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Remoting into one server from another one and transferring files.

ukiltmybrutha 326 October 18, 2016 at 03:24 PM
So I have one location about 150 miles away with a physical server that acts as a dedicated:

File Server
Backup Server
Media Server
Lab Server
P2P Server
Maybe even a Security Server for cams

The Physical Server will have access to the internet.

I'd like to do the following:

1) Remote into the server to perform administrative tasks.

2) Be able to transfer files from this location to the other location and vice versa. Move files from this location to that location so that they can be backed up.

For the RDP task, I'd imagine that this would be as simple as using port forwarding on port 3389 etc. and specifying IP address: X:X:X:X:3389 and RDPing in.

However, I am using Comcast rental modem/routers at both locations and there doesn't seem to be much to the GUI.

I have used TeamViewer as well, but that seemed unreliable to me e.g. TeamViewer server not loading, passwords and sessions seemingly changing on the fly....etc.

The part that has me baffled is the ability to transfer files back and forth.

I have been an IT guy for about 20 years and know that in theory you can (or could have used) FTP. 20 years ago everything was so hard and buggy.

I remember 20 yrs ago looking at something called CuteFTP, realizing that nothing was cute about it and then turning my back on it lol!

In my experience, copying and pasting (especially larger files) via RDP was just a recipe to hang windows explorer.

Any ideas how I can accomplish both goals?

Thank you!

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...For the RDP task, I'd imagine that this would be as simple as using port forwarding on port 3389 etc. and specifying IP address: X:X:X:X:3389 and RDPing in.

However, I am using Comcast rental modem/routers at both locations and there doesn't seem to be much to the GUI.

I have used TeamViewer as well, but that seemed unreliable to me e.g. TeamViewer server not loading, passwords and sessions seemingly changing on the fly....etc.

The part that has me baffled is the ability to transfer files back and forth.

I have been an IT guy for about 20 years and know that in theory you can (or could have used) FTP. 20 years ago everything was so hard and buggy.

I remember 20 yrs ago looking at something called CuteFTP, realizing that nothing was cute about it and then turning my back on it lol!
FTP is pretty insecure. I wouldn't recommend it.
Exposing RDP to the internet can be pretty dangerous too. By default, windows does nothing to throttle attempts to brute force your password (you can change this in your secpol). There have also been some major bugs in RDP.


Teamviewer is far from perfect but can be made fairly secure. You can sign up for an account and change settings to allow remote access with a password that stays the same.


The best option would be to setup (a) VPN server(s).
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The part that has me baffled is the ability to transfer files back and forth.
Rsync over SSH. You just need to learn a couple of commands and you will have secure, passwordless transfers that can be paused, resumed, automated etc.

The benefit of using the extra rsync layer is if you have large file transfers it will only copy the deltas over
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Rsync over SSH. You just need to learn a couple of commands and you will have secure, passwordless transfers that can be paused, resumed, automated etc.

The benefit of using the extra rsync layer is if you have large file transfers it will only copy the deltas over
rysnc over ssh is a good too option. You can also SSH tunnel and use other protocols including things like RDP.


A VPN is a good option too. There are some cases where ssh tunneling is easier and some where vpn is easier.
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teamviewer will work fine you can set up a static code and password. You can use any file sharing service and use 7 zip to zip all the files into one large zip then cut the zip into pieces so you can upload then once the first is uploaded you can start the download.

You are going to want to get comcast business if not your upload speeds will not be very good at all.
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You just need to go into TeamViewer options, select "Advanced", then in the "Advanced settings for connections to this computer" and change the "Random password after each session" to "Keep current".

I would suggest that you FIRST go to "Security" and change "Password Strength" to Very secure. The default passwords are just a few characters, but the default setting is that the password changes each time TeamViewer starts.

Next, you must stop telling others that you "have been an IT guy for about 20 years ". Wink
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I agree with Komondor and HarryH3 but upload speeds are slow. You might consider uploading at your leisure to a service like Dropbox for download later.
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I agree with Komondor and HarryH3 but upload speeds are slow. You might consider uploading at your leisure to a service like Dropbox for download later.

Same comment. TV transfers have always been PAINFULLY slow for me, which is why I don't do them anymore.
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rysnc over ssh is a good too option. You can also SSH tunnel and use other protocols including things like RDP.


A VPN is a good option too. There are some cases where ssh tunneling is easier and some where vpn is easier.
vpn is the better option. I must've missed it somewhere but I assume this box is a windows box since he was discussing RDP. Either way he can still setup an ftp server too.

Depending on the locations upload spd, dropbox account(or something similar) would still be vary.
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You need to go for a business class or symmetrical service, check for other business options. If you give the city you could get more help.

Something like this could be cost effective and provide the speed you need

http://www.centurylink.com/busine...s-vpn.html
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Either way he can still setup an ftp server too.
He could if doesn't care about passwords being sent in plain text over the internet
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IF running consumer class connections I doubt you can expose your RDP port to the web which is a good thing since an open RDP server on the internet will get hammered all day long by things trying to get in. You also have the problem of a dynamic IP address to deal with. If going RDP you really want a VPN not an open RDP server online.

I used to use Teamviewer but dumped it earlier this year after all the security concerns the company never really addressed. Chrome has a decent remote connection app that I have been using personally that works well enough. Professionally we use Screenconnect which is one of the best remote softwares I have used but it's far from free.

As far as syncing files would something like Bittorrent Sync work? They have renamed their brand to resilio. Syncthing is an open source similar program https://syncthing.net/
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He could if doesn't care about passwords being sent in plain text over the internet
thats what the vpn connection would be for.
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Ok, screw it. Since the bandwidth isn't known than yeah, your only solution depending on the amt of files you need to uploade is something similar dropbox or amazon...
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You guys are awesome. Reading it all and getting it figured out. I'll stop trolling people when I am six feet under LOL. Smilie

Oh BTW this is a Windows box.
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