! hug
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As far as whole body conditioning squats and cleans are the best but I don't know why some people hate on the bench press so much. Its a good upper body lift, especially if he's going nuts with the back exercises. I don't know why he'd neglect it.

You could replace bench with curls and I might agree.
The bench only works your upper arms and chest. It's also the most useless motion. When you do bench think of how your arms move then picture what other motions you do like that in any sport. If you're trying to attract the ladies and get swole then by all means go bump up your bench max as high as you can. If you're looking for useable strength there are much better ways to shape and tone.

Why would you think curls are not important? Forearms are one of the most neglected muscles in most exercises and not many motions incorporate strengthening them unless you're swimming or rowing constantly.
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I just wish I were kidding. Polished off a 10" personal pizza between noon and 4.

It's just so much better when it's hot.. drool
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I had 3 slices for lunch myself. yummy
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Well you shouldn't be getting your legs involved much but your lower back has to stabilize you. Plus its one of the best upper body exercises because it work your chest, shoulders and arms in one motion. You can hit most of your upper body by just doing bench and some type of rows.
Someone's been reading men's health.

Bench is not even close to one of the best workouts. Many workouts incorporate it as a means to strengthen your major pectoral muscles but still incorporate other workouts for arms/shoulders which is a waste. Most exercises that are going to stress your upper arms are going to do the same for your shoulders. You then should incorporate an isolation workout for chest or do a non horizontal push for the chest muscles. You gain very little with bench press on top of other workouts besides strengthening your arms, shoulders and chest for that specific motion.
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The bench only works your upper arms and chest. It's also the most useless motion. When you do bench think of how your arms move then picture what other motions you do like that in any sport. If you're trying to attract the ladies and get swole then by all means go bump up your bench max as high as you can. If you're looking for useable strength there are much better ways to shape and tone.

Why would you think curls are not important? Forearms are one of the most neglected muscles in most exercises and not many motions incorporate strengthening them unless you're swimming or rowing constantly.
I was a thrower through college, so the benching motion kind of applies. Same with linemen in football. Explosiveness off the chest can be important.
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Someone's been reading men's health.

Bench is not even close to one of the best workouts. Many workouts incorporate it as a means to strengthen your major pectoral muscles but still incorporate other workouts for arms/shoulders which is a waste. Most exercises that are going to stress your upper arms are going to do the same for your shoulders. You then should incorporate an isolation workout for chest or do a non horizontal push for the chest muscles. You gain very little with bench press on top of other workouts besides strengthening your arms, shoulders and chest for that specific motion.

Crylol

Isolations for strength gains? laugh out loud

You clearly know very little.....or have antiquated information.

And you fail to acknowledge an individuals goals when they do a bench press.

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The bench only works your upper arms and chest. It's also the most useless motion. When you do bench think of how your arms move then picture what other motions you do like that in any sport. If you're trying to attract the ladies and get swole then by all means go bump up your bench max as high as you can. If you're looking for useable strength there are much better ways to shape and tone.

Why would you think curls are not important? Forearms are one of the most neglected muscles in most exercises and not many motions incorporate strengthening them unless you're swimming or rowing constantly.

it also works shoulders. I agree that it's not the best bang for your buck in terms of total body but it is indeed the best bang for the buck for your chest. But it's also important to discuss this in the context of an individual's goals. I also agree that realtive to DL's and Squats they are the least important of the core lifts but again, personal goals have to be considered.

if you're looking for purely functional strength based aplications of the bench, I will agree with you. But to recommend isolations for strenght gains to the chest is laughable.

Regarding curls...once again, context is important. What are your goals? Functional strenght? Aesthetics? Strength in the context of powerlifting? In terms of fucntional strength curls can be somewhat important but not really. In terms of Aesthetics curls are very important. In the cotnext of a powerlifter, curls aren't that important. So basicaly curls comes down to aethetics which is akin to "getting swole" which you've mentioned in a somewhat derisive light. Interesting contradiction.

But then you talk about training forearms with curls? This makes me chuckle. Rowing is helpful but what about DL'ing without assistance (grips/straps)? DL'ing a THICK oly bar while never using gear of any sort will do wonders for forearm/grip strength. Way more so than curls (were you even serious with that?). Curls are an isolation movement that are meant to isolate your biceps. Sure, your forearms get worked too but not towards meaningful levels.
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Someone's been reading men's health.

Bench is not even close to one of the best workouts. Many workouts incorporate it as a means to strengthen your major pectoral muscles but still incorporate other workouts for arms/shoulders which is a waste. Most exercises that are going to stress your upper arms are going to do the same for your shoulders. You then should incorporate an isolation workout for chest or do a non horizontal push for the chest muscles. You gain very little with bench press on top of other workouts besides strengthening your arms, shoulders and chest for that specific motion.
I never read men's health and the general rule is that heavy compound exercises are the best followed by isolation exercises if you want to target you arms or something. I didn't get that from some article off the news stand this month, its pretty widely accepted. And I am not claiming its some kind of whole body miracle exercise. If you don't understand that having a strong chest, shoulders and tri's are important for lots of sports then I don't know what else to say. laugh out loud
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run 8 miles a day and do sit ups. Smilie
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