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Yamaha RX-V4A 5.2-Ch x 80 Watts 8K A/V Receiver (Factory Refurbished)

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Accessories 4 Less has Yamaha RX-V4A 5.2-Ch x 80 Watts 8K A/V Receiver (Factory Refurbished) on sale for $249.99. Shipping is free.

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Note, this product is a Yamaha Factory Refurbished unit and will include 1-Year Yamaha + 2-Year Free Extension warranty with purchase (CPS protection automatically added to cart).

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  • 5.2-channel 80 Watt surround sound with Dolby Digital Plus and DTS-HD
  • 8K/60Hz/B and 4K/120Hz/AB HDMI with HDCP 2.3 and eARC (4-in/1-out)
  • Supports enhanced media and gaming - ALLM, VRR, QFT, QMS (with future firmware update)
  • Wi-Fi®, AirPlay 2®, Spotify Connect and Voice Control
  • MusicCast multi-room audio app control
  • Pandora®, Spotify, Amazon Music, SiriusXM, TIDAL, Deezer, Napster and more
  • YPAO automatic room calibration
  • MusicCast Surround-capable: add optional MusicCast speakers to provide wireless surrounds for a 5.1-channel setup

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Written by Corwin | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • Every product has been thoroughly tested, repaired (if necessary), cleaned and otherwise renewed to original condition.
    • For additional details about the condition see the product page.
    • Refer to the forum thread for discussion of this receiver. -Corwin

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Accessories 4 Less has Yamaha RX-V4A 5.2-Ch x 80 Watts 8K A/V Receiver (Factory Refurbished) on sale for $249.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member fosaisu for finding this deal

Note, this product is a Yamaha Factory Refurbished unit and will include 1-Year Yamaha + 2-Year Free Extension warranty with purchase (CPS protection automatically added to cart).

Features
  • 5.2-channel 80 Watt surround sound with Dolby Digital Plus and DTS-HD
  • 8K/60Hz/B and 4K/120Hz/AB HDMI with HDCP 2.3 and eARC (4-in/1-out)
  • Supports enhanced media and gaming - ALLM, VRR, QFT, QMS (with future firmware update)
  • Wi-Fi®, AirPlay 2®, Spotify Connect and Voice Control
  • MusicCast multi-room audio app control
  • Pandora®, Spotify, Amazon Music, SiriusXM, TIDAL, Deezer, Napster and more
  • YPAO automatic room calibration
  • MusicCast Surround-capable: add optional MusicCast speakers to provide wireless surrounds for a 5.1-channel setup

Editor's Notes

Written by Corwin | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • Every product has been thoroughly tested, repaired (if necessary), cleaned and otherwise renewed to original condition.
    • For additional details about the condition see the product page.
    • Refer to the forum thread for discussion of this receiver. -Corwin

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I've been buying receivers from A4L for probably 15 years now. I always buy refurbs, the one problematic Onkyo I bought years ago had an HDMI issue and Onkyo honored the warranty and replaced the board for free. Highly recommend this seller. I'm currently using a Denon 950H I got a few years back on a pricing error for $299. Not enough reason to upgrade… yet. Maybe next year
Here's the Crutchfield breakdown on RX-V385 v. RX-V4A
https://www.crutchfield.com/S-07k...X-V4A.html

At a glance, the RX-V4A is 80 watts/channel (vs. 70 on the RX-V385), and supports Airplay 2, Alexa, and Google Assistant. Plus the HDMI 2.1/8k support you mentioned. RX-V385 has Bluetooth only, no wifi.

The RX-V385 is available from Accessories4Less for $199 now (also a refurb, but doesn't include free extended warranty):
https://www.accessories4less.com/...ver/1.html
I found this one for free earbuds: FREE50EPH

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Apr 19, 2023
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been waiting for this, $250 is better than $600 also better than $900 for the 7.2
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I have the 700 version of this receiver and it's awesome! Bought it in Costco when they just got it in 2020, had issues first but the fixed them via software update. Please see this link that explains the original issues and certain considerations. You can check if your board needs to be replaced. https://usa.yamaha.com/news_event...ution.html

For some reason the link doesn't work anymore but I'm including the I go below for reference. Hope this helps.

HDMI 2.1 board exchange of select 2020 AV Receivers with Certain Gaming, Video Devices
(November 2021)
Affected models: RX-V4A, RX-V6A, RX-A2A and TSR-700
For certain pass-through compatibility with: Xbox Series X, NVIDIA RTX30

From the time we launched several AV receivers in 2020, we stated that we would support emerging HDMI 2.1 capabilities – including pass-through of 4K/120Hz or 8K/60B – in these models via future updates. A hardware update is required on the above AV receivers only for customers who plan to connect Xbox Series X or NVIDIA RTX30 at 4K/120Hz or 8K/60B to these select AV receivers.

Please Note:
You will not need this HDMI board update unless you are planning to connect an Xbox Series X or an NVIDIA RTX30 video graphic card device at 4K/120Hz or 8K/60B signal transmission.
The HDMI board update keeps the specifications of your model's AV receiver the same - 4K/120AB, 8K/60B HDMI 2.1 (with firmware update) with up to 24Gbps on specified inputs will continue to be supported.
Above models manufactured later in 2021, are unaffected by the pass-through issue, requiring only a future firmware update to enable certain HDMI 2.1 capabilities.

Participating in this complimentary board exchange program requires you to send in your current AV receiver to a repair facility with turnaround times estimated at 8-10 business days (includes shipping times). Shipping materials are also available if needed.

If you desire the hardware update and want to check if your model is affected, please sign in or sign up using the form on this page.
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Quote from TheSchlaf :
Going from 120W to 80 is a huge difference with speakers with low sensitivity. Get another Marantz or Denon with 120W.
Absolutely not true. The difference would be only about 2db at max power. https://www.enjoythemusic.com/mag...amplifier.
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I'm still using my RXA1000 flawlessly. Wish it had 4K and more zones, but still not upgrading. Running a 4K tv and a 1080p projector, as well as dual zone and all available speaker outputs (7.2 ch). On this one newer one, not a bad price for all these features though...
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How does this compare to the Denon S760H at Costco for 400$ currently?
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Quote from killerrabbit1961 :
Absolutely not true. The difference would be only about 2db at max power. https://www.enjoythemusic.com/mag...amplifier.
But going from a 7.1 THX rated Marantz at 125x2 would be a huge downgrade. Those Polks read a nominal 4 ohm resistance when the straps are attached on the speaker terminals. They like power. The Marantz at 33lbs has much better heat management. Before he would experience any fidelity improvements due to newer codecs, distortion would ruin the experience. FTC measurements do not have a time length parameter. Run this Yamaha at reference levels for an hour with a demanding load and see what happens.
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Quote from Buckeyefan 1 :
But going from a 7.1 THX rated Marantz at 125x2 would be a huge downgrade. Those Polks read a nominal 4 ohm resistance when the straps are attached on the speaker terminals. They like power. The Marantz at 33lbs has much better heat management. Before he would experience any fidelity improvements due to newer codecs, distortion would ruin the experience. FTC measurements do not have a time length parameter. Run this Yamaha at reference levels for an hour with a demanding load and see what happens.
If you are playing loud enough for distortion, you are playing loud enough for hearing damage unless you are in a huge room. Ohm's Law is Ohm's Law, and neither Marantz or any other company can get around it, so in any real world situation, the difference between 80 watts and 120 watts is insignificant.

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Quote from zelch :
Silly question...

What problems would I run into trying to use this with nothing hooked up to the HDMI out?

I am quite specifically considering trying to use the HDMI inputs for digital audio from computers.

But at least so far, my GoogleFu is not working out very well for finding much on this kind of setup.
I used mine for garage sound only, no TV. I did have to connect it to a TV once just to go through the menus for one time setup (Zone B config, power on always for LAN control, etc).
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Quote from killerrabbit1961 :
If you are playing loud enough for distortion, you are playing loud enough for hearing damage unless you are in a huge room. Ohm's Law is Ohm's Law, and neither Marantz or any other company can get around it, so in any real world situation, the difference between 80 watts and 120 watts is insignificant.
Sure it is. You can't deliver power without management. If your device overheats and shuts down, it's useless. All speakers aren't created equal. The RTi series are a terrible match for this Yamaha. I would not recommend this unit to drive 4 ohm nominal speakers with an 89dB rating.
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Quote from Buckeyefan 1 :
Sure it is. You can't deliver power without management. If your device overheats and shuts down, it's useless. All speakers aren't created equal. The RTi series are a terrible match for this Yamaha. I would not recommend this unit to drive 4 ohm nominal speakers with an 89dB rating.
How many times have you or anybody you know actually had a receiver/amp shut down due to overheating? And how do you know when the Yamaha would do that? And while a 4 ohm impedance would make a slightly more difficult to drive speaker, 89db is a completely average sensitivity, not a low one. https://www.lifewire.com/speaker-...t%20after.
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Quote from killerrabbit1961 :
How many times have you or anybody you know actually had a receiver/amp shut down due to overheating? And how do you know when the Yamaha would do that? And while a 4 ohm impedance would make a slightly more difficult to drive speaker, 89db is a completely average sensitivity, not a low one. https://www.lifewire.com/speaker-...t%20after.
Let's see. I've had two, a roommate had one, and numerous car stereo amps. I've owned the Polk RTi10, CSi5, FXi3, RTi4, and an SVS PB12 Plus/2. A Denon 3805 used to get so hot, I had to increase the ventilation as well as add a low voltage fan to the unit. It did eventually die. The receiver was upgraded to a THX rated Denon 4802 that had the exact same power rating as the 3805. Both class AB amps. The 4802 never got warm. The 3805 was 33lbs, the 4802 was almost 50lbs and had a massive toroid transformer with capacitors the size of D cell batteries. From the same manufacturer, the same power output, the difference was obvious. Those Polks woke up with the 4802.
I also own several receivers from the 80s through the early 2000s. They all differ from each other in sound and efficiency. I own two Yamaha receivers. Both 600 series. Neither could drive the Polk set-up like the Denons did. I sold off the Polk and SVS for more efficient, smaller wall mounted Mirage and kept the Yamahas as they had ARC. The other system has all NHT bookshelf speakers, which are harder to drive, but do fine with the other 600 series Yamaha. The rooms are probably 14x16 and 13x24 with 9' ceilings and open to other rooms. Yamaha makes good equipment, but you benefit by finding speakers that play well with them. The Rti series don't play well with entry to mid level AVRs.
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Quote from Buckeyefan 1 :
Let's see. I've had two, a roommate had one, and numerous car stereo amps. I've owned the Polk RTi10, CSi5, FXi3, RTi4, and an SVS PB12 Plus/2. A Denon 3805 used to get so hot, I had to increase the ventilation as well as add a low voltage fan to the unit. It did eventually die. The receiver was upgraded to a THX rated Denon 4802 that had the exact same power rating as the 3805. Both class AB amps. The 4802 never got warm. The 3805 was 33lbs, the 4802 was almost 50lbs and had a massive toroid transformer with capacitors the size of D cell batteries. From the same manufacturer, the same power output, the difference was obvious. Those Polks woke up with the 4802.
I also own several receivers from the 80s through the early 2000s. They all differ from each other in sound and efficiency. I own two Yamaha receivers. Both 600 series. Neither could drive the Polk set-up like the Denons did. I sold off the Polk and SVS for more efficient, smaller wall mounted Mirage and kept the Yamahas as they had ARC. The other system has all NHT bookshelf speakers, which are harder to drive, but do fine with the other 600 series Yamaha. The rooms are probably 14x16 and 13x24 with 9' ceilings and open to other rooms. Yamaha makes good equipment, but you benefit by finding speakers that play well with them. The Rti series don't play well with entry to mid level AVRs.
I have Polks in a 20x36 room with a 17' tall ceiling at it's peak, with a standard 4/12 pitch. My receiver is an Onkyo rated at 75 watts/channel and the Polks have more than enough volume without the Onkyo ever getting remotely hot. And you have had multiple car amps overheat? The only question I have now is, what brand of hearing aids to you use?
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Quote from killerrabbit1961 :
I have Polks in a 20x36 room with a 17' tall ceiling at it's peak, with a standard 4/12 pitch. My receiver is an Onkyo rated at 75 watts/channel and the Polks have more than enough volume without the Onkyo ever getting remotely hot. And you have had multiple car amps overheat? The only question I have now is, what brand of hearing aids to you use?
What Polks? Dual binding straps?
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Quote from Buckeyefan 1 :
What Polks? Dual binding straps?
Monitor 70 Series 2. Yes, they have binding straps. https://www.polkaudio.com/en-us/p...-70-series

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Monitor 70 Series 2. Yes, they have binding straps. https://www.polkaudio.com/en-us/p...-70-series
I can't say without having them side by side, but I bet the Monitor are easier to drive. When I checked my impedance with a meter, it read 4 ohms on the RTi10 towers. The RTi4 bookshelfs read 8 ohms nominal. The 4's IMO sounded the best out of that whole lot, and were very easy to drive. Had I not got the entire speaker system on clearance at Circuit City before they went out of business, I would have went with all RTi4s, CSi3, FXi3 surrounds at the time. Your towers are such a great deal for what you get. Nice looking too.
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