Obama team: 'Fast and Furious' documents are privileged

Quote from 124nic8 : Only if you really believe "the record" is limited to what's posted here. Is that what you believe?

I'm under no obligation to answer your questions. LOL. The SD record will show that you are wrong until you prove otherwise. With over 20K posts, something tells me TP is a somewhat important part of your life.

Quote from andyfico : I'm under no obligation to answer your questions. LOL. The SD record will show that you are wrong until you prove otherwise. With over 20K posts, something tells me TP is a somewhat important part of your life.

Some parts of it are very unimportant to me. Like what some of its posters believe.

Quote from 124nic8 : Some parts of it are very unimportant to me. Like what some of its posters believe.

What is important or unimportant still won't change the fact that you are still wrong. If you want to leave it at that, fine. Otherwise you can provide evidence for your claim.

G W Bush invoked executive privilege on six occasions [wikipedia.org].

Quote from 124nic8 : You continually imply that Obama's is not the most transparent admin in history.

I only bring it up because he does.

Quote from 124nic8 : . I never said any lack of transparency by Obama was Bush's fault, I said the lack of transparency by the Bush administration is directly relevant to the comparison you've tried to disparage.

Except it's not relevant except in a very tiny, tiny, itsy-bitsy, teenie-weenie, yellow polka-dot bikini way because there's been a whole lot more administrations than just Bush2's.

Quote from 124nic8 : And I didn't say that was your gotcha game. I said your implied claims of a lack of the most transparent admin was your gotcha game.

That makes your idiotic "gotcha" game even more idiotic and more stupider then.

Quote from 124nic8 : You're the one who implied it's not so the onus is on you to show that it isn't.

Nope. The onus is on Obama and all his minions who repeat his transparency claims.

Quote from 124nic8 : Several times. Do I need to collect the links for you?

Please do!

Quote from 124nic8 : GW invoked executive privilege, so you lose. [washingtonpost.com]

lol.

Quote from 124nic8 : They're not conspiracy theories, they are speculation based on knowledge about how Washington cooperates with foreign nations to achieve law enforcement goals and the reasons why such cooperation is kept secret.

In that case, my "conspiracy theories" are at least as good as your "speculation."

Quote from andyfico : You made a claim with nothing of substance to back it up. The fact remains that until you back it up with something of substance, Deus remains right about GW. You and the article are just speculating that GW and every president has invoked executive privilege.

A weird part is for some reason 124nic8 is basing an administration's transparency simply on how many times it invoked executive privilege.

I guess Congress is too busy investigating a failed sell and bust, then the more important case of its military commiting war crimes..

Especially when it involved murdering reporters and covering it all up, or turning Pat Tillman into a hero to coverup what really happened to him...

I'm so glad Issa is on the job

Quote from Elmer : G W Bush invoked executive privilege on six occasions [wikipedia.org].

well to you 1>6

On a side note here your republican get to the bottom of things Issa

Patriot Act : check
NDAA : check and check

Yup when he's not busy playing partisan politics he's just stealing your freedoms...

Quote from Ryu-bom : I'm so glad Issa is on the job:

I agree. God bless Mr. Issa!

"Fair and Balanced"

FOX is no worse than MSNBC. Fox will cover this like crazy and MSNBC will likely ignore it completely.[/QUOTE]

Why a so called news network has to tell you they are "Fair and Balanced" is odd to me; should'nt that be determined by the viewer?

I stopped watching MSNBC lately because there is too much coverage for me.

Quote from Deusxmachina : Issa was on a talk show this morning talking about this. Some crazy Democrat guy said how Issa already has 7600 documents. Problem is a lot of those are literally blank pages, and also Issa didn't necessarily want those documents but instead wants other ones

And you just believe that Isaa has 7600 blank documents. From Issa's own website, he specifically states what he's after:
"Having already obtained these documents, the contempt effort will focus on the Justice Department’s refusal to turn over documents from after February 4, 2011 – the date the Justice Department first denied accusations that reckless conduct occurred in Fast and Furious."

These are documents from long after the case and investigation ended.

Quote from 124nic8 : Are you disputing that GW invoked executive privilege? Sounds like you're just speculating here without any basis whatsoever. Not much homework is required and you could google it yourself if you're curious. The fact remains that whether I supply the link or not, Deus was wrong about GW.

Your own article not only says that GW didn't invoke it (it didn't exist as a term then), but it also says that he gave Congress the documents they were looking for. Did you even read the article you supplied as your backup?

Congress - "Give us the documents we want."
GW - "No. We have a right to private conversations."
Congress - "No you don't."
GW - "OK, here you go."

Fantastic.

Quote from Ryu-bom : well to you 1>6

Yes, Ryu, that's why I posted it.



It's also why my signature was "George W. Bush" Our Worst President Yet" back when he was in office..... 'cause I'm such a fan of his......



The difference is, he's not president anymore. And my outrage isn't a moveable partisan target like yours.....

Quote from Rebound : "Having already obtained these documents, the contempt effort will focus on the Justice Department’s refusal to turn over documents from after February 4, 2011 – the date the Justice Department first denied accusations that reckless conduct occurred in Fast and Furious."

You mean right when there may be a flurry of communications detailing a systemic attempt at covering up, to protect top administration officials....

How silly that Issa would want to see that.......

rebound, if this were a conservative administration, and an issue that conservative's were screaming for legislation on, and coincidentally, there was a secret program that just so happened to be contributing to the very same issue run by the same conservative administration......