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MSI Prestige 14 EVO: 14" FHD IPS, i5-1135G7, 16GB LPDDR4X, 512GB PCIe SSD, Thunderbolt 4, Win10H @ $599 + F/S

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  • Windows 10 Home 64 Bit
  • 14" 1080p IPS Display, 100% sRGB
  • i5-1135G7 2.5 GHz (4.5 GHz Turbo, 8Mb Cache)
  • 16GB LPDDR4X 4266 MHz Ram
  • 512GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
  • White Backlit Keyboard
  • 2W x2 Speakers
  • 720p Webcam
  • Fingerprint Reader
  • Killer AX1675 Wi-Fi 6E 2x2 + Bluetooth 5.2
  • Ports:
    • 2x USB-C 4.0 with Thunderbolt 4 (DisplayPort 1.4, USB PD)
    • 1x USB 2.0
    • 1x Micro SD Card Reader (UHS-III)
    • 1x 3.5mm Audio Combo Jack
  • 3 Cell 52 WHr Battery
  • 2.84 lbs
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05-16-2022 at 01:36 AM.
05-16-2022 at 01:36 AM.
This is quite a good deal at $600. If only it were a Ryzen 5, it would be nearly perfect for the money. The EVO i5 is extremely slow, but it would work fine for lighter tasks.
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05-16-2022 at 05:11 AM.
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This is quite a good deal at $600. If only it were a Ryzen 5, it would be nearly perfect for the money. The EVO i5 is extremely slow, but it would work fine for lighter tasks.
The CPU is perfectly fine if you don't just run CPU benchmarks for a living. The reviews say the 250 nit screen sucks but that's when it was $1100, not $600.
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05-16-2022 at 05:30 AM.
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The CPU is perfectly fine if you don't just run CPU benchmarks for a living. The reviews say the 250 nit screen sucks but that's when it was $1100, not $600.
Dude, you have a 1135G7 does not mean you have to defend it in every thread. That Processor is sufficient for only basic day to day tasks like office work, Documentation, browsing and very casual creative and professional works like very basic Photo and video editing. You can run a complex project on it and it will run it for sure, just will take a lot of time which is not okay for people who do that for living. It's not about just CPU Benchmark scores.

You are simply judging it based on your use cases and for that, it may be fine. Any other use cases, whether Video editing or encoding, Coding with big projects, some rendering and 3D works, even high number of number processing in Excel will be very slow on this. Try comparing this with a 5800U for this kind of works. You will save huge time actually.
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05-16-2022 at 06:30 AM.
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Dude, you have a 1135G7 does not mean you have to defend it in every thread. That Processor is sufficient for only basic day to day tasks like office work, Documentation, browsing and very casual creative and professional works like very basic Photo and video editing. You can run a complex project on it and it will run it for sure, just will take a lot of time which is not okay for people who do that for living. It's not about just CPU Benchmark scores.

You are simply judging it based on your use cases and for that, it may be fine. Any other use cases, whether Video editing or encoding, Coding with big projects, some rendering and 3D works, even high number of number processing in Excel will be very slow on this. Try comparing this with a 5800U for this kind of works. You will save huge time actually.
I have to defend it, cause I have one, and I'm guessing you don't?

Here's some benchmarks from my NUC11 w/ external GPU.

Timespy 8632 (GPU 9755) (CPU 5225)

Firestrike 16037 (Phys 13231, Combined 7719)

That's probably enough CPU for most people shopping a $600 laptop.

Who codes for a living on a $600 laptop?
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05-16-2022 at 08:25 AM.
05-16-2022 at 08:25 AM.
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I have to defend it, cause I have one, and I'm guessing you don't?

Here's some benchmarks from my NUC11 w/ external GPU.

Timespy 8632 (GPU 9755) (CPU 5225)

Firestrike 16037 (Phys 13231, Combined 7719)

That's probably enough CPU for most people shopping a $600 laptop.

Who codes for a living on a $600 laptop?
You failed to mention the GPU you're using. Then only we can compare, isn't it?. And the example you have given, is an extremely rare scenario where people using a 2.84 lbs Ultrabook with a Puny Quad Core CPU for eGPU gaming.
The problem is every comment here, you're taking personally. May be for use cases, i5-1135G7 is perfectly fine and you are okay with that. But saying that "The CPU is perfectly fine if you don't just run CPU benchmarks for a living." without knowing what other people do for living is a wrong statement. I have given you couple of examples and you don't need to be professional 3D artist or Content Creator for needing a Powerful CPU. There are plenty daily use cases.
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05-16-2022 at 10:58 AM.
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You failed to mention the GPU you're using. Then only we can compare, isn't it?. And the example you have given, is an extremely rare scenario where people using a 2.84 lbs Ultrabook with a Puny Quad Core CPU for eGPU gaming.
The problem is every comment here, you're taking personally. May be for use cases, i5-1135G7 is perfectly fine and you are okay with that. But saying that "The CPU is perfectly fine if you don't just run CPU benchmarks for a living." without knowing what other people do for living is a wrong statement. I have given you couple of examples and you don't need to be professional 3D artist or Content Creator for needing a Powerful CPU. There are plenty daily use cases.
I mentioned it before, a 3060 Ti. That's the score of a 2070 with high end CPU. Is that a shit CPU only useful for surfing the web?

You're the one pointing out this CPU sucks for 4K video editing, like someone is going to use a cheap 1080p laptop for 4K video editing. I'm no expert but that seems less than ideal.
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05-16-2022 at 11:06 AM.
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I've had this laptop for about 9 months. It does what I need it to do quite well for the most part. My biggest complaint is that the on board speakers suck. I use it on the couch or in bed mostly, so external aren't really an option. The sound fine, but volume is quite low. Battery life sucks, but it charges fast, so that's not a huge issue for me.
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05-16-2022 at 05:53 PM.
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You failed to mention the GPU you're using. Then only we can compare, isn't it?. And the example you have given, is an extremely rare scenario where people using a 2.84 lbs Ultrabook with a Puny Quad Core CPU for eGPU gaming.
The problem is every comment here, you're taking personally. May be for use cases, i5-1135G7 is perfectly fine and you are okay with that. But saying that "The CPU is perfectly fine if you don't just run CPU benchmarks for a living." without knowing what other people do for living is a wrong statement. I have given you couple of examples and you don't need to be professional 3D artist or Content Creator for needing a Powerful CPU. There are plenty daily use cases.
I literally am looking for an affordable notebook with Thunderbolt to connect to an eGPU for when I play Civ VI at home. So you basically described my exact use case. And when I am not playing Civ or City Skylines, I'll probably just use it to write, watch videos/TV and cruise the web. To be honest, I am probably the exception and not the rule. Most people probably would buy a gaming notebook, but my experience with sub-$1000 gaming notebooks has been poor. Then again, this too may result in a poor user experience.
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05-16-2022 at 09:45 PM.
05-16-2022 at 09:45 PM.
I bought an older version of this MSI computer about three years ago (recommended by a SD member). I love it but I also knew the 8GB Ram would be limiting. The processor is i5-8250U CPU @ 1.60GHz 1.80 GHz

My only heavy work is photo editing, although I'm starting to get into video (travel website). Even then I don't do a ton of editing work and mostly use the computer for writing.

I gather from the comments that this new version with 16GB and a slightly faster processor would be sufficient for my workload. But I'd love to hear opinions. Also.. does anyone know when this deal ends?

Or comparisons with this similar deal. I gather from the specs this isn't a much better version if at all, and certainly not worth the extra $200? https://slickdeals.net/f/15786592-msi-prestige-14-evo-2022-14-fhd-ips-i5-1240p-16gb-ddr4-512gb-pcie-ssd-thunderbolt-4-win11-pro-799-f-s?src=catpagev2
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I literally am looking for an affordable notebook with Thunderbolt to connect to an eGPU for when I play Civ VI at home. So you basically described my exact use case. And when I am not playing Civ or City Skylines, I'll probably just use it to write, watch videos/TV and cruise the web. To be honest, I am probably the exception and not the rule. Most people probably would buy a gaming notebook, but my experience with sub-$1000 gaming notebooks has been poor. Then again, this too may result in a poor user experience.
Look for the 2022 update with Core i5-1240p, available at 799 USD. I posted it here as well. If you're using eGPU then the bottleneck is going to be the 4 core cpu here, and even GPU like RTX 3060 will suffer from that. 1240p will be a far better choice for that purpose.
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05-16-2022 at 11:12 PM.
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I bought an older version of this MSI computer about three years ago (recommended by a SD member). I love it but I also knew the 8GB Ram would be limiting. The processor is i5-8250U CPU @ 1.60GHz 1.80 GHz

My only heavy work is photo editing, although I'm starting to get into video (travel website). Even then I don't do a ton of editing work and mostly use the computer for writing.

I gather from the comments that this new version with 16GB and a slightly faster processor would be sufficient for my workload. But I'd love to hear opinions. Also.. does anyone know when this deal ends?

Or comparisons with this similar deal. I gather from the specs this isn't a much better version if at all, and certainly not worth the extra $200? https://slickdeals.net/f/15786592-msi-prestige-14-evo-2022-14-fhd-ips-i5-1240p-16gb-ddr4-512gb-pcie-ssd-thunderbolt-4-win11-pro-799-f-s?src=catpagev2
That deal is posted by me and if you ask me, I'll pay that extra $200 for the performance improvement. In your case, since you're doing photo editing and planning to some video editing, that 1240p CPU will be a huge upgrade over this. That has 4 Performance core and 8 efficient cores, totalling 12 core 16 thread design. That 4 P cores alone can beat 1135G7 both in single and multi threaded workloads. Also, even if the integrated iris Xe GPU with 80 core is same on both, 1240p has it running at higher clockspeed, resulting 12 to 18% more performances and that will definitely help you in editing works
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05-18-2022 at 08:20 AM.
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Quote from Suryasis :
That deal is posted by me and if you ask me, I'll pay that extra $200 for the performance improvement. In your case, since you're doing photo editing and planning to some video editing, that 1240p CPU will be a huge upgrade over this. That has 4 Performance core and 8 efficient cores, totalling 12 core 16 thread design. That 4 P cores alone can beat 1135G7 both in single and multi threaded workloads. Also, even if the integrated iris Xe GPU with 80 core is same on both, 1240p has it running at higher clockspeed, resulting 12 to 18% more performances and that will definitely help you in editing works
Good to know and thank you for your response. It's hard for me to look at those numbers and make much sense of them which is why I appreciate this community! Is there any indication when the Newegg deal is going to end? Are they safe to buy from?

I'm currently out of the country but could have it shipped to a family house. But I'd prefer to be able to use the 30 day return policy if needed and thus order closer to when I return.
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05-18-2022 at 08:31 AM.
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I mentioned it before, a 3060 Ti. That's the score of a 2070 with high end CPU. Is that a shit CPU only useful for surfing the web?

You're the one pointing out this CPU sucks for 4K video editing, like someone is going to use a cheap 1080p laptop for 4K video editing. I'm no expert but that seems less than ideal.
The concept of cheap laptops are not good for any demanding works is a misconception in the 1st place, especially after the after the availability of Ryzen 4000 series Laptop APUs. You can do a lot of stuff using a $500-$600 laptop now a days which is simply not possible with Intel's U series offerings till 11th Gen.
And 4K editing mainly depends on a video card, not entirely on the CPU. You have simply omitted other use cases. Here are couple of examples for you. Video Encoding using CPU (Not to be confused with Editing), Coding and Compilation work professionally, working with large datasheets in Excel or local Data stores, running scientific Data simulations. And believe it or not, a lot of people use at least some subset of these workloads in their laptops.

Just to give you an example, I can pick up a HP Pavilion 15 laptop with a Ryzen 7 5825U 8C/16T CPU, 16GB Ram and 512GB SSD with a 1080p 250-nits Touchscreen from Costco. Now that's not having TB, so no external GPU based gaming. But for Video Encoding, working on Excel data, Code compilation or running simulations, you really don't need a very color accurate display in the 1st place. Here a $599 laptop can do all those tasks easily and far better than any Intel 11th Gen Ultrabooks, limited to 4 Cores and you really don't need to spend $1000 on that.
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