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I formulate vitamins for a living. If you see Elder Berries in chewables, it's for flavoring and coloring. Stick to syrup or if you really want the benefits look for Elder Berry Extract in the label claim. Consume Vitamin C, Vitamin B complex, and Zinc in proper dosages to maximize the fight against flu like symptoms and boost immunity defense.
I trust this source on a professional level. So take that as you will. Some good information in this article.

https://www.pharmacytimes.com/con...flu-remedy

tl;dr: elderberries showed some benefit of shortening symptoms of the flu in two studies and have shown to increase antibodies against the flu.

That being said always keep in mind supplements are not regulated by the FDA so manufacturers can basically put whatever they want to on the label. It's a good idea to look for the United States Pharmacopeia (USP) seal which means it was tested by an independent lab that certifies that what the manufacturer says is in the supplement is actually in there. But you're not really going to find that seal on any supplement like elderberry. It's more for simpler measurable supplements like thiamine or zinc or vitamin C etc. Assuming they did in good faith put elderberry in these supplements I'm not sure how effective they would be as those studies were done with a syrup and as far as I know making gummies involves heating which could very well denature the hemagglutinin protein that's thought to be the active ingredient in elderberries. That being said I still bought them and will give them to my 3rd grader with a hope and a prayer as I send her off to school.
Thanks, thats a better reply then just saying its bad.

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roald.dukeness
09-15-2020 at 09:26 AM.
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Any real benefits from the Elderberry or it more like a gimmick?
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ekguru
09-15-2020 at 09:47 AM.
09-15-2020 at 09:47 AM.
Quote from roald.dukeness :
Any real benefits from the Elderberry or it more like a gimmick?

IMO...These are a gimmick ...get the real syrup
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tanman99
09-15-2020 at 10:05 AM.
09-15-2020 at 10:05 AM.
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IMO...These are a gimmick ...get the real syrup

Maple!
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09-15-2020 at 10:14 AM.

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09-15-2020 at 10:14 AM.
Quote from roald.dukeness :
Any real benefits from the Elderberry or it more like a gimmick?

I trust this source on a professional level. So take that as you will. Some good information in this article.

https://www.pharmacytimes.com/con...flu-remedy

tl;dr: elderberries showed some benefit of shortening symptoms of the flu in two studies and have shown to increase antibodies against the flu.

That being said always keep in mind supplements are not regulated by the FDA so manufacturers can basically put whatever they want to on the label. It's a good idea to look for the United States Pharmacopeia (USP) seal which means it was tested by an independent lab that certifies that what the manufacturer says is in the supplement is actually in there. But you're not really going to find that seal on any supplement like elderberry. It's more for simpler measurable supplements like thiamine or zinc or vitamin C etc. Assuming they did in good faith put elderberry in these supplements I'm not sure how effective they would be as those studies were done with a syrup and as far as I know making gummies involves heating which could very well denature the hemagglutinin protein that's thought to be the active ingredient in elderberries. That being said I still bought them and will give them to my 3rd grader with a hope and a prayer as I send her off to school.
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09-15-2020 at 10:34 AM.
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I guess I have no clue other than to trust reviews. I paid $19 for these https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0...a_aw_od_pi

I guess I'll try one of these. I just take one a day. Worse case it's an expensive gummy bear.
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240Vic
09-15-2020 at 10:46 AM.
09-15-2020 at 10:46 AM.
I formulate vitamins for a living. If you see Elder Berries in chewables, it's for flavoring and coloring. Stick to syrup or if you really want the benefits look for Elder Berry Extract in the label claim. Consume Vitamin C, Vitamin B complex, and Zinc in proper dosages to maximize the fight against flu like symptoms and boost immunity defense.
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Bad advice
Why?? lol
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Bad advice

Sorry. I just want to help out others 🤷🏻
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09-15-2020 at 11:23 AM.
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Why?? lol
Well, for one, you shouldn't take "Vitamin B Complex" b/c it has inactive, neurotoxic B6 (pyridoxine) instead of active P5P.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28716455/
Pyridoxine induced cell death in a concentration-dependent way in SHSY5Y cells. ... the present study indicates that the neuropathy observed after taking a relatively high dose of vitamin B6 supplements is due to pyridoxine. The inactive form pyridoxine competitively inhibits the active pyridoxal-5'-phosphate. Consequently, symptoms of vitamin B6 supplementation are similar to those of vitamin B6 deficiency.
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09-15-2020 at 11:26 AM.
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Quote from texst :
Well, for one, you shouldn't take "Vitamin B Complex" b/c it has inactive, neurotoxic B6 (pyridoxine) instead of active P5P.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28716455/
Pyridoxine induced cell death in a concentration-dependent way in SHSY5Y cells. ... the present study indicates that the neuropathy observed after taking a relatively high dose of vitamin B6 supplements is due to pyridoxine. The inactive form pyridoxine competitively inhibits the active pyridoxal-5'-phosphate. Consequently, symptoms of vitamin B6 supplementation are similar to those of vitamin B6 deficiency.
Thanks, thats a better reply then just saying its bad.
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09-15-2020 at 12:22 PM.
09-15-2020 at 12:22 PM.
Thought it was handsome Squidward on the label.
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343guiltyspark
09-15-2020 at 12:30 PM.
09-15-2020 at 12:30 PM.
Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!
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