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Neighbor spoofing

3,284 April 22, 2022 at 02:43 PM
Someone is using my number to call anyone starting with the same area code + 3 first digits. So that's a pool of about 10000 numbers. They dial and hang up. I get about 20-50 calls per day asking me why I called or telling me to stop $%^& calling.

Besides changing the number, is there any other way to relieve this stress?
And what's the purpose... a prank?

(Free Ooma number so I don't want to give it up. Oh hey... maybe it's Ooma trying to convince me to switch to something else?).
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04-22-2022 at 05:57 PM.
04-22-2022 at 05:57 PM.
Quote from Wasser :
Someone is using my number to call anyone starting with the same area code + 3 first digits. So that's a pool of about 10000 numbers. They dial and hang up. I get about 20-50 calls per day asking me why I called or telling me to stop $%^& calling.

Besides changing the number, is there any other way to relieve this stress?
And what's the purpose... a prank?

(Free Ooma number so I don't want to give it up. Oh hey... maybe it's Ooma trying to convince me to switch to something else?).
Robocallers like car warranty scammers just pick random numbers to use for the outgoing caller id to make their scam calls. In theory it's getting a little harder with shaken/stir but not much.

I'd suggest keeping your number, enough things try to use phone numbers as authentication tokens I'm not sure you should ever really willingly give up a phone number these days. you can always 'park' a DID for about $1/mo

As for what you can do about it, it will most likely blow over in a few days, possibly a bit longer. Call in to your voicemail (even if you use visual voicemail normally), and poke around the greeting menu until you find the option to set up an "extended absence greeting" that says something like
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"I did not call you, a scammer using fake caller id made a robo call to you that appeared to be from this number if you'd like to complain to someone about the call you received, please write your senator"
anyone who calls you will get this message before your normal greeting followed by a message prompting "if you'd still like to leave a message please press 1".

If you're having trouble setting up an extended absence greeting google 'your cell phone carrier extended absence greeting'

EDIT: sorry re-read your post, it's ooma not a cell number. in that case your best option is probably just to replace your regular voicemail greeting temporarily eg. "I most likely did not call you, a scammer using fake caller id made a robo call to you that appeared to be from this number if you'd like to complain to someone about the call you received, please write your senator if you'd still like to leave a message for Wasser please do so after the beep"


As for them dialing an hanging up, the robo caller is most likely trying to ID numbers that are in service or listen for someone to say hello and transfer to a helpful scammer in india. Their systems don't always work very well. Even legit robo calls like appt reminders sometimes require saying hello loudly several times before the message plays. Sometimes I just answer the phone "hell, hell, you're going to hell" or launch into my own fake scam pitch once I've decided it's a scammer.
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komondor
04-23-2022 at 05:48 PM.
04-23-2022 at 05:48 PM.
you can set ooma up to only allow calls from your contacts

https://support.ooma.com/home/known-spammer-call-blocking/
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04-23-2022 at 08:20 PM.
04-23-2022 at 08:20 PM.
Quote from jkee :
Robocallers like car warranty scammers just pick random numbers to use for the outgoing caller id to make their scam calls. In theory it's getting a little harder with shaken/stir but not much.

I'd suggest keeping your number, enough things try to use phone numbers as authentication tokens I'm not sure you should ever really willingly give up a phone number these days. you can always 'park' a DID for about $1/mo

As for what you can do about it, it will most likely blow over in a few days, possibly a bit longer. Call in to your voicemail (even if you use visual voicemail normally), and poke around the greeting menu until you find the option to set up an "extended absence greeting" that says something like

anyone who calls you will get this message before your normal greeting followed by a message prompting "if you'd still like to leave a message please press 1".

If you're having trouble setting up an extended absence greeting google 'your cell phone carrier extended absence greeting'

EDIT: sorry re-read your post, it's ooma not a cell number. in that case your best option is probably just to replace your regular voicemail greeting temporarily eg. "I most likely did not call you, a scammer using fake caller id made a robo call to you that appeared to be from this number if you'd like to complain to someone about the call you received, please write your senator if you'd still like to leave a message for Wasser please do so after the beep"


As for them dialing an hanging up, the robo caller is most likely trying to ID numbers that are in service or listen for someone to say hello and transfer to a helpful scammer in india. Their systems don't always work very well. Even legit robo calls like appt reminders sometimes require saying hello loudly several times before the message plays. Sometimes I just answer the phone "hell, hell, you're going to hell" or launch into my own fake scam pitch once I've decided it's a scammer.
Thank you very much for your response!
Good idea about adjusting the VM greeting, better than telling the sob story 35 times a day. This has been going on since early April, I was hoping they'd be nice and change the Caller ID at some point but maybe not. Good point about them testing if someone is at a particular number and forwarding/selling that to some other scammer. Man, I must piss off a lot of folks without wanting to. I have been asking them what "I" said but it's just missed calls and good folks calling back to see what's burning.

I need to read up on shaken/stir but I think that applies more to preventing robo calls, not so much preventing your ID being spoofed.
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04-23-2022 at 08:21 PM.
04-23-2022 at 08:21 PM.
Quote from komondor :
you can set ooma up to only allow calls from your contacts

https://support.ooma.com/home/known-spammer-call-blocking/
Thank you! That would work, but I am on the free free totally free non-premium non-tax plan so I don't have those options IIRC.
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komondor
04-24-2022 at 09:43 AM.
04-24-2022 at 09:43 AM.
Just sign up for a month or two they usually change spoof numbers as people block them or they get on spam lists.
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04-26-2022 at 11:10 AM.
04-26-2022 at 11:10 AM.
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Just sign up for a month or two they usually change spoof numbers as people block them or they get on spam lists.
That isn't really the problem though. I don't have an issue ignoring calls or explaining them what's going on. Of course some are really pissed and want to know who I am and such. Confused

The problem is, it's my number that is getting blocked, and my number that will end up on a spammer list, or worse, reported and I'll get a visit from the local police or goon squad.

I do hope they change at some point but there are 10000 numbers with that prefix so it could be a while. Waiting for myself to call me. LMAO
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04-26-2022 at 11:13 AM.
04-26-2022 at 11:13 AM.
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I do hope they change at some point but there are 10000 numbers with that prefix so it could be a while. Waiting for myself to call me. LMAO
It's less funny than you think. On some phone systems if it's set up to bypass the pin when you call your voicemail, spoofed caller id is all that's required for someone to play your voicemail messages.
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04-26-2022 at 11:17 AM.
04-26-2022 at 11:17 AM.
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It's less funny than you think. On some phone systems if it's set up to bypass the pin when you call your voicemail, spoofed caller id is all that's required for someone to play your voicemail messages.
They'd be in for a treat! 50 or so angry hang-ups to listen to. Applause
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04-28-2022 at 07:52 AM.
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Very common for scammers to use the same area code and exchange (first 6 numbers) for scams because it makes you think that they are real numbers. Heck I can still remember the most common exchanges (second set of 3 numbers) growing up (before cell phones) and still recognize some of the local exchanges. If I get a call from the same area code but an unknown exchange I'd probably question it, but if the exchange is from a nearby town I'd have much more faith it's a real person.

Heck, my mother had someone using her number (probably pure bad luck) to scam other people and those other people would call her (thinking she was the scammer) and chew her out for calling them. That lasted about a week before the scammer changed their CID number.
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05-03-2022 at 01:33 PM.
05-03-2022 at 01:33 PM.
It's been over a month now, no end in sight. Confused
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05-03-2022 at 02:29 PM.
05-03-2022 at 02:29 PM.
Maybe temporarily set your voicemail to SIT Tone The number you have reached is not is service please check the number and try your call again fleet> voicemail beep.

Recordings are on the internet.

Or maybe try this gem as a voicemail greeting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuFTCirwmoM
I did that once when I was getting harassed by a debt collector with the wrong number and turned by phone off for a week. I added a fun disclaimer, "This phone number does not belong to Brittany. You have the wrong number and are hereby notified to cease and desist from all further contact. Continued violations of the fair debt collection practices act will be reported to the federal trade commission"
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05-03-2022 at 02:32 PM.
05-03-2022 at 02:32 PM.
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It's been over a month now, no end in sight. Confused
If the scammers leave a message for anyone they'd need to provide a call back number. If you're lucky someone you know or someone who called you back talked to the scammers using your number or they actually left a message. If you can acquire the call back number they provide (eg not your number) there may be some things you can do.
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05-03-2022 at 03:16 PM.
05-03-2022 at 03:16 PM.
True. But they seem to just call and hang up.
If they would leave a call-back number then most likely I would not get the call back...

One caller asked me if I was selling car insurance, so maybe that is what is being sold.

Oh well, in the overall scheme of things, not a big deal.
This morning I got a copyright infringe warning from my ISP, but I don't know anyone on my network who torrents, so there is that. Too. Fun never ends.
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