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Quote from JackHandey : After all of the crap that has effluviated from his orifice, you are just figuring that out? He is the best life insurance policy that Obama could ever have. He's probably the just about only man avail that could eff up the country more right now.

Ha ha - lol! Remember the intel from the Bin Laden raid that found instructions to his assassins not to harm a single hair on Biden's head since he was deemed to be the biggest threat to the US if he ever got to be POTUS.

Quote from OhNoItsDEVO : Joe pushing for more shotgun ownership... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/201...19330.html

In other news, man goes on rampage with a shotgun.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/02...-killed-2/

Quote from Xygonn : In other news, man goes on rampage with a shotgun. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/02...-killed-2/

Shit! Time to ban shotguns!

Quote from Xygonn : In other news, man goes on rampage with a shotgun. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/02...-killed-2/

Wait, Joe B. just told me that shotguns are OK. I mean the real danger are assault weapons. Right?!

No? The real danger is/are people intent on destruction? Oh.....

Quote from dealgate : Ha ha - lol! Remember the intel from the Bin Laden raid that found instructions to his assassins not to harm a single hair on Biden's head since he was deemed to be the biggest threat to the US if he ever got to be POTUS.

I don't know what's more ridiculous... You believing that, or you thinking that bin Laden is a good judge of anything.
Bin Laden got George Bush to waste over two trillion dollars and thousands of American lives in response to his attack, and he even witnessed Bush attack the wrong country. Lets hope we don't have another president who's that dumb ever again. On that score, President Bush is likely unbeatable, and the liberals were easily right from the get-go. President Gore would have been a vastly better choice at the time... which is why more Americans voted for him.

Quote from OhNoItsDEVO : Shit! Time to ban shotguns!

Was it an assault shotgun?

Quote from JackHandey : After all of the crap that has effluviated from his orifice, you are just figuring that out? He is the best life insurance policy that Obama could ever have. He's probably the just about only man avail that could eff up the country more right now.

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Quote from Rebound : I don't know what's ridiculous... You believing that, or you thinking that bin Laden is a good judge of anything. Bin Laden got George Bush to waste over two trillion dollars and thousands of American lives in response to his attack, and he even witnessed Bush attack the wrong country. Lets hope we don't have another president who's that dumb ever again. On that score, President Bush is likely unbeatable, and the liberals were easily right from the get-go. President Gore would have been a vastly better choice at the time... which is why more Americans voted for him.

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Quote from Rebound : I don't know what's ridiculous... You believing that, or you thinking that bin Laden is a good judge of anything. Bin Laden got George Bush to waste over two trillion dollars and thousands of American lives in response to his attack, and he even witnessed Bush attack the wrong country. Lets hope we don't have another president who's that dumb ever again. On that score, President Bush is likely unbeatable, and the liberals were easily right from the get-go. President Gore would have been a vastly better choice at the time... which is why more Americans voted for him.

lol - bashing Bush doesn't both me at all, I am not a Republican.

Quote from Rebound : I don't know what's ridiculous... You believing that, or you thinking that bin Laden is a good judge of anything. Bin Laden got George Bush to waste over two trillion dollars and thousands of American lives in response to his attack, and he even witnessed Bush attack the wrong country. Lets hope we don't have another president who's that dumb ever again. On that score, President Bush is likely unbeatable, and the liberals were easily right from the get-go. President Gore would have been a vastly better choice at the time... which is why more Americans voted for him.

Granted I haven't been around this forum much in the last two years, but I don't think I have seen you say anything more silly than this in the last almost 6 years. And that is saying a lot.

I found myself fascinated with the fact that the dems picked both Gore and Kerry in succession to compete against GWB. I think that is where I started believing that the fix was in on elections. I mean, it is beyond mere incompetence required to systematically provide multiple candidates that can realistically be plausible to have lost to GWB, and honestly be considered worse choices by a ton of people.

Gore was a schmuck, and so much of a schmuck that he lost to a putz like GWB. Kerry had the potential to be worse than GWB, mostly because GWB was limited by his level of competence in how much damage he could do. Kerry has an atrocious record when it comes to civil rights.

As for Iraq, the fact that we attacked Iraq is not the problem; the problem is that we were not aggressive in combat enough, we allowed the media to be present in the combat too often, and overall the conflict was poorly managed. That you didn't understand the reason Iraq needed to be attacked, doesn't remove its utility. It has nothing to do with oil.

I'm amazed that anyone has the chutzpah to put Gore on a pedestal, in the extreme. It's bad enough that dems appear to act like Obama is riding unicorns across the country and wearing a halo, and could never be responsible for anything not going right in the country.

Into his second term, I bet you guys still think EVERYTHING is GWB's fault. Even the things that BHO has himself done (because of course he is in the situation he is in is the result of crap that GWB did, right)?

The party that is blindly endorsing a politician that has given himself the ability to throw us in prison and have us executed, at his own discretion and without oversight... And now wishes to have us all functionally disarmed really is in no position to go pointing fingers...

Yeah, GWB was a fark up... But, your team didn't really provide meaningful competition with either Gore or Kerry. We similarly screwed the pooch with McCain/Palin and a slew of republicans this last election that said really stupid crap that surely didn't help.

While GWB was almost a total fark up, it almost seems like it was all arranged, to set the stage for all of the crap BHO has done. The Amazing thing is, that in comparison GWB seems like monumentally less of a fark up than he was... It's like BHO looked at all of the messed up crap that GWB did, and has viewed it as a challenge to go above and beyond in all areas of screwing things up.

Why shouldn't he? He's never held accountable for anything, and never will be.

Quote from JackHandey : Yeah, GWB was a fark up... While GWB was almost a total fark up.

Six years ago, Podium was full of guys who thought Bush was just fantastic... where'd they go? They all believed in everything he did, and defended every bit of it, and if you didn't love Bush you were a lib-uh-rul.

So what happened? And what part of the " Rah, rah, we love Bush" policies were right, and which were wrong? B/c if he was a "total fark up," as you say, then the policies must have all been wrong. Except that your side loved them.

... again, idiots believing there are only 2 sides,...

Quote from Rebound : Six years ago, Podium was full of guys who thought Bush was just fantastic... where'd they go? They all believed in everything he did, and defended every bit of it, and if you didn't love Bush you were a lib-uh-rul.

I never thought he was the best thing ever. I simply accepted there were not better alternatives offered at the time.

I've been pretty consistent in that I do not have any love for the duopoly we are offered, and simply accept the republican party as the lesser of two evils that isn't interested in trodding upon liberties that I choose to believe are a priority for me.

However, as bad as Bush was, Obama has gone 10 steps further than he did. Bush invaded our privacy, Obama would throw us in prison and/or have us executed... Both set up their trodding upon the constitution to be without oversight or any burden of proof to avoid consequences for themselves.

Quote : So what happened? And what part of the " Rah, rah, we love Bush" policies were right, and which were wrong? B/c if he was a "total fark up," as you say, then the policies must have all been wrong. Except that your side loved them.

Bush was right to be aggressive militarily, but he royally screwed the pooch horribly in how he set up objectives for the military. Also, Bush set it up to indefinitely detain and execute foreign nationals. Obama set it up so that he can do the same to US citizens. To top it off, to ensure that dissension is shut down, he would disarm everyone. Who needs to trod upon the first amendment, when he can declare dissenters as terrorists, and have them executed or imprisoned for life by simply labeling them terrorists at his whim? Who will be able to jack shit about it, if everyone is disarmed?

Can you honestly say that you believe what Bush did was of greater concern? It doesn't excuse what he has done, but holy shit Obama is a menace to our country with the policies he is setting.

Interesting article I ran across Self Defense Findings [blogspot.com]

The perceived need for massive quantities of ammo, reloading, and precision shooting at distance is largely a figbar of people's imaginations. There is simply no evidence to support the contention that any of those conditions occur during armed confrontation involving the Private Citizen.

For the period 1997 – 2001, reports of 482 incidents were examined. All involved the use of firearms by private citizens in self defense or defense of others. No law enforcement related incidents were included.

Overall, shots were fired by the defender in 72% of incidents. The average and median number of shots fired was 2. When more than 2 shots were fired, it generally appeared that the defender’s initial response was to fire until empty.

Reloading was required in only 3 incidents. One of those involved killing an escaped lion with a .32 caliber revolver, which was eventually successful after 13 shots.

The most common responses of criminals upon being shot were to flee immediately or expire. With few exceptions, criminals ceased their advances immediately upon being shot.