Home Depot has Pioneer Low-Ambient 12,000 BTU 1 Ton 19 SEER Ductless Mini Split Wall Mounted Inverter Air Conditioner with Heat Pump on sale for $614.40. Shipping is free.
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Features:
Cooling capacity: 12,000 BTU/hour with 19.0 SEER efficiency
Heating capacity: 12,500 BTU/H with 9.5 HSPF efficiency
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Home Depot has Pioneer Low-Ambient 12,000 BTU 1 Ton 19 SEER Ductless Mini Split Wall Mounted Inverter Air Conditioner with Heat Pump on sale for $614.40. Shipping is free.
Thanks community member n74740 for sharing this deal
Features:
Cooling capacity: 12,000 BTU/hour with 19.0 SEER efficiency
Heating capacity: 12,500 BTU/H with 9.5 HSPF efficiency
I installed this exact model this past summer. Overall it is a very well thought out package and it is very doable to install yourself, but that also depends largely on your ability. There are some special tools you need to have like a manifold gauge set and vacuum pump, but those can be had fairly cheap and it's a good reason to buy new tools! The best advice is to go on youtube where there are videos of people installing these.
From last time this was posted. Great insight and info
"I own 3 pioneer's now. Honestly, for the price, it beats the Mr Cool that is always posted.
Never got the chance to posting the deal either, apologies to anyone.
No I'm not an electrician, nor a HVAC expert.
Regular person who just YT's everything and learn as I go. I did this to save money.
The first pioneer I bought in 17' I think, that was a 12k BTU, much lower SEER than my current ones.
Here's a few pointers and info at a glance:
DIAMANTE series was recently released, aesthetically it looks different, there's a small chart that tells you the difference in the temperatures it can run compared to the other models, it MAY be worth it to look into it, also it comes with 16" line set that can't be changed on the website (you can add or use your own line set to make it longer).
Out of all the models, DIAMANTE series is cheaper.
Second and third bought last year and this year. Both are 12k BTU's and rated at SEER 20 (115v), the 230v drops it down to 19 SEER. This is the DIAMANTE series that I have.
Prices went up by $50 or so dollars since I bought it, probably due to the shortage.
Yes they are made for DIY. Refrigerant is in the compressor (outdoor unit).
Pioneer CONSTANTLY updates their product without mentioning, and IMO, for the better.
My second unit was bought only a few months apart from my third unit.
The condensation line is a different and better quality.
Change in the plastic part that protects the lines inside the wall.
Different anti-vibration pads.
Register your product! It'll give you a 5 year warranty as opposed to 1 year if you don't.
IF you live in Miami, or anywhere near South Florida, go to their warehouse, and pick it up. I made the 2 hour (to and back) to their warehouse and picked it up to save on the delivery charges. Why?
Because Pioneer website COST MORE than their sister website? www.Highseer.com
BOTH websites/companies are the same. And the parent company Parker Davis.
Google PD and their website even has tutorials on taking your minisplit apart or installing it if you need to.
Can't control this through Wi-Fi, but I heard and they promote it on their website, on using the Cielo Breeze AC controller (Amazon it). No experience there but it seems you can control with smart apps/phone as well as a regular thermostat controller.
If you live in a hot area, just leave it on COOL and not Auto. It'll still turn off the outside unit and run when it needs to, but Auto feature sucks, IMO.
Also, hire an electrician if you don't know or can't make the connection, not worth your life.
Tools I invested while l learned back in 17' that I still use today:
5lb R410a refrigerant tank from offerup
Gauge set from Highseer (don't buy automobile gauges)
Pipe cutter from Home Depot
Flare tool from Home Depot
Vacuum pump from Harbor Freight
Adapter from 5/16" SAE to 1/4" SAE (This is a need if you don't have one to connect your gauges to vacuum it)
Proper gloves to mitigate any freeze burns from the refrigerant.
Save $153.60? Do your research first and then buy the best unit that fits your needs, you can't just guess at sizing. Many of the newer name brands have features that the older lower priced ones don't have. The new coatings and ease of cleaning make the mold problem easier to deal with. Yes, after a while many units develop mold that requires cleaning, it can be an easy job or not depending on the brand and model. SEER and low temp operation differ vastly from low to high priced units. It's not something that you want to just impulse buy.....and regret later.
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Good find OP. These are extremely efficient and could easily heat or cool 1000sq ft if it's decently insulated.
how efficient? anyone know the estimated cost difference between running these vs running a central air system? let's say. 2 of these to cool 2k Sq ft vs 1 central air unit to cool the same area+
how efficient? anyone know the estimated cost difference between running these vs running a central air system? let's say. 2 of these to cool 2k Sq ft vs 1 central air unit to cool the same area+
Depends what your current system efficiency is and where you're located. Guessing you may cut your energy usage in half if its an older system.
How easy is this to install yourself? If difficult, how much would you expect to pay someone?
I installed this exact model this past summer. Overall it is a very well thought out package and it is very doable to install yourself, but that also depends largely on your ability. There are some special tools you need to have like a manifold gauge set and vacuum pump, but those can be had fairly cheap and it's a good reason to buy new tools! The best advice is to go on youtube where there are videos of people installing these.
It says out of stock for me, do you have a different link?
Ya I probably would have bought if the 120v was in stock. Need to do whole house but want to start with one. Have grow room i use for vegetables and this would just make maitinging temps/humidity easy. But just spending $600 on this is already sort of luxury item so find it hard to justify. When do house im not homing to be as penny pinching...
220 not hard but im out of space in CBP as it is and 220 would take two spaces. Im already having to share the last two spot between welder and 18k Window AC (swap CBs as needed I know....but both are rarely used). I assume cost of running 220 will also be higher just given wires. I have 250ft 12/2 but Idk what this calls for as can also depend on length. Probably calls for 10g?
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This is very promising as a solution to a master bedroom that is the last stop in the line and heats and cools inadequately. I looked at the installation instructions and they are sparse at best. Can anyone speak to, or point to a better instruction set, that will help me visualize the level of effort/skill required?
Alternately, what would be the best guess (I understand there will be a range of costs) for an electrician to install this in an upper story, with the outside unit being at ground level? $200? $500? Any idea? (would get the 120 so no additional wiring I hope).
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Save $153.60? Do your research first and then buy the best unit that fits your needs, you can't just guess at sizing. Many of the newer name brands have features that the older lower priced ones don't have. The new coatings and ease of cleaning make the mold problem easier to deal with. Yes, after a while many units develop mold that requires cleaning, it can be an easy job or not depending on the brand and model. SEER and low temp operation differ vastly from low to high priced units. It's not something that you want to just impulse buy.....and regret later.
Ya I probably would have bought if the 120v was in stock. Need to do whole house but want to start with one. Have grow room i use for vegetables and this would just make maitinging temps/humidity easy. But just spending $600 on this is already sort of luxury item so find it hard to justify. When do house im not homing to be as penny pinching...
220 not hard but im out of space in CBP as it is and 220 would take two spaces. Im already having to share the last two spot between welder and 18k Window AC (swap CBs as needed I know....but both are rarely used). I assume cost of running 220 will also be higher just given wires. I have 250ft 12/2 but Idk what this calls for as can also depend on length. Probably calls for 10g?
At best, 12,000 Btu minisplit for insulated 500 sq ft room. (ie, converted garage). It is not adequate for me, even though attic insulated and walls insulated. Reason: one runs the system in economy quiet mode, which only puts out about 50% BTU heat or cool. I have installed such a system, and it helps, but will be uncomfortable in the heat of summer, even at 100% power.
How noisy is the outside unit. Or how much would two more line sets, self installed be.
Outside unit on inverters is damn quiet. More central acs are going inverter to run longer times to pull more humidity at less power making them much more efficient
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"I own 3 pioneer's now. Honestly, for the price, it beats the Mr Cool that is always posted.
Never got the chance to posting the deal either, apologies to anyone.
No I'm not an electrician, nor a HVAC expert.
Regular person who just YT's everything and learn as I go. I did this to save money.
The first pioneer I bought in 17' I think, that was a 12k BTU, much lower SEER than my current ones.
Here's a few pointers and info at a glance:
DIAMANTE series was recently released, aesthetically it looks different, there's a small chart that tells you the difference in the temperatures it can run compared to the other models, it MAY be worth it to look into it, also it comes with 16" line set that can't be changed on the website (you can add or use your own line set to make it longer).
Out of all the models, DIAMANTE series is cheaper.
Second and third bought last year and this year. Both are 12k BTU's and rated at SEER 20 (115v), the 230v drops it down to 19 SEER. This is the DIAMANTE series that I have.
Prices went up by $50 or so dollars since I bought it, probably due to the shortage.
Yes they are made for DIY. Refrigerant is in the compressor (outdoor unit).
Pioneer CONSTANTLY updates their product without mentioning, and IMO, for the better.
My second unit was bought only a few months apart from my third unit.
The condensation line is a different and better quality.
Change in the plastic part that protects the lines inside the wall.
Different anti-vibration pads.
Register your product! It'll give you a 5 year warranty as opposed to 1 year if you don't.
IF you live in Miami, or anywhere near South Florida, go to their warehouse, and pick it up. I made the 2 hour (to and back) to their warehouse and picked it up to save on the delivery charges. Why?
Because Pioneer website COST MORE than their sister website? www.Highseer.co
BOTH websites/companies are the same. And the parent company Parker Davis.
Google PD and their website even has tutorials on taking your minisplit apart or installing it if you need to.
Can't control this through Wi-Fi, but I heard and they promote it on their website, on using the Cielo Breeze AC controller (Amazon it). No experience there but it seems you can control with smart apps/phone as well as a regular thermostat controller.
If you live in a hot area, just leave it on COOL and not Auto. It'll still turn off the outside unit and run when it needs to, but Auto feature sucks, IMO.
Also, hire an electrician if you don't know or can't make the connection, not worth your life.
Tools I invested while l learned back in 17' that I still use today:
5lb R410a refrigerant tank from offerup
Gauge set from Highseer (don't buy automobile gauges)
Pipe cutter from Home Depot
Flare tool from Home Depot
Vacuum pump from Harbor Freight
Adapter from 5/16" SAE to 1/4" SAE (This is a need if you don't have one to connect your gauges to vacuum it)
Proper gloves to mitigate any freeze burns from the refrigerant.
TDLR;
Pioneer is an amazing brand.
5 year warranty on most if not all models now, INCLUDING if you DIY, as long as you register within the timeframe.
Buy at Highseer.com and not Pioneerminisplit.com; same company, same warehouse, same parent company, cheaper.
Go for DIAMANTE series if your okay with 16" line set (and able to run within your temps)
Pickup at warehouse if you live in South Florida.
Wi-Fi module is extra. Look into Cielo Breeze AC Controller"
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edit: nvm this is 230v so too much hassle to get that installed as well
edit: nvm this is 230v so too much hassle to get that installed as well
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220 not hard but im out of space in CBP as it is and 220 would take two spaces. Im already having to share the last two spot between welder and 18k Window AC (swap CBs as needed I know....but both are rarely used). I assume cost of running 220 will also be higher just given wires. I have 250ft 12/2 but Idk what this calls for as can also depend on length. Probably calls for 10g?
Alternately, what would be the best guess (I understand there will be a range of costs) for an electrician to install this in an upper story, with the outside unit being at ground level? $200? $500? Any idea? (would get the 120 so no additional wiring I hope).
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220 not hard but im out of space in CBP as it is and 220 would take two spaces. Im already having to share the last two spot between welder and 18k Window AC (swap CBs as needed I know....but both are rarely used). I assume cost of running 220 will also be higher just given wires. I have 250ft 12/2 but Idk what this calls for as can also depend on length. Probably calls for 10g?
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I haven't seen it this low, pretty good price for this unit.
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