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RYOBI 4000-Watt Gasoline Powered Digital Inverter Generator (Factory Blemished)

+ $10 S/H

$300

$500

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Direct Tools Factory Outlet has RYOBI 4000-Watt Gasoline Powered Digital Inverter Generator (Factory Blemished, RYI4022VNM) on sale for $299.99. Shipping is $9.99.

Thanks to Community Member siaopao for posting this deal.

Features:
  • 3,400 running watt, 4,000 starting watt
  • Powered by 212 cc OHV engine
  • 3 position easy starting process
  • 12-hours run time at 50% load
  • Flat-free wheels for easy transport
  • Suggested Uses: Mobile Devices, Small Electronics, Small Appliances, RV A/C Unit, Tailgating, and Boating.
  • 3-Year Limited Warranty

Editor's Notes

Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • About this Deal:
    • This is currently available on Home Depot in New Condition for $649.
    • Factory Blemished is 'like new' with slight cosmetic flaws and include a manufacturer's warranty.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Written by siaopao
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Direct Tools Factory Outlet has RYOBI 4000-Watt Gasoline Powered Digital Inverter Generator (Factory Blemished, RYI4022VNM) on sale for $299.99. Shipping is $9.99.

Thanks to Community Member siaopao for posting this deal.

Features:
  • 3,400 running watt, 4,000 starting watt
  • Powered by 212 cc OHV engine
  • 3 position easy starting process
  • 12-hours run time at 50% load
  • Flat-free wheels for easy transport
  • Suggested Uses: Mobile Devices, Small Electronics, Small Appliances, RV A/C Unit, Tailgating, and Boating.
  • 3-Year Limited Warranty

Editor's Notes

Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • About this Deal:
    • This is currently available on Home Depot in New Condition for $649.
    • Factory Blemished is 'like new' with slight cosmetic flaws and include a manufacturer's warranty.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Written by siaopao

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EdFromOhio
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Inverters aren't less quiet. They just have a cleaner electrical output.
firefox15
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I power my panel with a 120v inverter. You just really have to know what you are doing. The main things to remember are 1) zero 240v breakers are going to work and 2) make absolutely certain you don't have shared neutrals. If so, the neutrals could overheat, and they aren't protected by the breaker like the hots are.

That said, a generator capable of supplying 240v will always be preferred.
TowHead
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A little education is on order:

A standard, non-inverter generator generates 60Hz 110Vac by operating the generator coil at 3600 RPM. Any variance to the RPM directly translates to a change in the phase, or voltage, depending on the severity of the speed-up or slow-down. It's not possible to just use higher gearing to allow a small engine to run slower - a watt has a cost. The result is that the engine is running at a constant, higher rate of speed whether or not the power is consumed.

An inverter generator, on the other hand, involves electronics packages to deliver electricity at the rate of consumption; the full capacity of the generator will require the engine to run at its top speed; likewise, if no power is being consumed the engine will idle.

This Ryobi 4000 watt generator is considered "large" by inverter standards - and in this case is rather cheap - I am impressed. The Honda EU3000 is $2800. A Robin-Subaru 4000W (Fuji Heavy Industries) is $3100. Yamaha's 4000W is $3300.

https://www.coloradostandby.com/subaru-generators-rg4300is-4300-watt-inverter-silent-gasoline-subaru-generator

https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-EF4500iSE-Starting-Portable-Inverter/dp/B002RWKET6
[coloradostandby.com]

So why is this Ryobi so much less expensive? One answer will be longevity and reliability, the other answer is the elaborate inverter technology itself - the power produced is cleaner, the "starting" power (capacitor dump) is delivered smoother, and so on. When taking a real close look at the output and how the draw is translated to engine throttle adjustments, the electronics packages are what makes the change more seamless.

For example, you're at the RV campsite and start making toast in one of those little oven things while the generator's running. The generator has to "recognize" that there is increased demand, and meet it by accelerating its engine. In between - a capacitor dump is involved - stored energy is metered out simultaneously as the new demand energy is produced. The Ryobi probably judders, doesn't switch as "cleanly" as the Yamaha, for example, but in the case of a toaster, who gives a shit? An air conditioning unit coming online won't really need a clean transition - but it wouldn't be a bad idea to not jolt it around every time it starts - also with the generator's cheaper circuitry internals.

If I had a $100K RV, I wouldn't be using a Ryobi to pass electricity into the battery charger banks and my sensitive electronics - my OLED TVs - etc.

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energyx
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Good price
Last edited by energyx May 8, 2022 at 07:09 PM.
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wangerbanger
May 9, 2022
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Good price for sure. I know a few people with the smaller ryobi inverters and like them.

I have the predator 3500 (3000 running) and this has more power on paper. In for 1 as a backup. Can't go wrong at this price
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ionizer
May 9, 2022
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This able to run a fridge?

Also I'm assuming this is gas powered so how does this logistically work? You leave this outside running noisely in a power outage and then what, drag cords into your house for things you want to have power?

Sorry, ignorant as to how people use these besides camping or outdoor only uses.

How often would one even have to fill the gas?
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superslickz
May 9, 2022
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Can you hook this up to a transfer switch connected to the breaker box?
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turfbag
May 9, 2022
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This is a new concept for me in generators. I've always associated the term "inverter" with a fully-enclosed unit. This one is open, like a traditional (non-inverter) generator. Not necessarily a bad thing, but suppose this could affect the level of noise it produces (compared to other inverter-type generators).
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EdFromOhio
May 9, 2022
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Quote from superslickz :
Can you hook this up to a transfer switch connected to the breaker box?
Only one 120v phase, so not really. You'd need one that does 240v to power a panel.
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firefox15
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Quote from superslickz :
Can you hook this up to a transfer switch connected to the breaker box?
I power my panel with a 120v inverter. You just really have to know what you are doing. The main things to remember are 1) zero 240v breakers are going to work and 2) make absolutely certain you don't have shared neutrals. If so, the neutrals could overheat, and they aren't protected by the breaker like the hots are.

That said, a generator capable of supplying 240v will always be preferred.
May 9, 2022
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D_Bagggg
May 9, 2022
279 Posts
I was thinking about getting this for emergency use, and I've heard inverters are quiet(er), but this review I watched made it sound extremely loud.
https://youtu.be/DLACNoegQQU

Is that normal for inverter generators? Or is there something specific I should look for if I want something quieter?
May 9, 2022
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EdFromOhio
May 9, 2022
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Inverters aren't less quiet. They just have a cleaner electrical output.
May 9, 2022
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hotsparks
May 9, 2022
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Quote from siaopao :
I am looking to get a back up generator and saw this deal.

I have not bought it yet. HD has is new @ 649. ebay and other have it 400ish + 80ish shipping.

https://www.directtoolsoutlet.com...RYI4022VNM
Factory blemished is new in the box. No blemish.
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firefox15
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Quote from ionizer :
This able to run a fridge?

Also I'm assuming this is gas powered so how does this logistically work? You leave this outside running noisely in a power outage and then what, drag cords into your house for things you want to have power?

Sorry, ignorant as to how people use these besides camping or outdoor only uses.

How often would one even have to fill the gas?
Inverters are really common for RVs because they are quiet in campgrounds and provide clean power. Most RVs are going to have a port to plug in this generator so that everything is powered by it.

For residential use, it gets more complex. Either you are running giant extension cords through your doors/windows/whatever, or you have a power inlet on the side of your house where you can simply plug it in just like an RV. Then you use a transfer switch or interlock to power circuits in your house.

But yes, it will easily power a fridge. I think most fridges come in at less than 1000W.
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billyloon
May 9, 2022
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Quote from turfbag :
This is a new concept for me in generators. I've always associated the term "inverter" with a fully-enclosed unit. This one is open, like a traditional (non-inverter) generator. Not necessarily a bad thing, but suppose this could affect the level of noise it produces (compared to other inverter-type generators).
That's not at all what "inverter" means. It has to do with the cleaniness of the power that it delivers. An inverter generator has a consistent sine wave power.
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hiwass
May 9, 2022
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Quote from D_Bagggg :
I was thinking about getting this for emergency use, and I've heard inverters are quiet(er), but this review I watched made it sound extremely loud.
https://youtu.be/DLACNoegQQU

Is that normal for inverter generators? Or is there something specific I should look for if I want something quieter?
Look for closed frame inverter generator, this is an open frame one.

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billyloon
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Quote from EdFromOhio :
Only one 120v phase, so not really. You'd need one that does 240v to power a panel.
You can most definitely hook a 120v up to a panel but it will only power half the bus. Ask me how I know.

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