Sandy Hook Question

Quote from NM 156 : How come the reports say that handguns were used but now a medical examiner says an AR-15 was used?... There's a red flag right there... This is about an attack on the 2nd Amendment... Guess what?... There never was a shooting... There was a school drill the kids participated in... and the rest of the story was made up by the CIA run media... I just sit back in awe and watch all of you argue over details that are totally made up... After already admitting that crisis actors were used at Sandy Hook...

see this is what I talking about, poisoing the well.... prove a link showing admitted crisis actors were used...just because you think they were used, is not an asmission**...all I said is that crisis actors exist, and never said they were used here..

Quote from vaultaddict : I told you to hush.

I thought you had me on ignore?

Quote from papitosabe : see this is what I talking about, poisoing the well.... prove a link showing admitted crisis actors were used...just because you think they were used, is not an asmission**...all I said is that crisis actors exist, and never said they were used here..

I don't know what you mean by "poisoning the well"... You're wasting your time pointing out all those details that were MADE UP by the media... I posted crisis actor links about 5 times on this thread...

Quote from NM 156 : II don't know what you mean by "poisoning the well"... You're wasting your time pointing out all those details that were MADE UP by the media... I posted crisis actor links about 5 times on this thread...

yes you do....because you're claiming there there is admitted crisis actors in the sandy hook massacre...none of the links you provided shows anyone admittng to being a Crisis Actor... so you're purposely doing that...

Quote from papitosabe : yes you do....because you're claiming there there is admitted crisis actors in the sandy hook massacre...none of the links you provided shows anyone admittng to being a Crisis Actor... so you're purposely doing that...

Admitted crisis actors?... It's proven... So is green screen...

Quote from NM 156 : ... After already admitting that crisis actors were used at Sandy Hook...

Quote from NM 156 : Admitted crisis actors?... It's proven... So is green screen...

the fact there are crisis actors is a FACT...ok...anyone here besides TRNT that disputes that? not that I've heard, but she's seems to be oblivous

regarding your top claim, and you later stated you've provided links.... I've checked you links, and it does not point out anything about "admitting that cris actors were used at Sandy Hook." ..WHO admitted that crisis actors were used, please name the person that admitted that, on which video, and at which time frame. so that we can all view the admittance...if its true, I will eat crow, and myself admit that crisis actors were used.... if not, you can still claim that is your belief, but just be honest about it...nothing wrong with that..

Quote from papitosabe : the fact there are crisis actors is a FACT...ok...anyone here besides TRNT that disputes that? not that I've heard, but she's seems to be oblivous regarding your top claim, and you later stated you've provided links.... I've checked you links, and it does not point out anything about "admitting that cris actors were used at Sandy Hook." ..WHO admitted that crisis actors were used, please name the person that admitted that, on which video, and at which time frame. so that we can all view the admittance...if its true, I will eat crow, and myself admit that crisis actors were used.... if not, you can still claim that is your belief, but just be honest about it...nothing wrong with that..

Dude, I posted a link showing the farking crisis actor practicing his lines before he went on...

Quote from NM 156 : Dude, I posted a link showing the farking crisis actor practicing his lines before he went on...

I saw that... I didn't notice he was practicing lines though...and I didn't notice him admitting he was a Crisis Actor, ...at what time in that video did he admit to being a Crisis Actor?

Quote from papitosabe : I saw that... I didn't notice he was practicing lines though...and I didn't notice him admitting he was a Crisis Actor, ...at what time in that video did he admit to being a Crisis Actor?

He admitted it when he was practicing his lines...

Quote from NM 156 : He admitted it when he was practicing his lines...

mkay

Verb

1.Confess to be true or to be the case, typically with reluctance.
2.Confess to (a crime or fault, or one's responsibility for it).

Quote from TRNT : Well, I was hoping you would identify an explicit lie that I could then investigate it. So I assume you are claiming that if an assault weapon was recovered from a car, then the killer could have not have used an assault weapon in his killings. So a couple questions: 1. Is there a cite that definitively identifies the car from whose trunk a rifle was recovered belonging to the killer? 2. How do we eliminate the possibility that the killer had two assault weapons?

thinking back on this post, I noticed you stated if an assault weapon was recovered from "a car," ....then you stated for a cite that definitively identifies "the car" from whose trunk a rifle was recovered....just caught me as strange that you wouldn't have questioned it being "his" car.....

anywyas, I had meant that I thought it was obvious that it was the car that Lanza used.....so not sure if it was his car, his mothers, or brothers, or even stolen.... but pretty sure that was the car he was assumed to have used.... so did you see or hear something about it actually being his car or not?

Quote from mindraider : I already provided you with the sources. The medical examiner also confirmed that the AR-15 rifle was used on all the victims that he examined.

so the medical examiner examined ALL 26/27 people in just a few days and confirmed all AR-15 shots eh?? he's pretty fast I'd say... great work...

oh, and FALSE claim on your part, because the medical examiner never confirmed an AR-15, he said, "long gun".... but nice try to claim he said that... and he clearly never said AR-15 so just more lies...and look at your source, 2 guns being removed....any mention of that other gun??? how strange....and strange you didn't mention it either, and still haven't responded to that...

Quote from mindraider : I'll jump on this. What we have here is most of these conspiracy theories are people who have a very specific agenda, and you can tell that this exists because you keep hearing about 9/11, London Bombings, and other seemingly unrelated events. Any time one large tragic event occurs, a lot of conspiracy theorists try to gather all the media reports, pick and choose what doesn't make sense, take it out of context - often citing early and inaccurate reports(which are always inaccurate when we have a breaking news situation) - and then connect it to other things to try and create some broader conspiratorial narrative. The saddest part is, a lot of people would rather a lot of these things be conspiracies than be out-of-control, unpredictable situations which we presumably have very little means of preventing completely, because that is far more scary to many people than thinking that, "It's just the government that has planned all of this stuff and everything went off as the government planned."

glad to see you're jumping on this, but careful, because the more you jump, the more holes you are creating ...

now tell me, how did I take your claim of the medical examiner saying it was an AR-15, when he clear didn't, out of context....do tell..

how did I take the LEO stating there were multiple guns while confirming a rifle and shogun, out of context

how did I take the NBC claim that there was misinformation in the fact that the AR-15 was used, and in the trunk...and that 4 guns were used and found in the school....did I take that out of context?

how about the video which you posted that shows 2 guns being pulled...I conceded that the one could well be a shotgun, and I can see the other one removed, but can't tell what kind..... conspiracy theory eh?

how about the 2 different witnesses that each saw someone handcuffed/arrested and pinned...and we all saw the footage of the LEO's chasing someone in the woods.....I made that up too? and that is a fake video ???

and what about the car, was it Lanza's? or his moms? or someone elses?

if not his or his moms, whose was it? did he steal it? usually these kind of questions are relevant, but to you and some here, not a darn thing, a big meh... pretty comical actually...

and how about some video footage of all the supposed shot out windows??? have you seen anything or just taking their word again?

how about some real tears in the interviews with the parents?? have you seen any, or just smiles???

you have absolutely ZERO answers... I conceded the one footage of the shotgun thing as it made sense that it was a different type of shotgun, and was valid info on your part...

don't forget how Britain lost the right to arms....mostly due to 2 significant massacres, one in the late 80's and one mid 90's... the first one I believed caused a loss of most semi's and the 2nd incident cauesd a loss in most handguns, except for muskets and powerdered revolvers or something like that....

most people know what the hell is going on, especially here on SD, they're a little more informed than the rest, IMO.... its obvious there is an agenda to incrementally take our guns... yea, ya'll will manipulate some to get on your bandwagon, but most people are smart enough to see the the BS.... I'm not buying y'alls tactics whatsoever...

Quote from papitosabe : the fact there are crisis actors is a FACT...ok...anyone here besides TRNT that disputes that? not that I've heard, but she's seems to be oblivous

Now you are making stuff up. And you keep invoking my name in conversations with others as if you have been wounded. Are you per chance "distraught"?

Quote from papitosabe : so the medical examiner examined ALL 26/27 people in just a few days and confirmed all AR-15 shots eh?? he's pretty fast I'd say... great work...

Do you always display yourself as an arrogant, sarcastic douche when you post? Do you even bother to conduct any research on your own aside from the YouTube videos posted by your tinfoil sibling, that are nothing but pure speculation and guesswork? If you did, you would know that the Chief Medical Examiner, along with 4 other doctors, 10 technicians/colleagues, and a majority of the investigative staff stayed until 1AM the next morning to identify and perform postmortem examinations on all victims. The assailant and the assailant's mother's examination were conducted the very next day.

Quote from papitosabe : oh, and FALSE claim on your part, because the medical examiner never confirmed an AR-15, he said, "long gun".... but nice try to claim he said that... and he clearly never said AR-15 so just more lies...and look at your source, 2 guns being removed....any mention of that other gun??? how strange....and strange you didn't mention it either, and still haven't responded to that...

From Dr. Carver's press conference, he does, in fact, confirm that all wounds were caused by the long gun. After which, he further clarified the long gun being the rifle, AR-15.
Two guns were not removed from the trunk of the car. There was a single gun, the Saiga-12 combat shotgun that I mentioned before, that was confiscated by police.

Quote from papitosabe : now tell me, how did I take your claim of the medical examiner saying it was an AR-15, when he clear didn't, out of context....do tell..

He did. See above.

Quote from papitosabe : how did I take the LEO stating there were multiple guns while confirming a rifle and shogun, out of context

Please source.

Quote from papitosabe : how did I take the NBC claim that there was misinformation in the fact that the AR-15 was used, and in the trunk...and that 4 guns were used and found in the school....did I take that out of context?

Please source. However, I will say this, again. In the immediate aftermath of the terror and tragedy of the Sandy Hook shootings, there was naturally a great deal of confusion among witnesses, news media, and even police about subjects such as the number of shooters involved, the identities of those involved, and the number of guns used. It's hardly surprising or revelatory to note that some witnesses gave contradictory statements, that police initially followed up on the possibility of multiple shooters, or that some news outlets initially reported inaccurate information. All of this is typical in the crush for information from the news media, public, and relatives of victims that follows in the wake of disasters involving large numbers of deaths.

Quote from papitosabe : how about the video which you posted that shows 2 guns being pulled...I conceded that the one could well be a shotgun, and I can see the other one removed, but can't tell what kind..... conspiracy theory eh?

Never posted such a video. There was one gun removed from the trunk. Please source.

Quote from papitosabe : how about the 2 different witnesses that each saw someone handcuffed/arrested and pinned...and we all saw the footage of the LEO's chasing someone in the woods.....I made that up too? and that is a fake video ???

In their initial sweep of the crime scene, police detained or investigated some people who were later cleared of any involvement with the shootings. In reference to your claim, yes this did actually happen. An unidentified man was seen being pinned down on the ground in handcuffs outside the firehouse. He was briefly detained and then released when police determined he was merely an innocent passerby.

Quote from papitosabe : and what about the car, was it Lanza's? or his moms? or someone elses?if not his or his moms, whose was it? did he steal it? usually these kind of questions are relevant, but to you and some here, not a darn thing, a big meh... pretty comical actually...

Unsure how this is relevant to anything. It could have very well been Lanza's car, or perhaps his mother's. Hell, it could have even been stolen.

Quote from papitosabe : and how about some video footage of all the supposed shot out windows??? have you seen anything or just taking their word again?

The police department have not released any actual footage from the school's security feed or photographs from the shooting. They are under no obligation to release this type of media. This is not to mean it did not happen, but leave it to conspirators to assume just this.

Quote from papitosabe : how about some real tears in the interviews with the parents?? have you seen any, or just smiles???

This is presumably in reference to Robbie Parker and his interview to the public media. To say that anyone has expertise in evaluating how a grieving father whose child was just shot to death in a world-wide tragedy and to say that the behavior is indicative of some kind of fraud or hoax is completely absurd. I don't know how I'd be acting if this was my child. It doesn't seem like I would be laughing from being happy, but might I be laughing from nerves? Might I be laughing from some kind of automatic response before I speak to national media about this? Again, this theory is absurd.

Quote from papitosabe : most people know what the hell is going on, especially here on SD, they're a little more informed than the rest, IMO.... its obvious there is an agenda to incrementally take our guns... yea, ya'll will manipulate some to get on your bandwagon, but most people are smart enough to see the the BS.... I'm not buying y'alls tactics whatsoever...

Lastly, you need help.

Quote from papitosabe : so the medical examiner examined ALL 26/27 people in just a few days and confirmed all AR-15 shots eh?? he's pretty fast I'd say... great work... oh, and FALSE claim on your part, because the medical examiner never confirmed an AR-15, he said, "long gun".... but nice try to claim he said that... and he clearly never said AR-15 so just more lies...and look at your source, 2 guns being removed....any mention of that other gun??? how strange....and strange you didn't mention it either, and still haven't responded to that... glad to see you're jumping on this, but careful, because the more you jump, the more holes you are creating ... now tell me, how did I take your claim of the medical examiner saying it was an AR-15, when he clear didn't, out of context....do tell.. how did I take the LEO stating there were multiple guns while confirming a rifle and shogun, out of context how did I take the NBC claim that there was misinformation in the fact that the AR-15 was used, and in the trunk...and that 4 guns were used and found in the school....did I take that out of context? how about the video which you posted that shows 2 guns being pulled...I conceded that the one could well be a shotgun, and I can see the other one removed, but can't tell what kind..... conspiracy theory eh? how about the 2 different witnesses that each saw someone handcuffed/arrested and pinned...and we all saw the footage of the LEO's chasing someone in the woods.....I made that up too? and that is a fake video ??? and what about the car, was it Lanza's? or his moms? or someone elses? if not his or his moms, whose was it? did he steal it? usually these kind of questions are relevant, but to you and some here, not a darn thing, a big meh... pretty comical actually... and how about some video footage of all the supposed shot out windows??? have you seen anything or just taking their word again? how about some real tears in the interviews with the parents?? have you seen any, or just smiles??? you have absolutely ZERO answers... I conceded the one footage of the shotgun thing as it made sense that it was a different type of shotgun, and was valid info on your part... don't forget how Britain lost the right to arms....mostly due to 2 significant massacres, one in the late 80's and one mid 90's... the first one I believed caused a loss of most semi's and the 2nd incident cauesd a loss in most handguns, except for muskets and powerdered revolvers or something like that.... most people know what the hell is going on, especially here on SD, they're a little more informed than the rest, IMO.... its obvious there is an agenda to incrementally take our guns... yea, ya'll will manipulate some to get on your bandwagon, but most people are smart enough to see the the BS.... I'm not buying y'alls tactics whatsoever...

Quote from mindraider : Do you always display yourself as an arrogant, sarcastic douche when you post? Do you even bother to conduct any research on your own aside from the YouTube videos posted by your tinfoil sibling, that are nothing but pure speculation and guesswork? If you did, you would know that the Chief Medical Examiner, along with 4 other doctors, 10 technicians/colleagues, and a majority of the investigative staff stayed until 1AM the next morning to identify and perform postmortem examinations on all victims. The assailant and the assailant's mother's examination were conducted the very next day. From Dr. Carver's press conference, he does, in fact, confirm that all wounds were caused by the long gun. After which, he further clarified the long gun being the rifle, AR-15. Two guns were not removed from the trunk of the car. There was a single gun, the Saiga-12 combat shotgun that I mentioned before, that was confiscated by police. He did. See above. Please source. Please source. However, I will say this, again. In the immediate aftermath of the terror and tragedy of the Sandy Hook shootings, there was naturally a great deal of confusion among witnesses, news media, and even police about subjects such as the number of shooters involved, the identities of those involved, and the number of guns used. It's hardly surprising or revelatory to note that some witnesses gave contradictory statements, that police initially followed up on the possibility of multiple shooters, or that some news outlets initially reported inaccurate information. All of this is typical in the crush for information from the news media, public, and relatives of victims that follows in the wake of disasters involving large numbers of deaths. Never posted such a video. There was one gun removed from the trunk. Please source. In their initial sweep of the crime scene, police detained or investigated some people who were later cleared of any involvement with the shootings. In reference to your claim, yes this did actually happen. An unidentified man was seen being pinned down on the ground in handcuffs outside the firehouse. He was briefly detained and then released when police determined he was merely an innocent passerby. Unsure how this is relevant to anything. It could have very well been Lanza's car, or perhaps his mother's. Hell, it could have even been stolen. The police department have not released any actual footage from the school's security feed or photographs from the shooting. They are under no obligation to release this type of media. This is not to mean it did not happen, but leave it to conspirators to assume just this. This is presumably in reference to Robbie Parker and his interview to the public media. To say that anyone has expertise in evaluating how a grieving father whose child was just shot to death in a world-wide tragedy and to say that the behavior is indicative of some kind of fraud or hoax is completely absurd. I don't know how I'd be acting if this was my child. It doesn't seem like I would be laughing from being happy, but might I be laughing from nerves? Might I be laughing from some kind of automatic response before I speak to national media about this? Again, this theory is absurd. Lastly, you need help.

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