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Amazon.com [amazon.com] has for their Prime Members: SP-FS52 Andrew Jones Designed Floor standing Loudspeaker on sale for $89.99 once item is in check out with Prime savings. 2 day free Prime shipping.

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Last Edited by MadPup February 4, 2017 at 10:12 AM
He started out working as a research engineer for KEF, then moved on to Infinity and later rose to prominence at TAD, where he designed the $80,000 Reference One speakers. Audiophiles the world over (including me) hailed the Reference One as one of the greatest speakers of all time.
More recently he crafted the super-affordable Andrew Jones Pioneer speakers and sound bars.

Chatting with Legendary Speaker Designer Andrew Jones [tested.com]

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You must not be familiar with this series.. And yes you need a subwoofer, idt they were ever advertised as not needing one
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Sorry, are you a speaker or audio engineer? If not, maybe you should do some research on your own before asking questions like this. Driver size is only one of many specifications considered when using it in a speaker. Speaker design is very complicated and what would appear to be "common sense" questions like yours rarely are.

These speakers are designed to a price point and can't be expected to go down to the lowest octave. And FWIW, Andrew Jones is a renowned audio engineer and has been in the industry for years.
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wow all the hate is hilarious. people calling these "budget" speakers, etc. If you have a room dedicated to home theater and a spouse that is willing to let that go...and several grand...then why bother even show up on this thread? Take your knowledge elsewhere. This is from an outstanding group of speakers that, with a receiver to power them, will cost you over $1k. Plenty of sub-par systems can be purchased for much less...those should be considered "budget". There isn't much budget about $1k for HT. These are very high rated speakers for this $1k HT system price point, and you'll need to spend quite a bit more to top them. If you are one who spends more, then simply move on and leave the rest of us to spread our money around to other hobbies also.
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decent price, but I have to question the wisdom of a three-way speaker design with four drivers where three appear to be identical. I don't see how a 5.25" woofer can be good at both mid-range and bass reproduction. I could not find the specs for these anywhere on the amazon page, but I did find a PDF on the pioneer site [pioneerelectronics.com]:

Frequency Range - 40 Hz-20 kHz
Nominal Impedance - 6Ω
Sensitivity (2.83 V) - 87 dB
Maximum Input Power - 130 W
Crossover Frequency - 250 Hz & 3 kHz

nothing impressive there. 40Hz is not low enough for proper bass reproduction in a home theater setup, you would need a subwoofer to go with these. Also not very power efficient. should be fine for general stereo music reproduction.
You must not be familiar with this series.. And yes you need a subwoofer, idt they were ever advertised as not needing one
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decent price, but I have to question the wisdom of a three-way speaker design with four drivers where three appear to be identical. I don't see how a 5.25" woofer can be good at both mid-range and bass reproduction.
Sorry, are you a speaker or audio engineer? If not, maybe you should do some research on your own before asking questions like this. Driver size is only one of many specifications considered when using it in a speaker. Speaker design is very complicated and what would appear to be "common sense" questions like yours rarely are.

These speakers are designed to a price point and can't be expected to go down to the lowest octave. And FWIW, Andrew Jones is a renowned audio engineer and has been in the industry for years.
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Sorry, are you a speaker or audio engineer? If not, maybe you should do some research on your own before asking questions like this. Driver size is only one of many specifications considered when using it in a speaker. Speaker design is very complicated and what would appear to be "common sense" questions like yours rarely are.

These speakers are designed to a price point and can't be expected to go down to the lowest octave. And FWIW, Andrew Jones is a renowned audio engineer and has been in the industry for years.
In fairness, he was correct that the efficiency is not very good. An 87dB efficiency rating is decent for every day speakers, but is not very impressive for HiFi audio equipment. It will take a lot of power to drive these to a very high listening level for those that enjoy blowing their ear drums out.
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I can't think of why you wouldn't want a sub anyhow. Even in my cramped apartment I've got one. (Well, two if you count my computer speakers as well.)

I admit I have no experience with these specifically, but they seem decent on paper and they're a good chunk off of retail. Can't beat that. They're not meant as an end all/be all though. No $100 speaker is.
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decent price, but I have to question the wisdom of a three-way speaker design with four drivers where three appear to be identical. I don't see how a 5.25" woofer can be good at both mid-range and bass reproduction. I could not find the specs for these anywhere on the amazon page, but I did find a PDF on the pioneer site [pioneerelectronics.com]:

Frequency Range - 40 Hz-20 kHz
Nominal Impedance - 6Ω
Sensitivity (2.83 V) - 87 dB
Maximum Input Power - 130 W
Crossover Frequency - 250 Hz & 3 kHz

nothing impressive there. 40Hz is not low enough for proper bass reproduction in a home theater setup, you would need a subwoofer to go with these. Also not very power efficient. should be fine for general stereo music reproduction.
In what world would anyone expect a 5" driver to hit below 40hz? Do you just assume because it's a floorstanding speaker it should be a full range speaker? And as others have mentioned, a sub is pretty much a requirement in a home theater setup. Even towers with a built in powered subs usually get augmented with a standalone.
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In fairness, he was correct that the efficiency is not very good. An 87dB efficiency rating is decent for every day speakers, but is not very impressive for HiFi audio equipment. It will take a lot of power to drive these to a very high listening level for those that enjoy blowing their ear drums out.
That may be true. Most of my equipment is vintage (read 1990s and earlier) and 87dB would have been considered good for high quality speakers. I did do a quick look around and I see that many new speakers have well over 90dB sensitivity.

However, in an average-size room with a decent quality receiver, these should give you more than enough volume with headroom to spare.
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price in the title would be nice
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Thanks for the heads up, just picked up a pair
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stop wasting your time with any budget speakers, get yourself some behringer b215xl
Ignore this person.
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