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NOTICE: Rules for posting deals from Amazon third-party sellers! - Updated 7/5/2016

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Greetings Slickdealers,

We are eliminating the need for the 1K merchant feedback.
All amazon deals are now allowed.



As always, mods have the right to remove threads at their discretion if they feel shilling is happening within.


Last year, we implemented a minimum 1,000+ store rating requirement for deals sold by Amazon third-party sellers. The goal of this requirement was to find a balance between allowing some third-party seller deals to appear on Slickdeals, while also protecting our users by maintaining a requirement that deals come from relatively reputable merchants. Lately however, we have seen that threshold gamed and abused, with many low quality deals posted to our forums. We noticed, by using some tools like Fakespot, many of these deals had dubious reviews - sometimes up to 90% of the reviews for a product were deemed suspicious.

Because of this, we are revising the guidelines for products sold by Amazon third-party sellers:
  • Must have a minimum 1,000+ store rating.
  • The product for sale must have at least 50 reviews.
  • At least 80% of those reviews must be deemed of acceptable quality through a tool like Fakespot (http://www.fakespot.com [fakespot.com]).
These guidelines go into effect immediately for all deals posted moving forward.

Moderators are going to remove deals that do not meet these requirements. *Note that sometimes, our deal editor's might make exceptions to these rules based on whether or not we feel comfortable trusting a merchant.

No Self-Promotion / Merchants Posted Deals
Please keep in mind that self-promotion rules are still in effect, so business owners, employees, or agencies should please refrain from posting and voting on their own deals. Rather, we encourage you to message a moderator or staff member to learn about other ways of working together with Slickdeals.

We are always looking to improve our community experience and we will evaluate if these guidelines address the issues in the coming months. If you have any questions or feedback, please chime in below.




UPDATE:

In lieu of Fakespot, Slickdeals relies on its proprietary tools and experienced editors to gauge the quality of deals. ~ Schooby
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In other words, spammers and profiteers should go away. And posters of dubious deals shouldn't bother. Bravo.
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The product for sale must have at least 50 reviews.
Well that is going to kill alot of deals Frown
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http://www.amazon.com/Fire-Displa...fire+phone

Funny how a Kindle Fire doesn't even pass the 80% Fakespot.
(23.3% low quality reviews detected, based on 37192 reviews)

Going to be tough for 3rd party to pass.
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What about freebies that don't cost me anything? Frown
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What about freebies that don't cost me anything?
I'm sure there will always be edge cases that need to be considered, but you can always ask a moderator or deal editor because they do have the discretion to allow exceptions.
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I'm sure there will always be edge cases that need to be considered, but you can always ask a moderator or deal editor because they do have the discretion to allow exceptions.
But most of them are removed before I could get to it...
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But most of them are removed before I could get to it...
I meant that from the context of the OP. We have to balance the spam from shilly, unreputable merchants.
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In other words, spammers and profiteers should go away. And posters of dubious deals shouldn't bother. Bravo.
But isnt that what ScamDeals is? Im not sure there would be anyone left if all the self-promoters were banned.

It's good you guys are pretending to try and clean up the site, but its not nearly enough. There is too much collusion and too many fake posts/TUs, FP scams going on etc. The site is faaaaaar from credible. Every time I read "in for 10" I want to puke.

To me, a Slickdeal should be defined as 50% off regular discounted price, not 50% off some fake MSRP, and not get 100 TUs for a 5% off gift card.

BRING BACK TRANSPARENCY.
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Hi, Bryant,
Thank you for the update.

I think this updated set of rules is wonderful for the Slickdeals community. Shilled deal threads and threads featuring products with biased reviews have run rampant in the Hot Deals forum.

Fakespot is an excellent starting tool. I must admit I'm pleasantly surprised to see that SD staff will implement rules using Fakespot's analyses. However, Fakespot isn't perfect and will sometimes return both false positives and negatives.

My guess is that many deals that have been promoted to the Frontpage in the past would not pass the criteria of "at least 80% of those reviews must be deemed of acceptable quality." Even SD fan favorites such as Anker and Poweradd are riddled with biased reviews, which many SD members do not seem to be aware.

These updated rules likely mean that SD will directly make less money, but I think many people and I feel a whole lot better because SD seems to be watching out for its members.

Thank you, SD staff,
Tofu Vic
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http://www.amazon.com/Fire-Display-Wi-Fi-GB-Special/dp/B00TSUGXKE/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1457126442&sr=8-4&keywords=fire+phone

Funny how a Kindle Fire doesn't even pass the 80% Fakespot.
(23.3% low quality reviews detected, based on 37192 reviews)

Going to be tough for 3rd party to pass.
Any response to this?
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Finally...!!!! :-)
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But isnt that what ScamDeals is? Im not sure there would be anyone left if all the self-promoters were banned.

It's good you guys are pretending to try and clean up the site, but its not nearly enough. There is too much collusion and too many fake posts/TUs, FP scams going on etc. The site is faaaaaar from credible. Every time I read "in for 10" I want to puke.

To me, a Slickdeal should be defined as 50% off regular discounted price, not 50% off some fake MSRP, and not get 100 TUs for a 5% off gift card.

BRING BACK TRANSPARENCY.
I guess by your own logic you must be a self-promoter Stick Out Tongue But these are the types of rules we're using to weed out some of the bad actors.

Are you here to just troll us in this thread as we try to address some of these issues? Or, do you have a constructive suggestion?

Our users post deals, and our users vote on deals, and we have systems in place to catch vote fraud, and our team can and have passed on deals because they look suspicious. However, the truth is your concept of a good deal isnt necessarily the same as other people's and this website is a community we have to manage expectations for everyone. Its pretty hard to argue against several hundred votes up on threads even if you dont like it. By definition you are a minority if you dislike deals that other people are voting up by the hundreds.

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Any response to this?
We'll monitor it, and we can revise the guidelines based on feedback, so let us know, but as I mentioned above:

I'm sure there will always be edge cases that need to be considered, but you can always ask a moderator or deal editor because they do have the discretion to allow exceptions.
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Any response to this?
This is a guideline, not a requirement. I'm sure someone will quote me about this in the future, but there are a couple of things that this item [amazon.com] has going for it.
  1. One, it has over 37K reviews, so even if only 76% of them are quality reviews, that's still about 28K reviews. Let's be discerning here - if a deal has 200 reviews and 74% of them are low quality, that's still not gonna fly.
  2. Second, this item is shipped and sold by Amazon. The guideline is for items not sold by Amazon directly, since that's where we've seen the most abuse. Obviously if all of a sudden, we see the same deplorable abuse from Amazon directly, then we'll have to reconsider the guidelines.
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