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Co-op Cycles Generation e1.1 Electric Bike (Various Colors) $798.99 at REI

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REI has Co-op Cycles Generation e1.1 Electric Bike (Various Colors) for $798.99. Select store pickup where available.

Low stand-over height design makes the bike easy to get on and off and easy to stabilize while standing at a stop
Upright riding position gives you great visibility; adjustable stem lets you fine-tune the cockpit to fit you
One-size adjustable frame makes sharing with friends and family as easy as changing the seat height
Bafang 350W hub-drive motor offers a smooth ride with 5 pedal-assist modes, plus a walk mode
Bafang 36V/11.6AH battery readily powers the bike and running lights
Battery comes equipped with a lock so you can feel confident parking around town; battery can be removed to charge at work or at home
Included front and rear lights run on the battery so you don't need to think about keeping them charged
20 x 2.4 in. tires with extra-resilient Double Defense construction invite confident exploration, easily rolling over all kinds of urban terrain
Heavy-gauge spokes make for extra-durable wheels; tires include reflective sidewalls and flat protection for added safety and peace of mind
Hydraulic disc brakes deliver reliable stopping power
SR Suntour suspension fork smooths out bumps to help keep you firmly in control
Integrated rear rack steps up your cargo capability, easily fitting a wide variety of bike bags or even a kid carrier (not included)
2A battery charger included
Kickstand is easy to use and super stable
Tested 30-40-mile average range depends on many factors; to get the most out of your range, use lower modes more frequently and save higher modes for hills
Bicycle weight limit is 300 lbs. total, including rider + all gear carried on the bike and on the rider's body

https://www.rei.com/product/18996...ctric-bike
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REI has Co-op Cycles Generation e1.1 Electric Bike (Various Colors) for $798.99. Select store pickup where available.

Low stand-over height design makes the bike easy to get on and off and easy to stabilize while standing at a stop
Upright riding position gives you great visibility; adjustable stem lets you fine-tune the cockpit to fit you
One-size adjustable frame makes sharing with friends and family as easy as changing the seat height
Bafang 350W hub-drive motor offers a smooth ride with 5 pedal-assist modes, plus a walk mode
Bafang 36V/11.6AH battery readily powers the bike and running lights
Battery comes equipped with a lock so you can feel confident parking around town; battery can be removed to charge at work or at home
Included front and rear lights run on the battery so you don't need to think about keeping them charged
20 x 2.4 in. tires with extra-resilient Double Defense construction invite confident exploration, easily rolling over all kinds of urban terrain
Heavy-gauge spokes make for extra-durable wheels; tires include reflective sidewalls and flat protection for added safety and peace of mind
Hydraulic disc brakes deliver reliable stopping power
SR Suntour suspension fork smooths out bumps to help keep you firmly in control
Integrated rear rack steps up your cargo capability, easily fitting a wide variety of bike bags or even a kid carrier (not included)
2A battery charger included
Kickstand is easy to use and super stable
Tested 30-40-mile average range depends on many factors; to get the most out of your range, use lower modes more frequently and save higher modes for hills
Bicycle weight limit is 300 lbs. total, including rider + all gear carried on the bike and on the rider's body

https://www.rei.com/product/18996...ctric-bike

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New to ebikes but looking for a good commuter. I see that the e1.2 is $998.

Any recommendations? I am reading Rad Power appears to be a quality brand as well.
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Quote from anthem_the_cat :
New to ebikes but looking for a good commuter. I see that the e1.2 is $998.

Any recommendations? I am reading Rad Power appears to be a quality brand as well.
Same here and just did some youtube searching. Seems like a decent bike as a commuter.

Trying to find the Brand of the batteries but no luck so Im guessing its generic batteries.
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80 Nm of torque is impressive if true. Also kind of impressive that this has a suspension fork. Also a plus that members get 2 years free adjustments, and free flat fixes (labor). Interesting little bike.
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350w. šŸ˜’šŸ˜’šŸ˜žšŸ˜ž
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Quote from TheTomSawyer :
350w. šŸ˜’šŸ˜’šŸ˜žšŸ˜ž
Which is plenty unless you're the type that just wants to sit on it and push the throttle instead of pedaling. Oh, and it's a class 1, so it's only pedal assist anyways, no throttle.
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Quote from jeff34270 :
Which is plenty unless you're the type that just wants to sit on it and push the throttle instead of pedaling. Oh, and it's a class 1, so it's only pedal assist anyways, no throttle.
Agree, next they'll say its not mid drive šŸ˜‚
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Quote from anthem_the_cat :
New to ebikes but looking for a good commuter. I see that the e1.2 is $998.

Any recommendations? I am reading Rad Power appears to be a quality brand as well.
Not sure if it would qualify as a commuter bike but I bought a Letric XP 3.0 for this same price and have been really happy with it. It's a blast to ride. I got it up to 32.3 mph a couple days back going down a decent hill šŸ˜€
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Just bought one at my local REI and so far it's great. Level 5 pedal assist is pretty insane especially since this is my first e-bike.

Also in watching reviews before buying the bike a common complaint was the gearing was to short and you couldn't get it to top speed. REI changed all the gearing now to make it longer and much more balanced.

REI was selling them fast today though so they might sell out.
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Our community has rated this post as helpful. If you agree, why not thank cvp33

A few things to consider:

1) Amp hours is how long you can ride. So 36v x 11.6aH = is only 418. That's extremely small for a commuter.

2) You should put any delusions that you'll be peddling this bike to rest before you buy. Fat tire bikes, especially with 20" tires, are extremely hard to peddle. You have a tough seating position, 4" tires of rolling resistance and a 65# bike. Unless you're an athlete, you'll be using a lot of battery which you unfortunately don't have a lot of. PLUS, if you're using this to commute, I wouldn't want to sit near you at work after you've peddled this beast to work.

3) Most commuters want a foldable bike as well for storage. This one doesn't fold so that's a miss if storage is limited.

4) A 350w motor will have trouble on any grades above 5% if the rider weighs above 100lbs. You should looks for 500w and above if you want a decent commuter and you are an average adult male. This would make a good kids, woman's or teenagers bike if the weigh 100lbs or less.

5) The bike does have hydraulic brakes which is good.

6) You'll need a decent set of mirrors if you truly intend to commute using this bike and frankly you should still have them for any riding.

So what should you look for?

1) 500w motor minimum. It'll have plenty of power and won't be overworking you or the motor.
2) 48v and 10/11a range batteries if you want any chance of seeing over 30 miles of range.
3) Hydraulic brakes to help with stopping a 65# bike. Manual brakes will work, hydraulics are just better.
4) Decent head lights and brake lights, NOT just reflectors. You want people to see you, not just when their headlights happen to hit your reflectors.
5) At a minimum have an adjustable front fork shock. Again these are heavy bikes and you're going to want sone suspension between you and the road on these heavy bikes.
6) Fat tires are nice if you want a little more cushion or are traveling through sand. Not ideal for a commuter that will only see city streets. Consider a proper 26" tire and conventional step through for the best of both worlds - more battery range from less rolling resistance and better top speeds.

WALLKE F2 - Best cheapie $700 - If you want a non-foldable bike with 24mph speed, 500w bafang motor (900w peak), 21 speed shimano switch gear so you can peddle, disc brakes, front adjustable fork…..give this one a look.
https://a.co/d/6CaomTI

Mukkpet Suburban - good upgrades $869 - Larger motor and battery. Mirrors, 750W Electric Bike for Adults 26'' * 4.0 All Terrain Tire Electric Mountain Bikes 48V 15AH BMS Removable Lithium Battery Electric Bicycle 7-Speed Electric Bike
https://a.co/d/9lDvR2g

G-FORCE - Best cheap folding $798 - 750W Brushless Motor, 48V 20A Large Battery, 20/22/28Mph Max Speed Electric Bike with Derailleur, Ebike for Adults
https://a.co/d/42duFZL

eAhora - Folding + dual suspension $899 Azarias 750W Electric Bike for Adults 48V 18AH Folding Electric Bike with 3A Fast Charger, Full Suspension, Dual disc Brakes, Cruise Control, 7-Speed Long Range Electric Bike
https://a.co/d/it2w5TE
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Quote from cvp33 :
A few things to consider:

1) Amp hours is how long you can ride. So 36v x 11.6aH = is only 418. That's extremely small for a commuter.

2) You should put any delusions that you'll be peddling this bike to rest before you buy. Fat tire bikes, especially with 20" tires, are extremely hard to peddle. You have a tough seating position, 4" tires of rolling resistance and a 65# bike. Unless you're an athlete, you'll be using a lot of battery which you unfortunately don't have a lot of. PLUS, if you're using this to commute, I wouldn't want to sit near you at work after you've peddled this beast to work.

3) Most commuters want a foldable bike as well for storage. This one doesn't fold so that's a miss if storage is limited.

4) A 350w motor will have trouble on any grades above 5% if the rider weighs above 100lbs. You should looks for 500w and above if you want a decent commuter and you are an average adult male. This would make a good kids, woman's or teenagers bike if the weigh 100lbs or less.

5) The bike does have hydraulic brakes which is good.

6) You'll need a decent set of mirrors if you truly intend to commute using this bike and frankly you should still have them for any riding.
1) Ideal battery size depends on how far a person needs to go and how much they pedal. The extra cost and extra weight of a larger battery may be unnecessary.

2) This bike comes with 2.4" tires and is readily pedalable. It weighs 54lbs, not 65.

3) Foldable adds a weak failure point and extra weight and isn't a necessity for many.

4) 350 watts is plenty of pedal assist for normal people going normal cycling speeds.

6) Mirrors are a pretty cheap accessory that can be added to any bike.
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Quote from jeff34270 :
1) Ideal battery size depends on how far a person needs to go and how much they pedal. The extra cost and extra weight of a larger battery may be unnecessary.

2) This bike comes with 2.4" tires and is readily pedalable. It weighs 54lbs, not 65.

3) Foldable adds a weak failure point and extra weight and isn't a necessity for many.

4) 350 watts is plenty of pedal assist for normal people going normal cycling speeds.

6) Mirrors are a pretty cheap accessory that can be added to any bike.
1) 36w/11.6a is really cheaping out. In fact almost all the mid-ties bikes are at least 48v/11a. Why not get a better bike with a better battery for the same price? Better to have the range and not need it than vice versus.

2) 2.4" wide is still wider than most commuters. Why not get a proper commuter or a better battery/motor combo? 54#'s is still heavier than an average peddle bike. Likely only newbies looking at this bike so they need to be aware you don't just peddle around an 54# bike, especially not this style. Again for the same or less money, why settle?

3) Foldables are not weak. Your info is dated. You must be thinking 10 or 15 years ago. Foldables today do not have issues.

4) 350w motors are really getting hard to find. Most, like this seller, are closing them out in favor of more powerful and better motors. This one won't be able to handle hills of any kind. Again, why settle for 350w when you can get 500 to 750 for the same price?

5) I think you missed one. LOL

6) Agreed, mirrors are cheap so why not include them? Why settle?
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Quote from cvp33 :
1) 36w/11.6a is really cheaping out. In fact almost all the mid-ties bikes are at least 48v/11a. Why not get a better bike with a better battery for the same price? Better to have the range and not need it than vice versus.

2) 2.4" wide is still wider than most commuters. Why not get a proper commuter or a better battery/motor combo? 54#'s is still heavier than an average peddle bike. Likely only newbies looking at this bike so they need to be aware you don't just peddle around an 54# bike, especially not this style. Again for the same or less money, why settle?

3) Foldables are not weak. Your info is dated. You must be thinking 10 or 15 years ago. Foldables today do not have issues.

4) 350w motors are really getting hard to find. Most, like this seller, are closing them out in favor of more powerful and better motors. This one won't be able to handle hills of any kind. Again, why settle for 350w when you can get 500 to 750 for the same price?

5) I think you missed one. LOL

6) Agreed, mirrors are cheap so why not include them? Why settle?
1) Plenty of people will be buying a bike like this for recreation, riding to the park, or going to the store, not just commuting. Their individual battery/range needs can vary from a few miles to several dozen.

2) No, the bike won't pedal as easily as a regular bike, but the pedal assist makes up for that.

3) Cheap foldables are weak and there're plenty of examples of them breaking. Why add this complexity to a bike if you don't need it?

4) A typical person pedaling a bike puts out maybe 100 watts of power and hundreds of millions of people have commuted for decades on human power alone. This bike has that, plus an extra 350 watts of boost. In Europe, 250 watts is the norm for electric bikes and plenty of bikes are available with 350 watts or less. 500 or 750 or more watts is only necessary if you don't want to pedal much at all or if you want to go faster than normal bicycling speeds.

5) Good grief. I had nothing to say about that, so why include it?

6) Not everyone wants mirrors, so why include them on every bike when they are easily added?

While you might be able to get a bigger battery and higher watts elsewhere for $800, it is not going to be the same quality of bicycle and won't come professionaly assembled with 2 years of free service and warranty support through one of the largest recreational equipment retailers in the world.
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Quote from cvp33 :
1) No makers are using 350w motors any more unless they're stealth bikes and/or mid-drives, like the Velotric T1ST. The 350's are just too small, too slow and pretty useless for even casual riders. Again why settle for a 350 when 500/750w are literally the same price and perform better? That's just stupid.

2) Europe is ahead of the US on regulation. There are way more bikes used there for commuting. Their 20mph is a hard limit and there are fines for manufacturers that violate the laws. So far the US is the Wild West so we can buy bikes that's do 35+ mph for $1,100.

3) Foldable bikes from reputable companies like I listed don't fail. You have more to fear from a battery fire than a foldable bike breaking. But would love to hear/see your evidence.

4) Mirrors are necessary not a luxury. Don't ride an e-bike without them or you are stupid. Same as a helmet. Don't be stupid.

I've provided many better e-bikes listed here and other posts. I hope people don't buy this POS as it's not even a good starter bike at this price. It's literally ripping people off and not a slick deal at all. If you buy it, I guess you deserve it for not doing your homework. Luckily people are messaging me asking for advice so I can help. I've done my research and happy to help others vs. talk them into a terrible deal like this 350.
You "settle" for 350 watts because you want a bicycle to pedal with electric boost, rather than something to just sit on and push the throttle to make it go. You "settle" for 350 watts because it is plenty fast and relatively safe for the riding that you want to do. You "settle" for 350 watts because it is treated as a bicycle and allowed on practically all bike paths and bike lanes that could have restrictions on faster/more powerful ebikes.

If those reasons don't fit the type of riding that YOU want to do with an ebike, then there are plenty of other options out there. But just because it may not be a good fit for you, doesn't mean that it wouldn't be the perfect fit for others.

I suggest that people go to REI and test ride one of these to see if it fits their needs before ruling it out because it is only 350 watts. You just might be pleasantly surprised at what this bike can do.
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Quote from jeff34270 :
you "settle" for 350 watts because you want a bicycle to pedal with electric boost, rather than something to just sit on and push the throttle to make it goou "settle" for 350 watts because it is plenty fast and relatively safe for the riding that you want to doou "settle" for 350 watts because it is treated as a bicycle and allowed on practically all bike paths and bike lanes that could have restrictions on faster/more powerful ebikesf those reasons don't fit the type of riding that you want to do with an ebike, then there are plenty of other options out thereut just because it may not be a good fit for you, doesn't mean that it wouldn't be the perfect fit for others suggest that people go to rei and test ride one of these to see if it fits their needs before ruling it out because it is only 350 wattsou just might be pleasantly surprised at what this bike can do.

See my update. This is a 2 year old discontinued bike that even REI has improved on. Not a good value, just an old bike with poorly thought out specs that even REI is discontinuing. What good is a cargo bike that can't carry cargo. 17mph will not pleasantly surprise anyone especially when they're peddling their tail off. Weak bike, weak specs, poorly thought out and over-priced.

UPDATE - I just realized that this is REI's Co-OP's old version bike from 2 years ago so they are definitely closing out this 350 as they well should. This was their first try at making a cargo-bike. Not a terrible bike 2 years ago, but now is way behind the leaders in this space. Shame the price still doesn't make this a deal.

Before you waste your money you should know:

1) This bike has NO THROTTLE so you MUST PEDDLE. Not ideal when starting and especially if you have hills in your commute. Most especially if you do intend to use this as a cargo bike and are loaded. Why else did you buy a cargo bike?

2) Also know this bike has 42T front chain ring. You will not see 20mph. This bike has a TOP SPEED OF 17mph. Super slow by just about every modern e-bike standard, but decent 2 years ago. So slow, very slow.

3) This bike was also below average on the hill climb test by over 10 seconds. Again, you're going to be peddling if you want to get up hills, especially loaded (remember cargo bike?)

4) This is a cargo bike and not a good commuter. Even at that they missed the mark on carrying as there's no additional seating and no front basket that you'd expect on a cargo bike.

SUMMARY - This is REI's first try at a cargo-bike and is being discontinued as it should be. Not sure why you'd spend $800 to ride REI's fail when there are far better bikes out there now.
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