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*OFFICIAL RINGPLUS THREAD/DISCUSSION* PSA: Ring Plus plans discontinued?

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Ugh. What is everyone switching to? Red pocket?Mad


FROM RED RANGER

Ok, wiki is locked, so I'll just post how to get your account info needed for porting out of RP here:

Go to ringplus.net and log onto your phone account,
Click the "manage device" circle midway down page,
On the right side of page, click "Port Your Old Number",
In the upper right hand corner, click on "Port Out Information",
Window will pop open with your porting info, copy or print this info and give this exact info to your new carrier.

https://social.ringplus.net/discussion/9288

Dear Members,

My apologies for not addressing you earlier. I know many of you expected me to comment sooner.

While my team and I have finished long negotiations with different parties, other negotiations are still ongoing. Those negotiations are protected under nondisclosure agreements and, therefore, cannot be shared with our Members. We apologize for this circumstance as it seems to go against our mission as an open and free-spirited telecom community. Please rest assured that my team and I always try to negotiate in the best interests of all our Members.

Lets start with the facts:

1) RingPlus is switching technology. We must do so because of technological reasons of which we have been made aware.

2) RingPlus is developing new technologies (including a Smart and VoIP Dialer applications) to replace the decommissioned technologies. The new technologies will be available soon. However, they are not yet ready.

3) As a result of the technology switch, we are now sure that we will have to move everyone to a "Mad" plan because we cannot run both technologies at the same time (we had expected to be able to run both up until now).

4) In addition, RingPlus has missed its projected Member growth over the past two quarters, leaving us with less than 120,000 Members. A minimum of 500,000 Members is necessary to gain the advertisement revenue predicted to reach the break-even level.

The actions we are required to take now:

1) We are in the final stages of our negotiation with other MVNOs (sorry, names are confidential) which will introduce our in-call radio and ad platform to their subscribers. This combined volume of audience will bring us well over the 500,000 Member mark (closer to over a million Members), which will allow the advertisement system to generate enough money to sustain Free Plans on which you currently (or have) been activated.

2) We must change technology. The technological change will not only reduce the in-call latency that many Members experience, but will also offer a platform agnostic version of our in-call apps, radio station, and advertisement platform. The platform and carrier agnostic (CDMA-VoIP-SIM) versions of our in-call applications & RingBack Tone Radio Stations are a pre-requisite to bring other MVNOs and VoIP carriers on board as well as to overcome the unforeseen technological problem.

3) We now offer the lowest-cost, self-sustainable paid cell plans in the industry which give all of our current Members a safe choice, and attracts new Members.

4) Due to the fact that we have not been able to increase the audience to the required threshold of 500,000 Members or above, we had to agree to adjust the free plan allotment closer to our competitors. RingPlus is still leading in its allotments of free service.

5) With the launch of the application and its availability on other MVNO's and carriers, we will not only return to, but supersede, the prior level of free plan allotments as the combined subscriber level is now large enough.

6) I understand your disappointment as every one hoped for better allotments and that plans will stay forever and only change for the better. Multiple unforeseeable market conditions outside of our control and other circumstances caused from third parties required us to reallocate funds, including funds from marketing efforts, multiple times, ending in the sad result that we did not achieve our goal. Based on our negotiations with all involved parties and future partners, we came to the conclusion that this outlined course will be the only solution for our Members which will allow the continued offering of free plans without any interruptions during the system switch.

7) In the meantime, RingPlus is asking all Members on affected plans to change to our alternate technology currently available. This technology is in operation, and routes all wireless phone services directly over the Sprint Nationwide Network. However, this technology does not offer RingPlus the possibility to provide the discounted plans with high allotments supported by playing interactive sponsored content to you (e.g., advertisements and music) which RingPlus was previously able to offer you.

8) Sadly, it was communicated to us today that it is not possible to further sustain the high allotment plans until the combined audience threshold of 500,000 is reached. Starting December 1, 2016, all Plans that are not Mad Plans will not renew at the end of their billing cycle. Members can change to any of the currently offered plans from our website. For Members whose plans were not renewed, we will offer the possibility of a 7-day Holding Plan. All Members whose plans are set to renew on or after December 1, 2016, will automatically be switched to the 7-day Holding Plan at the end of their billing cycle. The end result will be that all non-Mad Plans will be discontinued by January 1, 2017, which will give our IT department the possibility to switch to the new system, and to start the combined offering with our future partners as soon as possible. This quick action is required based on negotiations with 3rd parties. Once the new technology is launched, RingPlus will once again be able to offer discounted plans with high allotments supported by playing interactive sponsored content to you (e.g., advertisements and music).

Additional information:

1) The free temporary holding plan will have limited allotments of 200 minutes, 200 texts, 200 MMS, and 200 MB LTE (full speed). Please note that overages will not be possible on the free temporary holding plan (e.g., if you use all of your allotment of data, it will just stop) so that there will not be any surprise overages.

2) For those Members with feature phones, we are in negotiations for a solution. Until a solution is found, they are welcome to use the CDMA portion of the voice minutes without the requirement of downloading an application or dialer.

3) Of course, when a plan is changed, the top up balance will remain intact. For details on each plan, please see the plan's details on RingPlus Social.

4) You will still have access to your current voicemail system while you are on the free temporary holding plan. Please note that the currently available plans (other than the free temporary holding plan) will have a new voicemail system.

5) In call applications will not be available on our currently offered plans until our new technology (including a Smart and VoIP Dialer applications) will be offered. If you chose to switch to one of our lowest priced paid plans in the U.S. currently offered on our website, you will be able to download the dialers when they become available (to be able to get the new series of plans supported by the new technology to provide the discounted plans with high allotments supported by playing interactive sponsored content to you (e.g., advertisements and music)).

6) Phone Swaps will be free starting Wensday until further notice

We apologize for the inconvenience, and thank you for your patience, understanding and support.

RingPlus will continue to offer new promotions throughout this technology transition, and we will update you about the development of our new technologies.

We look forward to the great future free and paid plan offerings (as well as the added functionalities) that will be possible with our new technologies, and we hope you do, too.

Best Regards,

Karl Seelig

RingPlus, CEO


---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- UPDATE

Minimum existing topup to avoid additional topup when downgrading:
Mad Oak, if still an option for anyone: $5.01
Mad Fiesta: $2.00
Mad Plum: $5.01

I would not expect R+ to make any exceptions for anyone even just $0.01 under the required amount.

Why people see different options under Upgrade:
I believe your current plan "status" determines what you see when you press the "Upgrade" button.

If you have been ALREADY moved into a/the Holding plan, you might see more options, like Mad Fiesta, or possibly even Mad Oak.
If NOT already in Holding, I believe you only see Mad Pop and Mad Plum.
If you WAIT till you are moved to Holding plan, you MAY see more options become available. For example, has anyone -- after Nov 20 -- first seen only Map Pop and Mad Plum, but after moving into Holding plan, seen the Mad Fiesta option?
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Last Edited by finzz2dlft November 21, 2016 at 10:27 PM
Mod note: wiki has been locked due to abuse.


Please be advised: there is mass censoring and banning going on at social.ringplus.net forums

If you are not happy with CEO Karl's abrupt cancellation and silence, then sign the petition SUCCESS: WE GOT ALMOST 150 SIGNATURES – CHANGE.ORG WILL SEND AN EMAIL OUT TO Karl Seelig at



kseelig@ringplus.net – Krooked Karl CANT IGNORE THIS .




Important things to take-home are:

0) R+ "ethical committee" mods are banning about anything negative even if it's realistic. Bottom line about R+'s future are as followed:

- Unless he is very certain that he will sign agreements with other MVNOs, Karl is being reckless promising with certainty that future allotments will be higher than before. And these statements may well be reckless even if they do sign considering he knew in October this was going to happen yet lied that plans wouldn't be cancelled (see below) and continued to advertise high data/text/minute plans in late October 2016.
- High allotments were being given out based on the promise of 500,000 subscribers
- R+ only got to 120,000 subscribers
- Karl full well knew about this shortfall in late October when he claimed that people would be able to keep their high allotments. And he had to have had an idea of the shortfall and eventual implications when bringing out ever increasing allotment plans that required upgrade fees and high top ups
- The crucial thing for R+'s future is having 500,000+ subscribers which is now only possible through negotiations with other MVNOs
- There was a post on reddit that was deleted that suggested there was talk between AT&T, Cricket and R+.
- Karl is claiming to be very close to securing deals with MVNOs
- If R+ fail in getting to 500,000 subscribers, does it mean a) no increase in allotments or b) no more R+ as we know it?


1) Starting December 1, 2016, Ringplus says: "all Plans that are not Mad Plans will not renew at the end of their billing cycle. Members can change to any of the currently offered plans from our website. For Members whose plans were not renewed, we will offer the possibility of a 7-day Holding Plan. All Members whose plans are set to renew on or after December 1, 2016, will automatically be switched to the 7-day Holding Plan at the end of their billing cycle."
2) New plans are significantly downgraded.
3) R+ Voicemail was removed (no more transcriptions or text alerts), and is now a $1.50/month charge
4) R+ CEO claims that it needed 500,000 users to break even, and is the reason why it is failing.
5) If you have less than $5 in your top-up balance, you may have to pay another top up of $15-20 or more depending on plan chosen.
6) YOU SHOULD MAKE AT LEAST 2-3 PHONE CALLS EVERY 60 DAYS AS PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CANCELLED FOR ONLY MAKING 1 CALL EVERY 60 DAYS. THEIR NEW TOS SAYS: "If you do not make calls using your Free Plan for 60 days, RingPlus may, in its sole discretion and without notice, expire, suspend, terminate or downgrade your Service."
7) If you care about your phone number or need reliable service, look into Ting, Project Fi, Cricket, or prepaid plans like Straight Talk, or PagePlus.

Professional Tips

A) IF YOU ARE UPSET & WANT TO CANCEL RING+, YOU CAN DO A CREDIT CHARGEBACK, IT WILL COST R+ $25 NO MATTER WHAT. If you have recently invested in ringplus and feel you have been cheated, contact your credit card company. Some users report being able to have charges reversed that were up to a year old.
B) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rin...troversies
C) You can file complaints on: BBB [bbb.org] and the FCC [fcc.gov]


SLICKDEALERS NEED TO CONTACT AND PM ALL MODS TO NEVER ALLOW R+ THREADS ON SD EVER AGAIN
THIS THREAD SHOULD BE THE LAST THREAD OPEN FOR R+
THIS IS THE 2ND TIME R+ HAS DONE THIS.








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Who would have guessed? J/K
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Mad Plans are highly preferable anyway (as long as you don't get one with a "research" data plan that throttles you to 128kb.
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1 year from now = RIP Ring Plus
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Is Mad Fiesta Free going to be offered?
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a bit sooner than I thought. now for those of you all that own good smart phones, which other Sprint MVNO are you choosing?
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I know I'm gonna get beat up for this but the mad plum doesn't look that bad
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can we switch to freedom pop with these phones? I have an S5
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I actually expected to read something more dire. *shrug*
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can we switch to freedom pop with these phones? I have an S5
yes. . . .
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well, that sucks.

At least give us some reasonable pay plan.
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Mad Brisket Surf under negotiation??

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If you are on a club sandwich plan please wait for tomorrows announcement.
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Last week i almost bought a new phone for ringplus- glad i did not. i have two other accounts through freedompop and i have has zero trouble from them and never a bill. Today i ordered a galaxy5 and will start another freedompop account.
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