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I built my own NAS about 12 years ago. I switched to a QNAP about 4 years ago. I run multiple micro form factor PCs with Proxmox VMs for a variety of purposes. All this is to say that I don't shy away from building my own.

The reason I like a QNAP/Synology solution is that they do a better job of abstracting the underlying technology into a smaller set of configurations. NAS is a specific type of application that doesn't require powerful CPUs or a ton of RAM to run well at very high-performance levels. So with something like a Synology, you get the benefit of streamlined configuration, predictable/stable performance, and a rich set of management/access/security/backup/sync/notification features that would take very complicated configuration to replicate. TrueNAS makes this easier, but it's not as easy as Synology/QNAP. For those that want to ticker with their NAS, they can try building a TrueNAS system. For me, my NAS holds important files that I just want to be available so I'm not tinkering with it. I do my tinkering with the Proxmox VMs.

Lastly, want to mention that my self-built NAS pulled about 80 watts on idle and that was quite an achievement with under-volting an AMD processor. The QNAP I have now run about 20-40 watts depending on load. For the 8 years I ran my self-built NAS, that's 2800kWh of additional electricity used, or about $420 at 15 cents a kWh. Your mileage may vary, but a Synology/QNAP will have lower energy costs over the years.
its only $80 more for DS1522+. you get one additional bay for hard disk and 8gb of ram. i think that's a better deal

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Jul 12, 2023
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sqlallstar
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Quote from ender2851 :
in the past i have seen people say these do not work well as a Plex servers. is that statement still true?
They work fine. Been using a 1520+ for years now. No downtime unless I choose it.
Jul 12, 2023
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turen009
Jul 12, 2023
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Quote from spiderhead :
Same scenario here!
I have a 14TB Element that I want to shuck to use in the DS220+. Do you recommend the same model drive for bay 2, or should I go for a different drive (Seagate, some other brand)?
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Quote from ender2851 :
in the past i have seen people say these do not work well as a Plex servers. is that statement still true?
Synology works better as a backup system than a file server. We have them deployed all over, and other than one lemon modem (DS1515+ from several years back) they've been very solid and reliable. Their write speed for file serving isn't all that great though. Probably has to do with the NAS disks we're using though- I'd imaging SSDs would move a lot more data if that's what you're going for.
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Quote from j3oomerang :
How many HDDs can you fit in there though?
you'd need to swap that case. but MB supports 6 or 8 I believe.
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gboy13
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Quote from zopi :
They don't lock you into RAM or HD (in their consumer units), but they do lock you into the $110 10G network adapter.

I wonder if a 3rd party might make one someday or if the market is too niche or licensing would be an issue?

As my switch is not 10G, nor do I have 10G in my main PC, for now it doesn't matter. I sure wish they had at least one port as 2.5G though.
Good luck buying 3rd party nvme.
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zopi
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Quote from gboy13 :
Good luck buying 3rd party nvme.
I know you have to use Synology NVME (I believe they come in 400gb and 800gb) for a storage pool, but, egad, can one not use a couple $25 500gb NVME for cache either??
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Quote from zuzuboy981 :
Why do you have the 1060 in a NAS? The igpu on the 7600k is perfectly capable of a few 4K hevc transcodes with tone mapping. Removing the 1060 will reduce at least 7W on standby.

I have a 4 bay NAS running unRAID with 1x NVME for cache. I'm running it on an HP Elitedesk 800 G3 TWR with i5 7600T that cost me $70. Idles at 13W. I actually retired my DS218+ after migrating everything over.
Wow, an i5-7600T and 4 drives + nvme idling at 13 watts .. if accurate, this wins the discussion on electricity efficiency .. The 4-bay Synology won't beat that.

Ease of administration & time spent - the Synology still wins, though at a monetary cost.

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Jul 12, 2023
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Looks like 1522+ no longer available
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Quote from rknobbe :
Looks like 1522+ no longer available
Ugh. That's the one I wanted.
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SharpStraw447
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Any idea if the deal on the 1522+ will come back? Or once a deal is sold out it's fully sold out?
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Quote from zopi :
Wow, an i5-7600T and 4 drives + nvme idling at 13 watts .. if accurate, this wins the discussion on electricity efficiency .. The 4-bay Synology won't beat that.

Ease of administration & time spent - the Synology still wins, though at a monetary cost.
13w idle definitely possible with a 7600t, i run a similar idle on a 8600t server build, albeit with a single 2.5" hdd in a micro lenovo m720. I am surprised his full-size tower can idle that low though, usually the micro systems have way better idle because they use laptop power bricks instead of traditional power supplies.
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Quote from mmarvin1 :
13w idle definitely possible with a 7600t, i run a similar idle on a 8600t server build, albeit with a single 2.5" hdd in a micro lenovo m720. I am surprised his full-size tower can idle that low though, usually the micro systems have way better idle because they use laptop power bricks instead of traditional power supplies.
Yea, that's impressive for a tower. I have a ProDesk 600 G3 MFF with a i5-7500T and it's pulling about 10 watts idle with 16GB ram and a single SATA 2.5" SSD.

I have a Dell 7060 MFF that I'm about to spin up with a i7-8700t with 32GB RAM and 500GB NVMe - curious what the power draw will be.
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Looking for a recommendation for just photo and video storage and sharing. Namely from iPhones. Is the 923+ needed for that or a lower model work well enough? I don't want to run pled or any fancy media server for 4K movies and such. Just photos and videos from iPhones and a DSLR.
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Quote from shortstick :
I agree with most of what you said, and I'm tempted by the DS1522+ here. But I've actually been trying to wean myself off of Synology for the reasons I noted here on a prior deal: https://slickdeals.net/f/16220662-synology-diskstation-nas-enclosure-ds1621-6-bay-720-ds220j-2-bay-1...
On your point about software, Synology has a few key applications that work well and are well maintained, but many of their other apps are not. For example, Download Station is pretty poor, and even Plex, one of the most popular use cases, is not really packaged well by them (the version that they provide through their add on store is way behind the version directly from Plex). It seems like most people who use their NAS for a little more than file storage have migrated to using Docker containers, and Synology probably realized this and just updated the Docker manager in DSM 7.2 to have a new name and sleeker interface. But if you're just using Docker containers, you can do that on any OS. On that note, while I haven't used them myself, it seems like TrueNAS and OpenRAID have much more robust offerings than they did just a few years ago.
On the power note, I definitely agree that it has been hard to match them due to the lack of embedded/mobile boards available to the consumer. However, recently there have been a few of these boards available from CWWK / Topton among others. Check out the J6413 or N5105/N6005 ITX boards. The J6413 is 2 years newer than the R1600, supports AV1 decoding, has 4 cores vs 2 cores, and is on a smaller process with a lower TDP. These boards also come with 2.5Gbe ports. You could pair one of these with one of the newer NAS ITX cases like the Jonsbo N2. Also, ASRock recently announced they will have a DeskNAS product which may be similar to one of those setups.
All that said, I haven't gone that route yet as I'd prefer to use ECC RAM in a NAS/home server and Intel's embedded offerings don't support ECC. There are rumors of possible Ryzen mobile based boards coming, and those would probably be a sweet spot power wise for many including myself.
HPE Microserver Gen8 supports ECC and can be had used for less than $200. Support 4 x 3.5" disk and a boot SSD. I have several of these as NAS. Admittedly, they dont use standard ATX component.

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Quote from zuzuboy981 :
Why do you have the 1060 in a NAS? The igpu on the 7600k is perfectly capable of a few 4K hevc transcodes with tone mapping. Removing the 1060 will reduce at least 7W on standby.

I have a 4 bay NAS running unRAID with 1x NVME for cache. I'm running it on an HP Elitedesk 800 G3 TWR with i5 7600T that cost me $70. Idles at 13W. I actually retired my DS218+ after migrating everything over.
Did you have to swap out the CPU yourself?

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