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This guitar is $499 at Guitar Center at other online retailers. I played it yesterday and it seriously blew away the Gibsons that were priced around $1500. Seems to me to be a great deal but I'm posting here really to get some opinions Smilie
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I think these epis are one of the best values out there and the korean manufacturers are getting better every year. However, I have seen these(and other colors) go to $299 so I'd probably wait if you can. Fenders are regularly going to 50% off also.
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Not sure how much cheaper this one will go but always hankering for the real LP... would I be ultimately happy with this compromise? Not sure but it seems like a good option for those who probably don't have the crazy idea to get a genuine LP. Probably gets you 80% of the way there to an LP. But I know in my mind, I will still want the real deal so maybe I will save the $ and wait. There are only so many guitars you can play so might as well save up and get the one that will inspire you. Not sure about this one "blowing away" $1500 Gibson's as there is more that goes into these than the things you can immediately hear (woods, wiring, pups, finish, construction process, etc)... Any guitar can sound as good as any other depending upon the setup, amps, player, etc... but the longevity, resale, inspirational qualities, etc... are also factors.
So if I pay $400 for this epi which will be worth $200 used if I ever sell it losing 1/2 its value. Or, spend 3x as much and buy a used LP which I may keep forever And could still sell for maybe 10% loss?
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you will lose a lot more than 10% for a gibson les paul studio at $1500. probably 40% if you keep it in pristine condition. Sound is pretty subjective but cost isn't. Shelling out $1500 upfront is in a whole different category than $300 bucks for the average person. I usually only buy a new guitar at min 45% plus off and a used guitar at 55% plus off retail(factoring in condition). Gibsons are the most overpriced guitars in the industry due to price protection. Seems to be working out well for them as long quality doesn't go down again(memphis)
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Not sure how much cheaper this one will go but always hankering for the real LP... would I be ultimately happy with this compromise? Not sure but it seems like a good option for those who probably don't have the crazy idea to get a genuine LP. Probably gets you 80% of the way there to an LP. But I know in my mind, I will still want the real deal so maybe I will save the $ and wait. There are only so many guitars you can play so might as well save up and get the one that will inspire you. Not sure about this one "blowing away" $1500 Gibson's as there is more that goes into these than the things you can immediately hear (woods, wiring, pups, finish, construction process, etc)... Any guitar can sound as good as any other depending upon the setup, amps, player, etc... but the longevity, resale, inspirational qualities, etc... are also factors.
So if I pay $400 for this epi which will be worth $200 used if I ever sell it losing 1/2 its value. Or, spend 3x as much and buy a used LP which I may keep forever And could still sell for maybe 10% loss?
One of the prime reasons why many move away from Gibson LP's is the neck thickness. To the less initiated, this is often why secondary manufacturers gain market share. And companies like Jackson and Ibanez actually thrive on supplying more comfortable, tapered necks (I have a Jackson Green Swirl Soloist collectors guitar that I find difficult to put down).

There's a fair diversity here on SD with guitars. You'll even get the players who religiously buy a set-neck Washburn and replace most other parts, just to get exactly what they want. But if you don't have any experience doing that, then I suggest going halfway between a Gibson and a full-build-out like the Washburn example, and go to a store to figure out what "halway" is for you - starting with a good-fitting neck.
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Not sure how much cheaper this one will go but always hankering for the real LP... would I be ultimately happy with this compromise? Not sure but it seems like a good option for those who probably don't have the crazy idea to get a genuine LP. Probably gets you 80% of the way there to an LP. But I know in my mind, I will still want the real deal so maybe I will save the $ and wait. There are only so many guitars you can play so might as well save up and get the one that will inspire you. Not sure about this one "blowing away" $1500 Gibson's as there is more that goes into these than the things you can immediately hear (woods, wiring, pups, finish, construction process, etc)... Any guitar can sound as good as any other depending upon the setup, amps, player, etc... but the longevity, resale, inspirational qualities, etc... are also factors.
So if I pay $400 for this epi which will be worth $200 used if I ever sell it losing 1/2 its value. Or, spend 3x as much and buy a used LP which I may keep forever And could still sell for maybe 10% loss?
I generally agree with this but yesterday in Guitar center I tried out a les Paul standard, was not impressed, played a Les Paul Studio was not impressed, and played $1500 ZZ Top-shaped Gibson that was AWFUL. This epiphone was the best of the lot --at least of the ones I played. I think that Gibson has some serious quality control issues....I had often heard that said but yesterday that became evident.
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On sale at Musicians freind today: $399 w free shippping.

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Meh, this is the traditional pro II instead of the traditional pro. I want a desert burst and the traditional pro II in desert burst seems to have a plain cap instead of the flamed cap that's on the regular traditional pro. The pro II does however have a 15 dB boost function, but I'd rather have the flamed maple. Doesn't matter anyhow both are $499 in the desert burst finish. I guess I'll keep my eye on the stupid deal of the day, maybe eventually it will show up, haha.
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Meh, this is the traditional pro II instead of the traditional pro. I want a desert burst and the traditional pro II in desert burst seems to have a plain cap instead of the flamed cap that's on the regular traditional pro. The pro II does however have a 15 dB boost function, but I'd rather have the flamed maple. Doesn't matter anyhow both are $499 in the desert burst finish. I guess I'll keep my eye on the stupid deal of the day, maybe eventually it will show up, haha.
Today is your lucky day! Check musicians friend.
edit: the stupid deal of the day is on the honey burst and not the desert burst. My mistake.
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Looks like a really sweet axe. Split coils and active boost probably screams and smokes. I haven't played one but Epi quality has been real good. Grover tuners another plus.
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Today is your lucky day! Check musicians friend.
edit: the stupid deal of the day is on the honey burst and not the desert burst. My mistake.
Yeah, I already saw it early this morning. Almost pulled the trigger, but the honey burst is too bright for me. That's about the 3rd or 4th color that they've put on the stupid deal in the past 2-3 months. Hopefully the desert burst will find its way into the rotation eventually. And hopefully I won't miss it, lol...
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Major differences between PRO and PRO-II?
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Major differences between PRO and PRO-II?
Pro looks to have a flamed maple top while the Pro II seems to have a plain top. But the Pro II has a 15 dB boost function. I'd rather have the flamed top than the boost.
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Pro looks to have a flamed maple top while the Pro II seems to have a plain top. But the Pro II has a 15 dB boost function. I'd rather have the flamed top than the boost.
Is the boost replaceable by a multi-effect pedal? I have the G1Xon.

I have several Fender USA (Standard Strat, Deluxe Plus Strat and Johnny Marr Jaguar) but am thinking downgrading as I'm just learning. Is this Epiphone PRO/PRO-II similar to Squier Classic Vibe Strat '60s that receives good feedback?
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Is the boost replaceable by a multi-effect pedal? I have the G1Xon.

I have several Fender USA (Standard Strat, Deluxe Plus Strat and Johnny Marr Jaguar) but am thinking downgrading as I'm just learning. Is this Epiphone PRO/PRO-II similar to Squier Classic Vibe Strat '60s that receives good feedback?
Yeah, you could boost with a pedal instead. Not sure about the feedback on the Epiphone. You might want to read some online reviews or watch some video reviews on YouTube. I work on, fix, and upgrade my own guitars. So I'm not too concerned about the reviews since I can handle most stuff.
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