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Who has the lowest 30 year currently?

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Dr. J
03-09-2020 at 05:58 AM.
03-09-2020 at 05:58 AM.
Quote from stufine :
neighbor said she's writing at 2.8 for a 30
Just because I hear the damned commercial all the time a local CU has got a 15 yr @ 2.75% APR (2.5%) and no closing costs

For some reason 10 yrs seem to have a higher APR than a 15 yr in a few cases.
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FloppyHo
03-09-2020 at 04:22 PM.
03-09-2020 at 04:22 PM.
Quote from jordanz12 :
Local one for sure...just find one with great reviews. Even though most of the dealings are done through online, going local for the initial meeting and final signing party is very helpful to us.

Not sure what to tell you about my in-laws rate. They purchased in 2001-2002 timeframe. Went through a local credit union. Just passing on what they've told me their rate was.
It's very likely that they refinanced when rates dropped and forgot to mention that. If they insist they got those rates, then you might want to ask them how.

Click Here:
http://www.freddiemac.com/pmms/

Then look at the interactive chart. Switch to "All Time"
There is no easily understandable way that they got 2.75% back then. They probably got a loan then, and then refinanced after 2010 or so.


The next time that chart updates, it will have rates at or near an all time low.
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FloppyHo
03-09-2020 at 04:26 PM.
03-09-2020 at 04:26 PM.
Some of the rates I've seen looking around:

Navy Federal Credit Union rates

30 Year Fixed 2.847% APR
15 Year Fixed 2.553% APR

Alliant Federal Credit Union rates

30 Year Fixed 3.053% APR
15 Year Fixed 2.596% APR
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komondor
03-09-2020 at 04:47 PM.
03-09-2020 at 04:47 PM.
Quote from Dr. J :
I always run the numbers comparing rate changes and extra payments - e.g. go with a shorter term lower rate but higher *required* payments OR go with a longer term = lower *required* payments, likely higher rate, and make payments similar to the shorter term option. Often the difference in interest cost isn't huge. Of course it will always be there but that basically tells you how much you're paying, in essence, for a bit of peace of mind if you had to cut back that payment.

My current payment P&I is 1269 so would need get to be 1K to make it worthwhile at all.

right now principal is $546 and interest us $723.
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Dr. J
03-09-2020 at 06:06 PM.
03-09-2020 at 06:06 PM.
Quote from FloppyHo :
Some of the rates I've seen looking around:

Navy Federal Credit Union rates

30 Year Fixed 2.847% APR
15 Year Fixed 2.553% APR

Alliant Federal Credit Union rates

30 Year Fixed 3.053% APR
15 Year Fixed 2.596% APR
PFCU
15yr 2.588
30yr 2.847
both APR and yes likely depend on your FICO

Also have "loan credits to member" depending on loan amount, $500, $1000 or $2500.

Doing some quick numbers for me I could take the 15yr option and make huge extra payments $550 - I'd save $10k in interest and pay off the loan ~5 months ahead of time.
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miserly
03-09-2020 at 08:22 PM.
03-09-2020 at 08:22 PM.
locked in via loan estimates for 2.625% last week for 15 yo conventional. i had 3% a week before that but looks like i got lucky with these.
i'm working 2 lenders, both from costco website. when do i peel off and commit to 1? each has different condition. both are 2.625% at 15, first has impounds and rate lock until end of april. second has no impounds and rate lock until end of march but is $1k higher in fees.for a $500K refi. your advice is greatly appreciated.
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MakeitRainDolla
03-13-2020 at 07:35 AM.
03-13-2020 at 07:35 AM.
Rates are all screwed up right now.
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alMac
03-15-2020 at 04:06 PM.
03-15-2020 at 04:06 PM.
Do we see the rates falling in the mortagage market now?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/15/c...d-cut.html
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scrapplejoe
03-15-2020 at 05:00 PM.
03-15-2020 at 05:00 PM.
penfed is just garbage rates on their website...
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Dr. J
03-15-2020 at 05:42 PM.
03-15-2020 at 05:42 PM.
Quote from scrapplejoe :
penfed is just garbage rates on their website...
yeah I noticed that too. 15yr used to be 2.588 and now it's on the order of 3.5. Not sure what that's about.

But there's this:

"The Fed on Sunday said it will begin buying $200 billion of mortgage-backed bonds, a move that will stabilize and likely lower mortgage rates, which moved sharply higher last week.
Mortgage rates had fallen to a record low two weeks ago, but a flood of refinance applications overwhelmed lenders and caused investors in mortgage-backed bonds to back off."

So basically supply and demand.... rates go low, people take advantage of it (demand increases) and thus rates creep back up.
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alMac
03-16-2020 at 05:28 AM.
03-16-2020 at 05:28 AM.
I am not seeing any adjustments to the mortgage rates. Anyone else? I thoughts MBS and bonds adjust fairly quickly based on drastic fed actions yesterday.
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dimagwala
03-16-2020 at 09:10 AM.
03-16-2020 at 09:10 AM.
Quote from alMac :
I am not seeing any adjustments to the mortgage rates. Anyone else? I thoughts MBS and bonds adjust fairly quickly based on drastic fed actions yesterday.
Investors not buying mortgage bonds. They lose when refinance occurs. 10 yr ate higher than MBS. Lenders reached their limits. Hence increase in rates. Does not make sense, but that's reality. In future it may come down. Due to QE buying
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alMac
03-16-2020 at 10:08 AM.
03-16-2020 at 10:08 AM.
Quote from dimagwala :
Investors not buying mortgage bonds. They lose when refinance occurs. 10 yr ate higher than MBS. Lenders reached their limits. Hence increase in rates. Does not make sense, but that's reality. In future it may come down. Due to QE buying

So as long as these lenders are overloaded with customers, i think there is no reason to lower rates. They just might even start to go back up until the demand queue starts to get shorter and thats what I see now. Another thing I have been noticing is that loan origination fees jumped up lately too.
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Dr. J
03-16-2020 at 10:52 AM.
03-16-2020 at 10:52 AM.
Quote from dimagwala :
Investors not buying mortgage bonds. They lose when refinance occurs. 10 yr ate higher than MBS. Lenders reached their limits. Hence increase in rates. Does not make sense, but that's reality. In future it may come down. Due to QE buying
Quote from alMac :
So as long as these lenders are overloaded with customers, i think there is no reason to lower rates. They just might even start to go back up until the demand queue starts to get shorter and thats what I see now. Another thing I have been noticing is that loan origination fees jumped up lately too.

That's about right. They have so much demand there's no reason to compete over price (fees and APR). Didn't take them long to respond collectively. I, for one, thought that it might take a bit longer.
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macb
03-17-2020 at 09:27 AM.
03-17-2020 at 09:27 AM.
I refi'ed 30yr at 3.375 with lender credits fully covering closing and other costs. If I waited a week later, I could've gotten 3.25 with same lender credits. A week later, the rates spiked up as others mention
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