HP Omen 15z Laptop: RTX 3070, Ryzen 7 5800H, 15.6" 144Hz, 16GB DDR4, 512GB SSD EXPIRED

That's a beast! And a super good price.

Anyone have thoughts on cooling, throttling, and wattage of the 3070? I've been reading that you can't just go by the name of the video card anymore, because a low wattage card will be less powerful than a higher wattage lower end card...

Although I'd prefer these specs at 17" for hopefully a more efficient cooling system. I'd actually prefer a Legion with these specs, but who knows when Lenovo is going to get their stuff together...

My only issue with most of these 30xx laptop deals is they seem to be getting rid of their garbage/so-so displays with only 300 nits brightness and only 1080p and there are no display upgrade options.

Where are the QHD(+) versions on these!

Just some details on this model, as I've been in the market for a good 3070/Ryzen7 or 9 laptop lately. I ended up opting for a more mobile Asus Zephyrus G15 w/3070 and 5900HS, but the Omen 15 2021 refresh was very close to being my first pick.

Display - Good but basic. 144hz has become a standard for 1080p screens. The only disappointment with this display is that it maxes at 300 nits, which isn't too dim, but it's not impressive either. What many consider the minimum for gaming laptops in the $1000+ range.

Thermals - very, very good. The laptop hasn't changed much from the 2020 model, and has one of the best designed heatsink/fan setups in this range.

Memory - Two slots for user changeable SODIMMs on the bottom. Thankfully no soldered RAM here.

GPU - 3070 80w w/dynamic boost, so basically maxes out around 100w. Because the thermal system is good, it generally handles this well, and there are no reports that it thermal throttles. It won't beat bulkier 115-130w mobile 3070 laptops, but it will beat previous generation 2070 115w "Max-P" by 10-20% depending on the game.

CPU - The Ryzen 7 5800H is basically a stones throw away from the Ryzen 9's, within the top tier of current mobile CPUs. If gaming is what you desire, this is as good as you need for any game. The GPU is the real focus there however. Just like the Ryzen 9's, it's 8 core / 16 thread, it just has a lower max boost clock and base speed.

Storage - 2x NVMe M.2 slots, one on either side of the battery. Fairly standard in this class.

Battery - reports say battery life is similar to last year's model, so 5-7 hours battery life for general use, which is quite good for a 3070 laptop. Gaming as usual will drain the battery much faster, in 1-2 hours.

Aesthetics - a really professional looking laptop that can easily blend into an office. A big reason I nearly bought it.

Fans - when gaming or pushing it hard, the fans are on the higher side of average. Not bad, but very noticeable.

Great review of this model:
https://youtu.be/7nki6uLKLQs

I have an msi laptop with rtx 2070 and i7 10th gen do you guys think I should upgrade to this one? Alway want to try the power of rtx3xxx seri

Quote from OrangeJulius : Just some details on this model, as I've been in the market for a good 3070/Ryzen7 or 9 laptop lately. I ended up opting for a more mobile Asus Zephyrus G15 w/3070 and 5900HS, but this laptop was very close to being my first pick. Display - Good but basic. 144hz has become a standard for 1080p screens. The only disappointment with this display is that it maxes as 300 nits, which isn't too dim, but it's not impressive either. What many consider the minimum for gaming laptops in the $1000+ range. Thermals - very, very good. The laptop hasn't changed much from the 2020 model, and has one of the best designed heatsink/fan setups in this range. Memory - Two slots for user changeable SODIMMs on the bottom. Thankfully no soldered RAM here. GPU - 3070 80w w/dynamic boost, so basically maxes out around 100w. Because the thermal system is good, it generally handles this well, and there are no reports that it thermal throttles. It won't beat bulkier 115-130w mobile 3070 laptops, but it will beat previous generation 2070 115w "Max-P" by 10-20% depending on the game. CPU - The Ryzen 7 5800H is basically a stones throw away from the Ryzen 9's, within the top tier of current mobile CPUs. If gaming is what you desire, this is as good as you need for any game. The GPU is the real focus there however. Just like the Ryzen 9's, it's 8 core / 16 thread, it just has a lower max boost clock and base speed. Storage - 2x NVMe M.2 slots, one on either side of the battery. Fairly standard in this class. Battery - reports say battery life is similar to last year's model, so 5-7 hours battery life for general use, which is quite good for a 3070 laptop. Gaming as usual will drain the battery much faster, in 1-2 hours. Aesthetics - a really professional looking laptop that can easily blend into an office. A big reason I nearly bought it. Fans - when gaming or pushing it hard, the fans are on the higher side of average. Not bad, but very noticeable. Great review of this model: https://youtu.be/7nki6uLKLQs

The only thing I hate about the Asus Zephyrus G15 is it doesn't have a webcam. Asus started taking the webcams out of their gaming laptops to make the screen almost borderless. People are still working from home or gaming online so all laptops should have a webcam. It's 2021, they're not that expensive anymore!

FHD is out. Can't deal with it. Need QHD these days. DLSS is great.

Quote from MrMike25 : The only thing I hate about the Asus Zephyrus G15 is it doesn't have a webcam. Asus started taking the webcams out of their gaming laptops to make the screen almost borderless. People are still working from home or gaming online so all laptops should have a webcam. It's 2021, they're not that expensive anymore!

Yeah, don't get me started. It was probably the largest factor I skipped the G14 last year, besides the RTX 2060 Max-Q being anemic.

I decided I'd just get a decent 1080p webcam and use that instead. Annoying, but the laptops weighs so little that it won't add much to my backpack. Still nonsensical on Asus' part.

What I find stupid is that my GL65 has a bezel that is just as thin, but they managed to make a webcam work just fine.

Quote from Alexandra24 : I have an msi laptop with rtx 2070 and i7 10th gen do you guys think I should upgrade to this one? Alway want to try the power of rtx3xxx seri

I have a GL65 w/ 10750H and 115w 2070 so I'm guessing we have similar setups. This Omen 15 will be around 10-20% faster depending on the game. The more GPU intensive the game (Cyberpunk, for instance) the better the improvement.

I'm replacing my GL65 not because of the performance improvement, but because of the battery life and "gamer" aesthetic that embarrasses me when I bring it to the office.

It's hard for me to recommend upgrading just for performance, as it's likely not as big an improvement as you'd hope. I suppose you can sell your current laptop to make up for some of the cost.

Quote from Alexandra24 : I have an msi laptop with rtx 2070 and i7 10th gen do you guys think I should upgrade to this one? Alway want to try the power of rtx3xxx seri

Depending on your needs. You may not need 3070 if your current laptop is good enough. Why waste your money?

Quote from Alexandra24 : I have an msi laptop with rtx 2070 and i7 10th gen do you guys think I should upgrade to this one? Alway want to try the power of rtx3xxx seri

No, not if you're primary usage is for games. You won't notice enough of a difference for it to be really worth it IMO. If you really want it that badly check how much you can sell your existing laptop for first to see how much it would cost you to upgrade.

If you use your laptop for a lot of productivity and work that can make use of the Ryzen processor, though, then it may be worth the upgrade.

Quote from OrangeJulius : I have a GL65 w/ 10750H and 115w 2070 so I'm guessing we have similar setups. This Omen 15 will be around 10-20% faster depending on the game. The more GPU intensive the game (Cyberpunk, for instance) the better the improvement. I'm replacing my GL65 not because of the performance improvement, but because of the battery life and "gamer" aesthetic that embarrasses me when I bring it to the office. It's hard for me to recommend upgrading just for performance, as it's likely not as big an improvement as you'd hope. I suppose you can sell your current laptop to make up for some of the cost.

From your setup, Omen 15 upgrade not worth because of the lower 85W TDP of the RTX 3070. In most cases, that performance difference will be 10 to 12%, 15% in very handful of games. Better wait for the New Alienware R5 Ryzen and Lenovo Legion 5 and 5 Pro series. Alienware going to have 110W+ 3070 and Legion series coming with full 130-140W 3070.

Be careful with HP. Those guys think they are above all. Charging your credit card right away, not like other stores the day of shipment! I have not received my order I placed since March and of course they charged my card the day I submitted the order! Outrageous! I'll be complaining to the Better Business Bureau!

I bought mine in February. Still waiting.
Edit: It was delayed again until May 25th. They are blaming supply chain shortages. They told me I can buy another laptop or cancel my order if I don't want to wait.