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Bird ES4-800 Dual Battery 8-Mile Range 800-Watt Motor Electric Scooter (Renewed)

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Walmart has Bird ES4-800 Dual Battery 8-Mile Range 800-Watt Motor Electric Scooter (Renewed) on sale for $199. Shipping is free.

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Experience greater power, range, and speed. With an internal and external lithium ion battery, ES4-800 has a top speed of nearly 15.5 mph and a range of up to 28 miles. The bar for high-performance e-scooters has been raised.

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Walmart has Bird ES4-800 Dual Battery 8-Mile Range 800-Watt Motor Electric Scooter (Renewed) on sale for $199. Shipping is free.

Thanks community member KingL7335 for finding this deal

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Written by persian_mafia | Staff
Experience greater power, range, and speed. With an internal and external lithium ion battery, ES4-800 has a top speed of nearly 15.5 mph and a range of up to 28 miles. The bar for high-performance e-scooters has been raised.

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Buy now, think/return later if you change your mind
5 minutes ago, if you had asked me if I would ever own a electric scooter I would have laughed. ... it will be here Saturday!!!! !!!! Wooooooo!!!!!!!!
yes. one scooter for each person

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antnee
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Quote from Merger :
Also came in a used condition with scratches?

Would appreciate if someone could clarify the word "Renewed" here. When I was buying I thought it stands for renewed model, but turns out it stands foe returned-renewed (refurbished) ?
Renewed means a scooter previously used and certain things were replaced.
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tmdz28
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Quote from Manlet :
Any generic dash on there will do.
Correct
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docu1
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Update. I couldn't replicate my success on my other 2 scooters. Bluetooth is functional, but all attempts to change the serial numbers, firmware or regions/speed fail. I'm stuck with 15mph. Lol
Btw, is the 5.99 contribution mandatory on the Xiaoflasher app? I wonder if the first scooter somehow took the region 30 mph update without paying. I don't mind contributing, but not sure if the fee is really the issue. I tried ninebot iap and ninebot flasher on pc without any luck. Hmmm.
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gtboosted
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Quote from Jackedandshredded :
It took me few days with so mant conflicting information to get this scooter to full potential so to save others time and money here is a quick write up on how to:
1-order a fresh dashboard on amazon this is what i ordered: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TSNV...UTF8&psc=1 , but they areall over ebay and amazon you don't need 50 bucks oem, it is so easy to install and many youtube videos on how tom you need a security bit to unscrew the handle bars. You can get a set here https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Q21R...YFbTCRQVJ3

2- once the dash is installed, download the xiaoflasher app from google play store spelled exactly like this.

3-go to https://esx.cfw.sh/. If you know what your doing, then you can go ahead and do it, if you dont, do what i did to avoid killing yourself or the scooter. Input the following settings:
A-presets:ES4.
B-basics: select DRV139 from drop down, leave the rest alone.
C-power &speed:
- drag the slider to 51000, to stay on the safe side.
-Max speed set it to max unless you want it slower
-Motor start speed: 2kmh
-Kers: if you dont wanr to die like i almost did select KERS/12 ("freewheel") and MAKE SURE NO KERS box is unchecked.
Skip to
4-advanced:leave everything alone except last one, check the box "current based throttle algorithm." Withour this your scooter won't go past 16 mph.

lastly here hit finished time to cook and select xiaoflasher as your app, download the zip file to youe phone where you can find it or to youe computer and send to your phone somehow.

Go to xiaoflasher app,
1-hit the plug logo which will show your scooter if you installed the dash correctly and powered the scooter up. Once you are connected, and scooter beeps, click on select zip file then find the file you downloaded from instructions above.

2-hit flash selected zip file, DONT MESS with anything else yet, and stay next to your scooter obviously until its done.

3- once its done turn scooter off and back on, go back to the xiaoflasher app and connect to your scooter again.


4- if your scooter original serial that showed on top of the app or stamped on bottom of your scooter is N2GRK1841CXXXX or almost the same as this. You need it replace it with N2GTX1601CXXXX. Replace xxxx with last 4 digits of your current serial. Step 5 is how you replace it

5- go to "change region" and hit custom. Wait for the counter if u dont want to donate. Type in the new serial from above N2GTX1601Cxxxx. Replace xxxx with last 4 of your serial.

Hit submit and flash the new serial.

You are done your scooter will now ride smoothly , switch between modes and go rocket speed aka 23mph or more.
Kers/12 Freewheel and setting strong in app killed my scooter just now.

Going 19-20mph on flat terrain I used the electric brake and heard a grinding noise. Turned it off and then on and it doesnt go away even when not using the brake.

Seems to be that I fried the control board based on quick research.

I may be able to repair a "track" or mosfet.

Fyi: check that it's set to weak under the app or try a different configuration.

Edit: swapped the complete stem (handles, stem, batteries, control board etc) from another scooter to the bad scooter and it worked fine.

So the problem is in fact something to do with the control board.
Last edited by gtboosted December 5, 2020 at 01:31 AM.
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Merger
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Guys are you hacking it just for the sake of increasing max speed? Any effect on the range?
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sdtacos250
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Quote from Merger :
Guys are you hacking it just for the sake of increasing max speed? Any effect on the range?
Nope.
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Jackedandshredded
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Quote from gtboosted :
Kers/12 Freewheel and setting strong in app killed my scooter just now.

Going 19-20mph on flat terrain I used the electric brake and heard a grinding noise. Turned it off and then on and it doesnt go away even when not using the brake.

Seems to be that I fried the control board based on quick research.

I may be able to repair a "track" or mosfet.

Fyi: check that it's set to weak under the app or try a different configuration.

Edit: swapped the complete stem (handles, stem, batteries, control board etc) from another scooter to the bad scooter and it worked fine.

So the problem is in fact something to do with the control board.
By default ita on weak, DO NOT set it to strong ever

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Quote from docu1 :
Update. I couldn't replicate my success on my other 2 scooters. Bluetooth is functional, but all attempts to change the serial numbers, firmware or regions/speed fail. I'm stuck with 15mph. Lol
Btw, is the 5.99 contribution mandatory on the Xiaoflasher app? I wonder if the first scooter somehow took the region 30 mph update without paying. I don't mind contributing, but not sure if the fee is really the issue. I tried ninebot iap and ninebot flasher on pc without any luck. Hmmm.
Thx for the update. Maybe your 1st scooter already like that even before you do anything? Maybe try to reinstall the xiaiflasher app? Hopefully you can replicate it.

also, does your 1st scooter have same software version as the other?
Last edited by duasto December 5, 2020 at 06:58 AM.
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every1
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Quote from Wavshrdr :
For IOS, I was able to connect with DarknessBot. It uses AI to dynamically track your range until empty. it also allowed me to turn on and off the undercarriage lights (but not change the colors).

I could also switch the speedo between miles and km but it seems like it might be inverted. It also has alarms you can set when you reach a certain speed, amperage, power and temp. You can have the alarms vibrate, sound, voice or even all 3.

You can also use it record video of your trips. Or have it integrate with siri to check things such as remaining mileage, battery level, etc. Siri will announce the info. It is a pretty cool app though not all features work with my Bird.
Wavshrdr, were you able to connect with the Segway app?

Anyone else with iOS get to try DarknessBot. Seems like it would be a great addition to those looking for basic functionality and can't connect with the Segway app.
Last edited by every1 December 5, 2020 at 07:46 AM.
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JustAnotherSlob
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Quote from bethi :
Yes, you can always buy warranty later. Just goto walmart.com under services -> Protection plans... it should list items which you bought and eligible to buy warranty.
I checked out as a guest and then added an account, and that broke this. Irony is that I think I created the account because "view eligible plans" seems to require you to login...


My "buy a protection plan" link now forces me to login and gets me "you don't have an eligible item". Walmart is unable to attach the order to my account.

Walmart connects me to squaretrade, squaretrade tells me that their policy is not to sell ride-on protection plans, and that Walmart can do it. Back and forth. On the phone now with them trying to figure it out. Squaretrade also wants to see the item on the website, which is a problem since the link has changed.

I wonder if having walmart remove my account can help.

Update: Walmart.com is now telling me to reach out to my local store, and maybe they can help. I cannot fathom how such a dumpster wreck of a system became so big...maybe that's why Walmart.com is so much smaller than Amazon.

Update: No joy. Local store can only sell a plan when they sell the item. Back to Walmart.com.
Last edited by JustAnotherSlob December 5, 2020 at 08:46 AM.
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Quote from sdtacos250 :
Nope.
Are there any other benefits besides the max speed?
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guardianx99
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will this dashboard work if i want to change this to a personal scooter??


https://www.amazon.com/Foldable-E...156&sr=8-4
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Quote from TriPhoto :
Anyone buying the 2 or 3 year protection plan?
Extra warranties provide peace of mind on large purchases, but are usually favorable to the store not consumer. At this price and based on how rapidly this tech changes year to year, I wouldn't recommend a warranty.
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Quote from alexchud87 :
Extra warranties provide peace of mind on large purchases, but are usually favorable to the store not consumer. At this price and based on how rapidly this tech changes year to year, I wouldn't recommend a warranty.
Thanks alex trebek
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Quote from duasto :
Thx for the update. Maybe your 1st scooter already like that even before you do anything? Maybe try to reinstall the xiaiflasher app? Hopefully you can replicate it.

also, does your 1st scooter have same software version as the other?
It definitely didn't have the speed modes and was limited to 15mph. The software is the same versions as the other two. The only difference is the first scooter allowed a serial number change. A mystery to me.

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