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Jun 8, 2021 10:52 PM
TICONN T-Tap Wire Connectors: 480-Pc $14, 240-PC $8.40, 120-Pc
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In the end, after years of car electronics work, I've learned to just say no to T-taps. A quick military splice [gm-trucks.com] is an all-around better/more dependable splice when you cannot access either end of a wire.
Current doesn't travel on the circumference of stranded wire. That's not how it works. It sounds like you are misunderstanding the skin effect that causes current to travel in the "skin" of conductors at high frequencies. This is a byproduct of some RF behavior and isn't relevant until you to get into the 10s of Kilohertz. At DC and 60Hz the skin effect is negligible and the full cross section of the wire will carry current evenly regardless of stranding.
Catching the external wires doesn't create a bottleneck as you suggest. This isn't a situation where the flow of current is only as strong as the weakest link. If you look at the math for conductors and total resistivity per unit length, it is perfectly acceptable to have very small regions of poor conductivity as their relative contribution per unit length to the total resistance of the system is negligible. The only exception to this is if there is sufficient heat generated at those points where the resistance is slightly higher. I couldn't comment on the resistance of a particular T-tap junction, but catching out wires in and of itself don't necessarily reduce the performance.
Solid wire vs stranded wire does not improve or retard current flow in any significant way. It all looks like a bulk conductor of specified cross sectional area for all intents and purposes (at the frequencies being discussed here).
That said, is a solder connection better? OF COURSE? Is it a huge hassle? YES. Would I do a solder connection instead? Yes I would, unless it was time or cost prohibitive.
These 3M copycats are probably fine for very low amperage on a size up wire, but when it matters, one might opt for protected soldered connections.
If say, you are using the full amperage of a 12guage stranded wire, whereas the current is traveling on the circumference of each strand of wire, the splice connection is the bottleneck by catching just the external wires. These would supply most of the rated current better with solid wire, but the wire tension loosens over time to cause arcing.
As an example, these will probably work fine for low wattage LED trailer lights if you waterproof the connection.
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These 3M copycats are probably fine for very low amperage on a size up wire, but when it matters, one might opt for protected soldered connections.
If say, you are using the full amperage of a 12guage stranded wire, whereas the current is traveling on the circumference of each strand of wire, the splice connection is the bottleneck by catching just the external wires. These would supply most of the rated current better with solid wire, but the wire tension loosens over time to cause arcing.
As an example, these will probably work fine for low wattage LED trailer lights if you waterproof the connection.
In the end, after years of car electronics work, I've learned to just say no to T-taps. A quick military splice [gm-trucks.com] is an all-around better/more dependable splice when you cannot access either end of a wire.
In the end, after years of car electronics work, I've learned to just say no to T-taps. A quick military splice [gm-trucks.com] is an all-around better/more dependable splice when you cannot access either end of a wire.
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These 3M copycats are probably fine for very low amperage on a size up wire, but when it matters, one might opt for protected soldered connections.
If say, you are using the full amperage of a 12guage stranded wire, whereas the current is traveling on the circumference of each strand of wire, the splice connection is the bottleneck by catching just the external wires. These would supply most of the rated current better with solid wire, but the wire tension loosens over time to cause arcing.
As an example, these will probably work fine for low wattage LED trailer lights if you waterproof the connection.
Current doesn't travel on the circumference of stranded wire. That's not how it works. It sounds like you are misunderstanding the skin effect that causes current to travel in the "skin" of conductors at high frequencies. This is a byproduct of some RF behavior and isn't relevant until you to get into the 10s of Kilohertz. At DC and 60Hz the skin effect is negligible and the full cross section of the wire will carry current evenly regardless of stranding.
Catching the external wires doesn't create a bottleneck as you suggest. This isn't a situation where the flow of current is only as strong as the weakest link. If you look at the math for conductors and total resistivity per unit length, it is perfectly acceptable to have very small regions of poor conductivity as their relative contribution per unit length to the total resistance of the system is negligible. The only exception to this is if there is sufficient heat generated at those points where the resistance is slightly higher. I couldn't comment on the resistance of a particular T-tap junction, but catching out wires in and of itself don't necessarily reduce the performance.
Solid wire vs stranded wire does not improve or retard current flow in any significant way. It all looks like a bulk conductor of specified cross sectional area for all intents and purposes (at the frequencies being discussed here).
That said, is a solder connection better? OF COURSE? Is it a huge hassle? YES. Would I do a solder connection instead? Yes I would, unless it was time or cost prohibitive.
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