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I've been looking around and havent seen any deals, checked out the site and saw this today. Seems pretty good to me. $60 off the starter kits.

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I believe $60 off the starter is a pretty normal deal, not sure it was ever "full price"

That said, I am very happy with the system.
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I want to add it with the Arlo Pro I also bought. Do you use it with anything else? I setup an alert for Abode and never saw anything, so figured I'd share here. I also have smartthings when it was on sale with the tablet from BB, but will probably just sell it.
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I want to add it with the Arlo Pro I also bought. Do you use it with anything else? I setup an alert for Abode and never saw anything, so figured I'd share here. I also have smartthings when it was on sale with the tablet from BB, but will probably just sell it.
Any reason why Abode over Smartthings?
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Any reason why Abode over Smartthings?
Its more home security while ST is more home automation and monitoring. I dont need automation and I like the Arlo Pro for monitoring, so I wanted something designed more as an alarm system. I believe Abode allows a keypad and delayed exit/entry and other alarm system aspects. I havent fully looked into it but the consensus that it is better for security and that's what I need.
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Its more home security while ST is more home automation and monitoring. I dont need automation and I like the Arlo Pro for monitoring, so I wanted something designed more as an alarm system. I believe Abode allows a keypad and delayed exit/entry and other alarm system aspects. I havent fully looked into it but the consensus that it is better for security and that's what I need.
With the ability to integrate with Scout, I don't see a difference b/w smartthings and the specialized security systems. Being primarily a home automation system doesn't make it not a security system IMO. With arrival sensors, motion sensors, sirens and using our phones as presence sensors (and many choices for each of these devices), I've been trying to figure out why isn't ST a super set of dedicated security systems at this point.


Maybe cell based 4g signal and battery backup for base unit..can't think of anything else. Infact seems more capable than simplisafe , abode etc. imo
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With the ability to integrate with Scout, I don't see a difference b/w smartthings and the specialized security systems. Being primarily a home automation system doesn't make it not a security system IMO. With arrival sensors, motion sensors, sirens and using our phones as presence sensors (and many choices for each of these devices), I've been trying to figure out why isn't ST a super set of dedicated security systems at this point.


Maybe cell based 4g signal and battery backup for base unit..can't think of anything else. Infact seems more capable than simplisafe , abode etc. imo
I agree with most of your points, and that's how I viewed it at first, but I want more traditional home security without the professional monitoring, namely the keypad. I agree that monitoring is similar to security, but not exactly the same. With the smart homes, there are so many things to customize to your preference, and for me I like what abode offers. I was about to go all ST until I read more about abode and my situation. I won't have a central hub which is probably annoying, but we'll see.
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With the ability to integrate with Scout, I don't see a difference b/w smartthings and the specialized security systems. Being primarily a home automation system doesn't make it not a security system IMO. With arrival sensors, motion sensors, sirens and using our phones as presence sensors (and many choices for each of these devices), I've been trying to figure out why isn't ST a super set of dedicated security systems at this point.

Maybe cell based 4g signal and battery backup for base unit..can't think of anything else. Infact seems more capable than simplisafe , abode etc. imo
i think you identified it ... if you lose your power or your Internet, you lose your smartthings security system. also, it is possible to patch in scoutalarm to smartthings if you want a security system to work ... but a couple things that are overlooked here ... scout components cost just as much as abode and the system requires at least $10/month to run (unless you're grandfathered to do self-monitoring for free). in my opinion, abode is a much more robust system than scout.

abode allows self monitoring for free ($0/mo) and it can work as a z-wave and zigbee hub (the drawback here is exactly the same with smartthings and the Internet, of course, but there is a battery backup, the option for a backup cellular connection, and notifications of outages sent directly to your phone).

it is not as interoperable as smartthings but it can control linear garage door openers, switches, and lights. the team is also very active at continuing to roll out updates and so the product has gotten a lot better over time (e.g. nest and echo integration, google home coming next). you can opt in for central monitoring a la carte on a 3 day, 7-day, or 1-month basis (or do annual contracts for a little cheaper).

there is a very active reddit community where the abode founders/developers participate and provide updates/feedback. it's been pretty wonderful, having that kind of access to them. reddit.com/r/abode

edit: OP, abode usually has sales on major holidays but i unfortunately don't see any coming up. usually the system goes on sale for $269 or more, which isn't a huge amount but it is something. to be honest, i'd just go ahead and get it. wife and i are very happy with it. please feel free to PM me if you have any questions.
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With the ability to integrate with Scout, I don't see a difference b/w smartthings and the specialized security systems. Being primarily a home automation system doesn't make it not a security system IMO. With arrival sensors, motion sensors, sirens and using our phones as presence sensors (and many choices for each of these devices), I've been trying to figure out why isn't ST a super set of dedicated security systems at this point.


Maybe cell based 4g signal and battery backup for base unit..can't think of anything else. Infact seems more capable than simplisafe , abode etc. imo
I was originally looking into scout before going with Abode. There was a super long thread regarding terrible battery life for the sensors Scout used and someone mentioned Abode as an alternative to scout users who were fed up with the lack of actual progress.

I have had Abode (self monitored) for about half a year. so far, no complaints. The components aren't cheap could be a complaint i suppose... I don't use a keypad, instead I use location to arm/disarm. Its been flawless for me, though some people seem to have some issues.

Overall, I really like how monitoring is not required, and that it can be purchased in smaller time frames.

As someone else has mentioned, the reddit community is fairly active and the developers are quite responsive on it as well.

It does work fairly well for home automation, but I ended up getting a ST hub to control my lights while letting Abode handle my door locks and garage.
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I kept reading this as Adobe and was really confused
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I was originally looking into scout before going with Abode. There was a super long thread regarding terrible battery life for the sensors Scout used and someone mentioned Abode as an alternative to scout users who were fed up with the lack of actual progress.

I have had Abode (self monitored) for about half a year. so far, no complaints. The components aren't cheap could be a complaint i suppose... I don't use a keypad, instead I use location to arm/disarm. Its been flawless for me, though some people seem to have some issues.

Overall, I really like how monitoring is not required, and that it can be purchased in smaller time frames.

As someone else has mentioned, the reddit community is fairly active and the developers are quite responsive on it as well.

It does work fairly well for home automation, but I ended up getting a ST hub to control my lights while letting Abode handle my door locks and garage.
Maybe I misunderstood the integration, but I believe using ST with Scout monitoring meant using only scout for live monitoring. All components/sensors can be any of the well reviewed units that ST supports.
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Maybe I misunderstood the integration, but I believe using ST with Scout monitoring meant using only scout for live monitoring. All components/sensors can be any of the well reviewed units that ST supports.
ooo interesting, that definitely helps with their bad battery reputation, but now you have to pay for monitoring, which I do not want.

might work for others though
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ooo interesting, that definitely helps with their bad battery reputation, but now you have to pay for monitoring, which I do not want.

might work for others though
well you don't have to pay for monitoring if you don't want to. That is how I use mine - with location auto arm/disarm and notifications for my wife and I if a break-in detected.

So without monitoring - just ST
with monitoring - ST + monitoring alone from Scout (this wasn't possible earlier before the Scout integration)
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well you don't have to pay for monitoring if you don't want to. That is how I use mine - with location auto arm/disarm and notifications for my wife and I if a break-in detected.

So without monitoring - just ST
with monitoring - ST + monitoring alone from Scout (this wasn't possible earlier before the Scout integration)
I was under the impression scout requires a monitoring plan now for all future customers.
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I was under the impression scout requires a monitoring plan now for all future customers.
We aren't getting Scout. It smartthings with just scout use for live m onitoring and nothing else
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