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next flagship phone dilemma

cheap_bastid 4,880 923 September 11, 2016 at 10:47 PM
I have a 2 year contract discount coming up on Verizon. I prefer large 5.5" or bigger smartphones. I'm not sure what phone best to get for use and resale later.

1. iPhone 7 Plus - I use the headphone jack a lot, and don't want an adapter, or want to use bluetooth. However iPhone 7 Plus may have best resale value.

2. Note 7 - Verizon version has crippling carrier bloatware, and not sure if the Verizon Note 7 has the LTE bands for AT&T or T-Mobile, unlike the iPhone.

3. LG V20 - really like the removable battery, wish it had the stylus like the Note. Not sure if it will have Verizon carrier bloat, and not sure if it will have the bands for AT&T / T-mobile.

Usually I buy the iPhone, use it for a while until I tire of it and sell it. Now it's not so cut and dry any more. I'd buy the Note 7 or LG V20 in a heartbeat if I knew it didn't have Verizon bloat and was compatible with all other carriers.

I'm leaning towards buying the LG V20 because I like the removable battery, and want to reward manufacturers for retaining useful features like that. I don't want to reward Apple for taking away another useful consumer feature (headphone... never had removable battery or expandable storage... boo).

Wondering what fellow smart phone aficionados think, and recommend.

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What plan are you on that still has a subsidy? You know that ..... baked into that subsidy's monthly fee is MORE than the cost of the phone, right? Furthermore, it seems all VZ's current plans are like ATT Next, where you pay MSRP but divided over the life of the contract (within a few cents).

That said, there isn't really a discount, so why not just go buy an unlocked version, perhaps used, and save $$?
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I have a 2 year contract discount coming up on Verizon. I prefer large 5.5" or bigger smartphones. I'm not sure what phone best to get for use and resale later.

1. iPhone 7 Plus - I use the headphone jack a lot, and don't want an adapter, or want to use bluetooth. However iPhone 7 Plus may have best resale value.

2. Note 7 - Verizon version has crippling carrier bloatware, and not sure if the Verizon Note 7 has the LTE bands for AT&T or T-Mobile, unlike the iPhone.

3. LG V20 - really like the removable battery, wish it had the stylus like the Note. Not sure if it will have Verizon carrier bloat, and not sure if it will have the bands for AT&T / T-mobile.

Usually I buy the iPhone, use it for a while until I tire of it and sell it. Now it's not so cut and dry any more. I'd buy the Note 7 or LG V20 in a heartbeat if I knew it didn't have Verizon bloat and was compatible with all other carriers.

I'm leaning towards buying the LG V20 because I like the removable battery, and want to reward manufacturers for retaining useful features like that. I don't want to reward Apple for taking away another useful consumer feature (headphone... never had removable battery or expandable storage... boo).

Wondering what fellow smart phone aficionados think, and recommend.
Even though the Verizon Note 7 has the general Verizon nonsense you can't uninstall, my Note 7 runs pretty damn smooth. I heard the bootloader is locked this time around, so i'm not sure when or if rooting will be possible.

The Note 7's display is top notch, like on another level. It really put my S6 to shame and that's a SAMOLED display as well. Not sure I could go back to a non OLED display phone after this.

I'd probably recommend the LG V20 if it came with an OLED display. Why do they keep using IPS?!?! The difference in manufacturing cost is like $10! The DAC in the V20 is supposed to be top notch, someone who listens to music all the time could appreciate it.

Bottom line though, if the removable battery is a must, LG is the only choice. Hopefully that changes with the Note 8.
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Even though the Verizon Note 7 has the general Verizon nonsense you can't uninstall, my Note 7 runs pretty damn smooth. I heard the bootloader is locked this time around, so i'm not sure when or if rooting will be possible.

The Note 7's display is top notch, like on another level. It really put my S6 to shame and that's a SAMOLED display as well. Not sure I could go back to a non OLED display phone after this.

I'd probably recommend the LG V20 if it came with an OLED display. Why do they keep using IPS?!?! The difference in manufacturing cost is like $10! The DAC in the V20 is supposed to be top notch, someone who listens to music all the time could appreciate it.

Bottom line though, if the removable battery is a must, LG is the only choice. Hopefully that changes with the Note 8.
The main arguments about the removable battery are by having it non-removable allows for better waterproofing and a thinner device.

Anyway, battery isn't much of a concern for me but having removable storage is a MUST which is why I skipped v6.
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The main arguments about the removable battery are by having it non-removable allows for better waterproofing and a thinner device.
I'd also add that a device with non-removable battery is less likely to turn off from a drop, bump, or similar event that jars the battery. It's not the most common problem ever, but my GS4 started to develop "loose" battery connectors, so putting the phone down hard on a counter/desk could turn off the phone once a day or so. Of course, there's no indication the phone is off until you try to wake it up later and realize you may have missed calls or texts that you never knew about.

Some people need to swap batteries frequently, but if you don't, I try to recommend integrated batteries for most users.
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Join me on the dark side. I'm switching to Project Fi by Google once the new nexus/pixel gets released. Should be 1-2 months out. Peace verizon!!!!
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What plan are you on that still has a subsidy? You know that ..... baked into that subsidy's monthly fee is MORE than the cost of the phone, right? Furthermore, it seems all VZ's current plans are like ATT Next, where you pay MSRP but divided over the life of the contract (within a few cents).

That said, there isn't really a discount, so why not just go buy an unlocked version, perhaps used, and save $$?
My family runs a business and has a business plan that offers 2 year contracts with subsidies. So I always take advantage of it and get new phones every 2 years. I used to always get the iPhone since iPhone 5s, since the Verizon iPhones are unlocked and worked on all carriers, so the resale is the highest. Now for the first time I find myself not wanting the iPhone any more.
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Even though the Verizon Note 7 has the general Verizon nonsense you can't uninstall, my Note 7 runs pretty damn smooth. I heard the bootloader is locked this time around, so i'm not sure when or if rooting will be possible.

The Note 7's display is top notch, like on another level. It really put my S6 to shame and that's a SAMOLED display as well. Not sure I could go back to a non OLED display phone after this.

I'd probably recommend the LG V20 if it came with an OLED display. Why do they keep using IPS?!?! The difference in manufacturing cost is like $10! The DAC in the V20 is supposed to be top notch, someone who listens to music all the time could appreciate it.

Bottom line though, if the removable battery is a must, LG is the only choice. Hopefully that changes with the Note 8.
Thanks. This article really turned me off about the Verizon Note 7 - http://www.droid-life.com/2016/08...od-reason/

I wish Samsung had the balls to tell Verizon to f*** off messing with their phones... then Samsung flagship phones would sell a lot more.

I will wait to see how bad Verizon messes up the LG V20 before deciding... ugh Verizon!! iPhone seems to be the only phone that Verizon can't really touch... shame.

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Join me on the dark side. I'm switching to Project Fi by Google once the new nexus/pixel gets released. Should be 1-2 months out. Peace verizon!!!!
I would LOVE me some Nexus / Google phone... but I want the expandable storage. Google stubbornly refusing to support expandable storage (even though Marshmellow supports it as native storage) is a huge shame, which is why I can never buy a Nexus / Google phone... Frown
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I'd also add that a device with non-removable battery is less likely to turn off from a drop, bump, or similar event that jars the battery. It's not the most common problem ever, but my GS4 started to develop "loose" battery connectors, so putting the phone down hard on a counter/desk could turn off the phone once a day or so. Of course, there's no indication the phone is off until you try to wake it up later and realize you may have missed calls or texts that you never knew about.

Some people need to swap batteries frequently, but if you don't, I try to recommend integrated batteries for most users.
That sucks to hear about the G4, along with the boot-loop problems. Seems like the G4 was a bad product line with lots of lemons, shame.

I've never had an LG flagship before, only Samsung or Apple flagships as recent daily drivers (long ago had HTC, Motorola, everything but LG)... I'm hoping the LG V20 won't have boot-loop issues or other issues if I do choose that.
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That sucks to hear about the G4, along with the boot-loop problems. Seems like the G4 was a bad product line with lots of lemons, shame.

I've never had an LG flagship before, only Samsung or Apple flagships as recent daily drivers (long ago had HTC, Motorola, everything but LG)... I'm hoping the LG V20 won't have boot-loop issues or other issues if I do choose that.
GS4, not G4. As in Galaxy S4. Sorry for any confusion.
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