Starlink - $99

usercar007

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Cow_ranch

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Quote from Jaggsta

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$100 for internet just as bad as cable companies.

Bad is relative. The cheapest Viasat plan in my zip code is $110 with the lease fee. For that you get up to 12Mbps (might see 5), 35GB before reducing to less than 1Mbps, and full time 360p streaming limited. $210 is the same speed, 65GB, and 720p.

The fiber I'm closest to is 50Mbps. No unlimited option, it's usage based. $20 plus $0.20 per gig used.

The village has DSL, 15 miles away. It's $85 for up to 5Mbps, and it doesn't work well enough to stream audio without cutting out a lot of the time, let alone video.

I only know a handful of people that can get anything better than 5Mbps installed in their house. I use a jetpack, no land options at all. Verizon tower is 13 miles away. Luckily I can get about 20/15.

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Knightshade

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Quote from SmilingMorning4257

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I don't get this project. I know it will offer wired line like service to rural Westerners at a fair but not great price. But what about connecting poor people who live in the Amazon rainforest or in the middle of nowhere? I was thinking that satellite internet could even help people who live in dystopian nightmare countries like North Korea, Russia, China. But $100 is too much for the aforementioned groups. This was never about the masses or repressed. Oh, well.

Same business model as Tesla.

You launch the more expensive product marketed to the richest customers first to pay for the initial startup costs (Roadster G1 then model S/X)

Then offer a cheaper product later to expand even more and lower costs significantly. (Model 3/Y)

Then offer an even cheaper product than that once your cash flow is strongly positive from steps 1 and 2 (Model 2 coming in a couple years)

How else do you afford to launch thousands of satellites, build a back-end infrastructure to support them, and then sell it for basically nothing to the 3rd world?

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KypMadak

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Quote from abstraxion

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Lmao the city and suburb crowd is here to tell rural folk that 100mbps internet with 20ms latency for 99 bucks a month is bad

Right?! I've had 2mbs internet for the last 15 years and I pay $80 a month for it.

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Cow_ranch

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Quote from jneset

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Their current Home internet guarantees 25meg down already should be plenty for vast majority.
Seems like most aren't even aware of that option? Unless their address truly doesn't qualify.
Unsure of actual speed, but it's deployed with that kind of promise in a rural lakeside location where coverage barely stable comes in with Moto G Power models & barely gets 2meg down on those phones.

That's not available in a lot of rural locations (based on observations of several rural internet forums). Tmobile service of any kind is a 50 mile drive in one direction, over 100 in the other, nothing but roaming in between. And none of the checked addresses offer home service.

Quote from SmilingMorning4257

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I don't get this project. I know it will offer wired line like service to rural Westerners at a fair but not great price. But what about connecting poor people who live in the Amazon rainforest or in the middle of nowhere? I was thinking that satellite internet could even help people who live in dystopian nightmare countries like North Korea, Russia, China. But $100 is too much for the aforementioned groups. This was never about the masses or repressed. Oh, well.

The country's government has to approve it for it to be offered. Russia? No, they said they'd fine people that use it. They'll vary pricing in poorer regions, but I suspect they'll wait until the network is much farther along.

kigmatzomat

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kigmatzomat

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Quote from pusti1

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Yup. Starlink, if it delivers its advertised beta speeds, would be the best internet you can get in a remote part of the world by a huge margin.

This isn't necessarily a deal compared to typical broadband in population centers, but it's the cheapest you are going to get broadband internet in the country. Given that it's the only broadband internet you can realistically get out there.

Remote areas? I am 15mi and the next county over from the downtown of a city of 1 million. My best wired internet was $100/mo 2Mb dsl.

I am currently using att fixed wireless, which is 15-25Mb for $60/mo but there can only be so many customers per tower so if you aren't the first 2 or 3 people in a square mile to sign up, you can't have it. That also means there's no option to get two for double bandwidth.

Going to 50-150mb would be a massive improvement.

I actually kept the 2Mb dsl ($100/mo) over the summer of covid while also paying for the ATT. The Roku was the only device connected so someone could stream TV while the others were working. (Yes, you can stream on 2Mb. Not great but its mostly HD if you avoid things with too many explosions)

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kigmatzomat

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Quote from jneset

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Their current Home internet guarantees 25meg down already should be plenty for vast majority.
Seems like most aren't even aware of that option? Unless their address truly doesn't qualify.
Unsure of actual speed, but it's deployed with that kind of promise in a rural lakeside location where coverage barely stable comes in with Moto G Power models & barely gets 2meg down on those phones.

Cellular based fixed internet has provisioning limitations. There are only so many slots per tower, which are first come first served. Even at a low density rural 1 person/acre, a tower serving 1 sq mile will have a couple hundred homes in their service area and there are definitely not a couple hundred slots available.

Or if there are, service will be abysmal.

Wand

Feb 9, 2021

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Quote from dcpoor

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Anyone know what speeds people are getting from the Beta tests?
Upload speed and latency as well.

Edit: Eeek Frown

Hardware
$499.00

Service
$99.00 /mo

Shipping & Handling
$50.00

Tax
$56.28

Due Today
$99.00

Elon guaranteed 100 Mbps but people are getting 130 easily.

https://youtu.be/2-nQOIZ1IwY

man00

Feb 9, 2021

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man00

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When are the Caps coming and they will ?

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reactionary

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Quote from Knightshade

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This.

If you use real data instead of the junk the recent FCC was putting out, something like half of americans don't have real broadband access.

Fastest I can get at my house is 8 Mb DSL, no matter how much I'm willing to pay.

And I only get that without a data cap by paying business rates.

I'd happily pay double what Starlink is asking just to get half the average speed users of starlink in the beta are receiving.

Even that would be 5x faster than what I have now.

If I got average starlink beta speeds it'd be a 10x improvement.

And the targeted final speeds would be a roughly 120x improvement over the best I can get now.

https://www.fastcompany.com/90599...-elon-musk [fastcompany.com]

DSL, 3 Mb on a GOOD day...

Still, $500 hardware fee is pretty steep.

Verizon and T-Mobile both tell me I'm not eligible for their home services.
It's not like I don't have the possibility of service, they just won't sell to me.
For WFH, my employer provides me with a Verizon hotspot, 25 Mb is typical.
(had to, since my home service makes remote desktop nearly impossible to use)
I did the T-Mobile free hotspot thing, 10-15 Mb.
My landline is with a small telecom. Currently satellite for TV, but that's mostly garbage anymore.

thebtran

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thebtran

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finally i can ditch spectrum soon....

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blueletterd

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blueletterd

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Is there a marine solution for boats?

PeteyTheStriker

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PeteyTheStriker

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For people always on the move, this seems like a great internet option, its only pricey when compared to established areas with high speed infrastructure. If you live out of a RV or a rural area, this might be your best option yet.

I did not see any mention of data caps, that would be the deciding factor, if they enforce caps, this service will not be worth it depending on how low the cap is set.

sleepybubba

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sleepybubba

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Quote from Jaggsta

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$100 for internet just as bad as cable companies.

This is what I paid to Comcast (which is the only option in my area) for 1GB speed. In reality this is rarely higher than 600Mbps. I would gladly pay this for Starlink instead had they offered reliable 500Mbps only not to ever deal with Crapcast

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SkaHot

Feb 9, 2021

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SkaHot

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link in OP seems to only be for England/Great Britain?
regionCode=GB
https://www.starlink.com/legal/te...ionCode=GB

would US link be this?:
regionCode=US
https://www.starlink.com/legal/te...ionCode=US

Last edited by SkaHot February 9, 2021 at 08:52 AM.

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