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What POE home monitoring camera system do you recommend?

2,856 591 March 4, 2017 at 07:36 PM
In the middle of a home build (so wiring is cheap). What power over ethernet camera system do you all recommend.

Requirements
1. No monthly/yearly fee
2. 4+ cameras
3. Able to view cameras remotely (smartphone app, etc.)
4. Local backup/recording


Seems like the internet tilts toward Amcrest systems (but even there you can get 7 different setups).

Thanks for your help.

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Blue Iris. One time licensing fee (i think ~$60 and nothing else after that) but you do need to leave a computer on 24/7. Go read up at www.ipcamtalk.com [ipcamtalk.com] .
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At this point figuring out exactly where the cameras are going to go and getting wire there is a lot more important than deciding on the actual cameras. You may want to pre-wire some locations that may not get a camera for years. Resist the urge to put the cameras too high.

You'll also want ethernet, surround sound, and probably a hard wired alarm. Run an HDMI cable or extra pair of ethernet cables between your tv and where your choice of camera recording device is located.
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yep blue iris and hikvision here
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BlueIris and lately the Dahua cameras with the Sony/Exmor "Starlight" video sensor are the best. I just installed a model IPC-HDW4231EM-AS 2 megapixel turret camera from Andy at EmpireTechnology on AliExpress.com. Extremely high quality picture.

Most Amcrest cameras are manufactured by Dahua and rebranded by the former Foscam.us group in Texas. Skip the middleman and buy Dahua or Hikvision.

https://ipcamtalk.com/forums/dahua.8/

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BlueIris and lately the Dahua cameras with the Sony/Exmor "Starlight" video sensor are the best. I just installed a model IPC-HDW4231EM-AS 2 megapixel turret camera from Andy at EmpireTechnology on AliExpress.com. Extremely high quality picture.

Most Amcrest cameras are manufactured by Dahua and rebranded by the former Foscam.us group in Texas. Skip the middleman and buy Dahua or Hikvision.

https://ipcamtalk.com/forums/dahua.8/

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/...0.0.fUCNII
Do you run a smartphone app that can handle many different kinds of cameras? I have legacy Foscam cams as well as Hikvision - I have Tinycam (android) that works very well for the foscams but I can't get it to connect it hikvision. Conversely the Hikvision app is good but wants nothing to do with Foscam.
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Do you run a smartphone app that can handle many different kinds of cameras? I have legacy Foscam cams as well as Hikvision - I have Tinycam (android) that works very well for the foscams but I can't get it to connect it hikvision. Conversely the Hikvision app is good but wants nothing to do with Foscam.
I use IP Cam Viewer Pro on iPhone, but here's their Android version. [google.com]
The app supports hundreds of different camera vendors, and works with my Foscam C1, C2, Reolink RLC-410, and Dahua cameras just peachy.
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Thanks everyone. I now have excellent answers to questions I didn't even have yesterday.

Looks like I'll be running even more wires in the near future. shake head
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Thanks everyone. I now have excellent answers to questions I didn't even have yesterday.

Looks like I'll be running even more wires in the near future.
Yeah - looks like 4-8 Cat6 lines should suffice for POE cameras (depending on how many you want). I'll probably run 6 and only install 3 or 4 cameras to start off.

Just need to pick the "right" NVR now to record the feeds.
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BlueIris and lately the Dahua cameras with the Sony/Exmor "Starlight" video sensor are the best. I just installed a model IPC-HDW4231EM-AS 2 megapixel turret camera from Andy at EmpireTechnology on AliExpress.com. Extremely high quality picture.

Most Amcrest cameras are manufactured by Dahua and rebranded by the former Foscam.us group in Texas. Skip the middleman and buy Dahua or Hikvision.

https://ipcamtalk.com/forums/dahua.8/

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/...0.0.fUCNII
Any idea how that camera compares to the IPC-HDW5231R-Z ?

I bought 2 of those but haven't installed them yet.
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Any idea how that camera compares to the IPC-HDW5231R-Z ?

I bought 2 of those but haven't installed them yet.
The video quality should be almost identical, as it's the same Sony/Exmor "starlight" sensor.. Because the HDW5231R-Z is a varifocal camera, you'll be able to get even better results. Here's the thread for that camera [ipcamtalk.com] at ipcamtalk.com.
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The video quality should be almost identical, as it's the same Sony/Exmor "starlight" sensor.. Because the HDW5231R-Z is a varifocal camera, you'll be able to get even better results. Here's the thread for that camera [ipcamtalk.com] at ipcamtalk.com.
I think you suggested them in another thread, which is what made me purchase them. I also bought direct through Andy. Have blue iris running on a dedicated PC, just have to take the time to actually run the ethernet cable.
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I think you suggested them in another thread, which is what made me purchase them. I also bought direct through Andy. Have blue iris running on a dedicated PC, just have to take the time to actually run the ethernet cable.
I've been extremely happy with my fixed-lens 4231 for about a week or two, now. Picture quality is ridiculously clear with plenty of detail.
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Any idea how that camera compares to the IPC-HDW5231R-Z ?

I bought 2 of those but haven't installed them yet.
It looks like the aperture on the IPC-HDW5231R-Z is lower meaning more light/larger opening which is a good thing.
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It looks like the aperture on the IPC-HDW5231R-Z is lower meaning more light/larger opening which is a good thing.
There are direct comparisons at ipcamtalk by user nayr....
The varifocal is well worth the few extra dollars..you will almost never need exactly 2.8./3.6/6mm...varifocal will allow you maximum pixel density..regardless these starlight cams blow the standard cams out of the water...
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