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Shopping for a washing machine sucks! Help me pick

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I need to buy a washing machine but finding the "right one" is overwhelming.

As of now I'm pretty set against a front loader because I have seen multiple places that say they break fairly quickly in a way that requires you to replace the entire drum which is like $300+. Apparently they also have drain issues (different than moldy door issues?) with water staying in the tub when the load is done

I want to go with a top loader. At first it seemed like a Maytag Bravos was the way to go when I saw several people recommend them (in various front load washer deals on this site). I started to research different models. I was going to get the MVWB755DW from Whirlpool Inside Pass but I think it's discontinued (can't find it on their site anymore). MVWB835DW is still in most stores and gets overall good scores, but the 11 reviews on Consumer Reports all kill this machine.

I think there is a Whirlpool Cabrio that is similar to the 835 (wtw8000dw or wtw8500dw?) but this has a lot of similar complaints about clothes not being clean, coming out with dry spots as if water never touched the area, etc.

Are all HE top loaders like this?

I then found the Maytag MVWB765FW. It has an agitator but is a huge 4.7 cu. ft. Is this a good way to go? Is this still an energy efficient washing machine? It's hard to tell if agitator is better than non-agitator because all of the review sites say agitator washers are more harsh on your clothes, use more water, and don't clean as well but then many many reviews say the opposite (at least for the cleaning claims)

Any thoughts or other recommendations?

edit: I see plenty of people recommend Speed Queen because of how reliable they are but it looks like they have very few models available and they're all VERY small. Do they make larger washing machines?

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You can literally over think and over spend on something like a washer and dryer fairly easily. I know because I went through this with the new house a number of years ago.

Along with being a pita to repair, the front loaders also cost significantly more and when you factor in that water is cheap, why worry about it? One needs water to clean clothes. I ended up getting a GE profile top loader washer with stainless steel tub that had good reviews, was on sale at the time at HD along with a 10% off coupon and had a rebate attached to it for my place. Decent but nothing super special and it is still working fine. It has an agitator and I have never really had any issues with stuff not getting clean or clothes getting damaged. Obviously if you overload it it will not clean as well.

As to spending on the high end top loaders....depends on your needs but imo many of the extra cycles and features are rarely if ever used and you end up paying for stuff that really is not needed. And the water saving aspects of it are meaningless imo as water is cheap. Who really cares if you waste a 100 extra gallons of water a month?...going to cost you under a dollar.


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I urge you to reconsider a front load washer.
http://www.consumersearch.com/was...oad-washer
They can wash more kinds of things, like dog beds, comforters, pillows, and other bulky stuff without destroying them.
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I urge you to reconsider a front load washer.
http://www.consumersearch.com/was...oad-washer
They can wash more kinds of things, like dog beds, comforters, pillows, and other bulky stuff without destroying them.
I do know I've read "professional reviews" that front loaders clean the best, are the most gentle on clothes, and use the least amount of water but so many people say their clothes smell like mildew, their whites get dingy, and when they break it's incredibly expensive to repair.
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I do know I've read "professional reviews" that front loaders clean the best, are the most gentle on clothes, and use the least amount of water but so many people say their clothes smell like mildew, their whites get dingy, and when they break it's incredibly expensive to repair.

The proponents have to justify the expense. If you think about it, man has washed clothes in top loaders for decades (and buckets for centuries before that) and clothes survived just fine and came out clean. All the talk about saving water, energy and the like is just that imo.

Bottom line is a regular washer will get your clothes clean and work just fine as long as you buy a decent one and use it properly. And you have none of the concerns you mentioned above in play. And given that water is cheap, many top loaders are energy efficient and the cost of one is significantly less than the front loaders, it really comes down to plain old common sense and bang for the buck imo. Don't over-analyze. It is washing clothes not sending a man to the moon and there is really no reason to spend significantly more to save a few gallons of water or worry about if your king sized comforter can more easily be washed in it imo.

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I do know I've read "professional reviews" that front loaders clean the best, are the most gentle on clothes, and use the least amount of water but so many people say their clothes smell like mildew, their whites get dingy, and when they break it's incredibly expensive to repair.
A lot of that can be mitigated, my parents have had one for 10+ years and when it died they replaced it with another. They keep the door open when not in use so it won't get musty and wipe out the seal around the door often when in use. They also end up using a different kind of soap because it builds up residue. Most people use way to much soap then is needed especially if you have soft water.

I know repairs can be expensive but it depend on what goes wrong too. Extended warranties are may be worth it if it's the cost of 1 service call. I know with my top loader I bought the extended warranty and got my moneys worth because I had to replace the plastic console that held the knobs. It was like $300 part if I had to buy it just insane.
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A lot of that can be mitigated, my parents have had one for 10+ years and when it died they replaced it with another. They keep the door open when not in use so it won't get musty and wipe out the seal around the door often when in use. They also end up using a different kind of soap because it builds up residue. Most people use way to much soap then is needed especially if you have soft water.

I know repairs can be expensive but it depend on what goes wrong too. Extended warranties are may be worth it if it's the cost of 1 service call. I know with my top loader I bought the extended warranty and got my moneys worth because I had to replace the plastic console that held the knobs. It was like $300 part if I had to buy it just insane.
What is the soap they use? Liquid or powder? A particular brand that is better for machines?
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I think you should just go outside and beat the clothes with a rock in a puddle
Then use the garden hose and rinse them until tomorrow.

saving anything is overrated

On the other hand

I have 2 sets of front loaders. Replaced my LG with Samsung and took the LG to Florida house.
My LG's are better than the Samsung unit. I'm talking washers....a dryer is a dryer kinda
LG dryer had a better sensor to detect when clothes were dry.
Samsung leaves a tad damp.

LG washer spun clothes better and took less time to dry
Samsung I have to do extra spin

Wife uses way too much liquid soap

Our clothes never come out smelling like mold even though its had some nasty mold in the dispenser drawer. Both units have done that...that's the reason if I had room, I would buy HE top loader and just use the dryer I had.
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I think you should just go outside and beat the clothes with a rock in a puddle
Then use the garden hose and rinse them until tomorrow.

saving anything is overrated

On the other hand

I have 2 sets of front loaders. Replaced my LG with Samsung and took the LG to Florida house.
My LG's are better than the Samsung unit. I'm talking washers....a dryer is a dryer kinda
LG dryer had a better sensor to detect when clothes were dry.
Samsung leaves a tad damp.

LG washer spun clothes better and took less time to dry
Samsung I have to do extra spin

Wife uses way too much liquid soap

Our clothes never come out smelling like mold even though its had some nasty mold in the dispenser drawer. Both units have done that...that's the reason if I had room, I would buy HE top loader and just use the dryer I had.
I'm on the same thinking when it comes to dryers. All I care about is that I can choose different heat settings and I can manually pick my own time. I'm not much for a dry sensor. I was able to get a Kenmore 8.8 cu ft dryer for $260 (said regular price was $1200) from Sears Outlet because it had a few scuffs on the front.

Top loaders are larger than front loaders? I would think if one could fit so could the other (of a similar size of course). But I do find it interesting that you have had two front loaders and would still prefer a top loader. Is that only because of the gunk in the dispenser? (you're talking about the drawer that you put the soap into which then feeds it to the load of clothes right?)
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I'm on the same thinking when it comes to dryers. All I care about is that I can choose different heat settings and I can manually pick my own time. I'm not much for a dry sensor. I was able to get a Kenmore 8.8 cu ft dryer for $260 (said regular price was $1200) from Sears Outlet because it had a few scuffs on the front.

Top loaders are larger than front loaders? I would think if one could fit so could the other (of a similar size of course). But I do find it interesting that you have had two front loaders and would still prefer a top loader. Is that only because of the gunk in the dispenser? (you're talking about the drawer that you put the soap into which then feeds it to the load of clothes right?)
Correct.
Our front loaders are stacked in the hall closet. Wife won't do the basement anymore.
Bought the Samsungs thinking it was an LG problem. Took the LG to Florida when neighbor moved and had room.

I can do 15+ full size bath towels in the front loader and the sensor still tells me 1/2 full

I set "My Cycle" to do cold water and extra spin. It takes 54min
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Our front loaders are stacked in the hall closet. Wife won't do the basement anymore.
Bought the Samsungs thinking it was an LG problem. Took the LG to Florida when neighbor moved and had room.

I can do 15+ full size bath towels in the front loader and the sensor still tells me 1/2 full

I set "My Cycle" to do cold water and extra spin. It takes 54min
Ah I didn't think of requiring a stackable washer. How long have you had your front loaders? No repairs needed on them?
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What is the soap they use? Liquid or powder? A particular brand that is better for machines?
Definitively a liquid, all modern machines are designed for liquid. Can't tell you a brand, it's no a mainstream product like Tide, All etc.
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I have had a Whirlpool Cabrio for 10 years it is like a front loader only standing up. It had an issue that Whirlpool fixed under a recall/warranty otherwise we have had no issues and run loads 4-5 times a week all different kinds of stuff, throw rugs, dog beds anything that will fit pretty much.

Find your nearest scratch and dent store see what they have on hand.

Attached is pic of the front of my washer it has a clear glass lid which is nice. I am sure the model has changed in 10 years.
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Ah I didn't think of requiring a stackable washer. How long have you had your front loaders? No repairs needed on them?
about 5 or 6 years. HD ran a sale, $400 each. That's when we decided to move them upstairs. I paid $700 each for the Samsung and didn't get anything over the LG

Note: The LG you could read the controls on the dryer when stacked.
The Samsung tilts back which makes it harder to see when stacked.
I'm 6' and and can't see the top 3 settings
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Might be worth the $6.95 investment: http://web.consumerreports.org/wa...index.html
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