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Datacolor SXP100 SpyderX Pro Colorimeter

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BH PhotoVideo has Datacolor SXP100 SpyderX Pro Colorimeter on sale for $99.99. Shipping is free. Thanks iconian

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This colorimeter pairs with SpyderX software to provide thorough one-click, wizard-guided monitor calibration, along with display mapping and analysis to fine-tune your results.

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BH PhotoVideo has Datacolor SXP100 SpyderX Pro Colorimeter on sale for $99.99. Shipping is free. Thanks iconian

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This colorimeter pairs with SpyderX software to provide thorough one-click, wizard-guided monitor calibration, along with display mapping and analysis to fine-tune your results.

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nightanole
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Every spyder has the same sensor. Only the software package changes. Spyders use organic filters. Organic filter will redshift after 2.5-3.5 years.

If the "display device" is hooked up to a windows pc, it can be calibrated with any spyder. To calibrate a projector you just need to "show" the spyder the picture on a tripod. The spider 4's had this feature, the spyder 5's still had the tripod mount and it was an undocumented feature. The trick still works with the latest spyders.

I know noone wants to hear "just pay double" but the X-rite i1Display (used to be called color monki) is worlds better and wont degrade over time.

So if you just want to true up an ips display (and maybe charge your freinds 10 bucks to true up their displays) get the $100 spyder. If you depend on color for a paycheck/side hustle, or want to use it for more than 2 years, get the x-rite.
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dotBen
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I'm thinking about buying this for my design team now they are all working from home, and letting each of them use it one after the other to calibrate their home monitors.

Does anyone know if the software will let you install onto many computers, as I assume its only needed while you are performing the calibration with the device and then you are done..?

Thanks
Ben
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nightanole
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Quote from dotBen :
I'm thinking about buying this for my design team now they are all working from home, and letting each of them use it one after the other to calibrate their home monitors.

Does anyone know if the software will let you install onto many computers, as I assume its only needed while you are performing the calibration with the device and then you are done..?

Thanks
Ben
You can install the software and load profiles for as many pcs as you like. The unit only has to be plugged in for calibration. So have everyone on your team download and install the pro software (you dont need a key), and then have them mail it to each other.
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aznsniper911
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Anyone have any experience using this on an OLED? Have a couple that wouldn't mind needing calibration
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JayL2087
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How lucky. I needed an upgrade and this goes on sale. I was actually going to buy X-Rite i1Display due to the latter having better sensors, but at $100 I'll bite.
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Quote from JayL2087 :
How lucky. I needed an upgrade and this goes on sale. I was actually going to buy X-Rite i1Display due to the latter having better sensors, but at $100 I'll bite.
Good point, I'll stick with my philosophy for buying tools, buy the cheaper one first then go for the better one once you're unsatisfied with the cheaper one. But the in this case it's kinda hard to tell. :x
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Quote from BoastfulPolice7881 :
I thrown this device away. It's impossible to get same colors on my dual monitor setup.

2 Monitors may NEVER achieve the same color. CCT the way in which the colors are manipulated can not full correct for the underlying difference in backlight.

Even the same model monitor, made on the same line will have slight difference in backlight spectrum. This spectrum will produce a different color regardless of how the rgb numerics are manipulated.

HIGH END monitors are sorted for more rigorous backlight characteristics. But this is expensive, nothing under $2000 (professional monitors). Even Apple's latest HDR display has garbage backlight uniformity.

If you want Matching, you need $2000+ Eizos. or equivalent panels from makers like Flander scientific. Panasonic / Sony proofing reference lines.
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Quote from aznsniper911 :
Anyone have any experience using this on an OLED? Have a couple that wouldn't mind needing calibration
it doesn't work on oled.

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Quote from dotBen :
I'm thinking about buying this for my design team now they are all working from home, and letting each of them use it one after the other to calibrate their home monitors.

Does anyone know if the software will let you install onto many computers, as I assume its only needed while you are performing the calibration with the device and then you are done..?

Thanks
Ben
You don't need to worry about software, because the bundled software is garbage anyway. Both datacolor and xrite have terrible software, and their profile loader is broken half the time.

For PC calibration, use Displaycal. It supports this probe. More importantly, displaycal profile loader WORKS.

I highly recommend xrite probes, These spyderx probes are very inconsistent unit to unit, and they can't read deeply into black, which can create deadzone measurements on some monitors. AVOID spyder5 and spyderX probes @ any price, Maybe $25 , I'd buy one for $25, but no more. If I even have to go up to $50, I'd rather spend $150 for the xrite studio. i1display pro is only $150 during black friday.

Get the Xrite studio or i1display pro for your team.
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Quote from BlackLotus777 :
This is why I love slickdeals.

I love all your knowledge, excellent thank you!

You're last paragraph kills me, so true to slickdeals. Wanna calibrate your friend's monitors with this cool $100 gizmo? CHARGE EM THE PLEASURE OF KNOWING YOU! I guess that's how you pay off the slickdeal and buy the next one!!!

NEVER lend tools. Especially precision instruments. Peace
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Quote from teedee :
I have a benq sw270c which is QHD IPS, but I'm using it at 10-bit color. Do you think the spyder 4 still does OK with this monitor? I ran the calibration but tbh, I couldn't tell since the result came out not much different from the manufacture calibration. Thanks for sharing your thought!
Spyder 4 at this point is unusable in any way, the organic filters have long since drifted past accurate. Throw it out. it's kahput.

Get the Xrite studio, AVOID all current datacolor probes.
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Quote from EJ42 :
I need one of these to calibrate my clothing so that nice "gray" shirt I want to purchase doesn't result in me walking around in hot pink. I mean...my friend.

The type of colorblindness that results in only the rods being functional is very severe, and results in difficulty reading since there are no rods in the macula/fovea. Most colorblindness is really just color deficiency. It's kind of like 16-bit or 20-bit color compared to 24-bit or 32-bit. I can still see green, red, blue, yellow, etc., but not to the degree of separation as most people. I often have trouble telling the difference between black and dark navy blue. I have trouble with purple and blue or pink and gray. Sometimes brown and green may look similar. You can put two colors beside each other, and I can tell that they are different, but not necessarily be able to correctly identify them.
Color vision is the function of either trichromatic sensory vision or tetrachromatic sensory vision (20% of the population)

That means you either have 3 color sensor, or 4 color sensor.

In the case of color blindness, it's a blanketing term that covers many abnormalities, in MOST cases, what you have is 2 of sensors that have a response curve very close to one another, for example Red-Green. They call it red green, but it impacts all color perception.

Normally , there is a bigger response difference between the sensor, that helps with differentiation, but it is "posited" that red-green colorblindness improves detection of camoflage predators in nature, which is why it is sometimes (not always) for the SPOTTER personel assigned to snipers to be a colorblind person.
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Quote from beegeepee :
I was reading the Spyder X changed the filters. Is this incorrect. How do you know the SpyderX uses organic filters that redshift?
Forget about red shift, This sensor's main problem is even at maximum acquisition time, it can not capture enough photons to read deeply into BLACK. That is critical for accurate contrast.

This is a bad product period.
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Quote from fyu :
that's very common.
unless you have two monitors that are almost the exact same, then it won't match.

lots of graphics people use only 1 properly calibrated monitor and the others are just reference.
No, what most graphics -pseudo- professionals use 0 properly calibrated monitors, 1 or 2 that they THINK is properly calibrated, but is actually not remotely close to reference.


To FULLY have a REFERENCE setup, you need to spend at least $2000 for the monitor, $5000 for the Spectrometer to create the backlight compensation curve, and the $200 for the Colorimeter, <something like this probe> but NOT THIS PROBE, because it's trash.
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xtp
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Quote from beowulf7 :
Thanks! Which of those 2 do you prefer?
For TV calibration, you need BOTH displaycal and HCFR.

HCFR works with manual TV menu manipulation to set the rgb balance on the TV, and the primary/secondary gamut targets.

Displaycal, can create gamma compensation curves for system wide 1dimensional correction, and 3dimensional correction profiles (xyz profiles) for color aware applications.

the 3dimensional correction only works in color aware applications, like Madvr renderer, photoshop, things like that.
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Quote from MinisterOfEtc :
The model I purchased is the NEC SpectraSensor Pro -- cheapest one currently listed is $140.

I bought my first one for $49 shipped in 2019, and have a 2nd one NIB I picked up for $21 shipped.

Patience is a virtue (so are eBay saved searches).
In most cases, these should be OK, but again, beyond 5 years, even with the glass sensors, depending on storage , etc, not reliable.

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