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Epson Home Cinema 5050UB 4K PRO-UHD Projector (Refurbished)

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Epson has Epson Home Cinema 5050UB 4K PRO-UHD Projector (Refurbished, V11H930020-N) on sale for $2,119.99. Shipping is free.

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  • Please Note: Epson does not accept returns on refurbished items except if product arrives defective. Refer to the product page for additional details.
Key Features:
  • Advanced 3-Chip Design and HDR10
  • 4K PRO-UHD1 Projection Technology
  • Digital Imaging Processor
  • Pixel-Shift Processor
Specs:
  • Projection System: Epson 3LCD, 3-chip optical engine
  • Projection Method: Front / Rear / Ceiling mount
  • Driving Method: Poly-silicon TFT Active Matrix, 0.74"-wide panel
  • Color Brightness - Color Light Output: 2600 lumens2
  • White Brightness - White Light Output: 2600 lumens2
  • Aspect Ratio: 16:9 widescreen (4:3 resize,16:10 resize) Compatible with 4:3 with Normal, Full or Zoom Modes
  • Resolution: 4K Enhancement1 (1920 x 1080 x 2)
  • Maximum Resolution: 4096 x 2160
  • Supported Resolution: 3840 x 2160, Full HD 1080p/i, HD 720p, 576p/i, 480p/i
  • Lamp Type: 250 W UHE
  • Lamp Life: Up to 5,000 hours (ECO Mode); up to 4,000 hours (Medium Mode); up to 3,500 hours (High Mode)7
  • Size - projected distance: 50" – 300" (Zoom: Wide and Zoom: Tele)
  • Keystone Correction: Vertical: ±30 degrees (Manual)
  • Contrast Ratio: Up to 1,000,000:1, Auto Iris on
  • White Balance: 8-point adjustment
  • Color Processing: Full 10-bit (partial 12-bit)
  • Color Reproduction: Full-color (up to 1.07 billion colors)

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Written by crushyslushy
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Epson has Epson Home Cinema 5050UB 4K PRO-UHD Projector (Refurbished, V11H930020-N) on sale for $2,119.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks community member wenovias for sharing this deal
  • Please Note: Epson does not accept returns on refurbished items except if product arrives defective. Refer to the product page for additional details.
Key Features:
  • Advanced 3-Chip Design and HDR10
  • 4K PRO-UHD1 Projection Technology
  • Digital Imaging Processor
  • Pixel-Shift Processor
Specs:
  • Projection System: Epson 3LCD, 3-chip optical engine
  • Projection Method: Front / Rear / Ceiling mount
  • Driving Method: Poly-silicon TFT Active Matrix, 0.74"-wide panel
  • Color Brightness - Color Light Output: 2600 lumens2
  • White Brightness - White Light Output: 2600 lumens2
  • Aspect Ratio: 16:9 widescreen (4:3 resize,16:10 resize) Compatible with 4:3 with Normal, Full or Zoom Modes
  • Resolution: 4K Enhancement1 (1920 x 1080 x 2)
  • Maximum Resolution: 4096 x 2160
  • Supported Resolution: 3840 x 2160, Full HD 1080p/i, HD 720p, 576p/i, 480p/i
  • Lamp Type: 250 W UHE
  • Lamp Life: Up to 5,000 hours (ECO Mode); up to 4,000 hours (Medium Mode); up to 3,500 hours (High Mode)7
  • Size - projected distance: 50" – 300" (Zoom: Wide and Zoom: Tele)
  • Keystone Correction: Vertical: ±30 degrees (Manual)
  • Contrast Ratio: Up to 1,000,000:1, Auto Iris on
  • White Balance: 8-point adjustment
  • Color Processing: Full 10-bit (partial 12-bit)
  • Color Reproduction: Full-color (up to 1.07 billion colors)

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Written by SaltyOne | Staff

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Written by crushyslushy

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I've owned the 5050UB, the 11000, and the 12000. I can only own LCD projectors as I'm very sensitive to "rainbows".

Overall a 5050UB within spitting distance of $2000 (in post covid inflationary pricing times) is a massive bang for the buck and by far the best value. Yes this projector is long in the tooth but it was so far ahead when it came out that it's still a great choice today.

The 11000 is slightly sharper but the black levels are a deal breaker. The 12000 has the improved sharpness and the good blacks but is not worth 2x the cost. The 5050 will still blow you away if you've never owned a premium (but not elite) level projector before.

Just be warned all of them are a beast size-wise.
Just a few things about this projector:

- It has a manual HDR tone map slider - HDR typically is quite dark on projectors and this helps alleviate this. The HDR tone map slider is one thing that differentiates this from epson 5040
- this projector will handle 18 gbps HDMI 2.0 for 4K 60. Epson 5040 was only 10.2 gbps interface so could only do 4k24 HDR and 4k60 with 4:2:0 chroma
- Epson projectors have advanced motorized zoom lenses with a lot of motorized frame adjust and lens memory. This is important if you have a 2.35:1 screen like I do. I press a button and the image enlarges to fit my 2.35:1 screen so I see movies like they were intended. The epson projectors are by FAR the least expensive projectors with an advanced motorized lens system like this. most cheap projectors you need to get on your ladder and adjust manually
- contrast is important for perception of sharpness. The cheap DLPs that can produce true 4k images have worse contrast ratios so many of the reviews state that these higher contrast epsons appear sharper to the eye than something like a BenQ ht3550 or ht3560
- this projector still supports 3D. LS11000 / LS12000 do not. The JVC NP5 does but that is $6k

just a few ramblings for those interested who do not want to read the 20 page reviews . . .
In before the "it's not true 4k" comments.

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Quote from kherbinoskie :
You can get an OEM lamp for less than a $100. Installation is probably 5 mins or less.

We had an old Epson 3500 and used it as regular TV. It took 6-7 years for us to reach 4000 hrs.
still rocking the 3500 as our primary TV. Replaced the bulb after 4 or so years. Was surprised how much brighter the new bulb was was, kept the old as a spare in case it ever burned out. I think for me at least this needs to hit $1500 before upgrading, or the 3500 needs to die.
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yksnomel
Aug 19, 2023
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Quote from db999md :
2 year warranty. Epson gives you the full regular manufacturer warranty on refurbished projectors. You can buy one year extra for about $200

my 5040 has finally started showing lines on the screen so I'm in for one.
Do you have links or reference to that? I can't find it on that page or their warranty document. Other refurbished projects has 2-year warranty. Example: https://epson.com/Clearance-Cente..._onRefresh Thanks!
Last edited by yksnomel August 19, 2023 at 03:19 PM.
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chong67
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I still have the Epson 8700UB for many years now. Will it be a big upgrade?

I remember paying $1500 for it in 2012.
Aug 20, 2023
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TealNest6799
Aug 20, 2023
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Quote from pixelpusher15 :
No, Sony doesn't. They have a long history of panel degradation that leads to significantly reduced contrast, color gamut, and brightness. They have routinely denied this to owners while also saying "it's fixed in the new generation". Here's respected German dealer with their data on the matter.
http://cine4home.de/sony-sxrd-wei...ugeraeten/ [cine4home.de]

The new XW series is still a bit too young to see if it suffers the same issue but there's been no negative reports so far.

Epson refurbs on the other hand aren't shining examples of workmanship. I went through 4 (including 2 new ones) before the 5th one they sent me was a good product (pj order: blue streaking, poor focus uniformity, dust blob (new), poor focus uniformity (new), good unit (received with hand signed letter of QC pass). Each one was express replaced but it took 6 months. I know another person that has a similar experience with a 5040.

Is it worth the risk or time commitment? Buyers choice. It's hands down the best projector under 4k in my opinion (I write projector reviews FWIW) so at $2100 it's a huge bargain. Just know what you may be getting into.
I had a bad hdmi port and SONY fixed it, no questions asked in a timely manner.
I had a dead (no power) Epson and they claimed my unit wasn't eligible for warranty work at all and gave no reason as to why.
Those are are my two experiences.
I don't claim to know panel degradation curves for both manufacturers.
My HW45ES projector seems to be going strong 5 years later.
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chong67
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I am confused about the 4K display.

1. Do I need to have a 4K movie?
2. Or it take a 1080p movie and double the resolution to 4K?
Aug 20, 2023
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tj152
Aug 20, 2023
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Quote from TealNest6799 :
I had a bad hdmi port and SONY fixed it, no questions asked in a timely manner.
I had a dead (no power) Epson and they claimed my unit wasn't eligible for warranty work at all and gave no reason as to why.
Those are are my two experiences.
I don't claim to know panel degradation curves for both manufacturers.
My HW45ES projector seems to be going strong 5 years later.
So, one Epson experience - not two. They wouldn't fix your out of warranty projector for free…….ok
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MaroonApple7101
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Is worth it to upgrade from a refurb 5040? Got one during a similar sale in 2018 for under 1500.

5040 is great

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SmartMoney468
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5050UB is amazing, also not that many care it does have 3D where as the new ones do not. Still a great bang for buck. I've had mine almost 4 years now.
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Quote from chong67 :
I still have the Epson 8700UB for many years now. Will it be a big upgrade?

I remember paying $1500 for it in 2012.
I was pretty happy with my 8700 but I found a deal on a 4040 on Facebook market place a few months ago so I took a chance. SO glad I did. The 4040 isn't nearly as good as the 5050, so you'll be blown away with the upgrade.
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rtannerm3
Aug 20, 2023
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I purchased a 6050 (the pro model of this one) a few weeks back refurbished and while I really loved the contrast and motorized lens shift over my old benq 1070, the dynamic iris made such an audible clicking noise like a hard drive type noise when going from bright to dark scenes, I am returning it. After some research others have experienced it also and gotten epson to send them another.

Having said that, my room is very small, projector is setting on a wall mounted diy shelf a few feet over head with no acoustic insulation only making it worse. I didn't try turning that feature off but some do.

I'm taking a gamble on an eBay NX5 on its way. Fingers crossed
Aug 21, 2023
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BIGMARCUS
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I've owned this exact unit for 5 years. It is currently working flawlessly still!!! PQ is absolutely superb in my dedicated Home Theater with a 135in Silver Ticket Screen. Listen carefully... Do NOT get concerned about the 4k upscaling. 4k content looks MAGNIFICENT! Whether it's Netflix, MAX, PRIME or 4k files from my drive.
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Quote from kherbinoskie :
You can get an OEM lamp for less than a $100. Installation is probably 5 mins or less.

We had an old Epson 3500 and used it as regular TV. It took 6-7 years for us to reach 4000 hrs.
The bulb lasted me a year and a half.
Aug 21, 2023
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pixelpusher15
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Quote from webdoctors :
Since you're familiar with PJs, can you comment on HDR? I have an Epson 4010 and I'm extremely happy with the PQ except for HDR material. Is it just a limitation of the technology, or is it something the 5050UB could do?

With more HDR and DV material, wondering if its still worthwhile to still be investing in PJs.
The 5050's HDR capabilities are wayyy better than the 4010 (I've had both). Its not perfect though. Using a Apple TV 4K and locking it to 4K SDR can deliver a really good image if you want to try that. Its one of the only streamers that will largely give you a 4K SDR feed for most apps. A lot of others will only stream a 1080p feed.

The best HDR handling built into a projector is in the JVCs. Although some of the USTs are pretty good too.
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webdoctors
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Quote from pixelpusher15 :
The 5050's HDR capabilities are wayyy better than the 4010 (I've had both). Its not perfect though. Using a Apple TV 4K and locking it to 4K SDR can deliver a really good image if you want to try that. Its one of the only streamers that will largely give you a 4K SDR feed for most apps. A lot of others will only stream a 1080p feed.

The best HDR handling built into a projector is in the JVCs. Although some of the USTs are pretty good too.
Cool, I gotta check that out. I've been using a Shield, I thought it did HDR tone mapping but will review.

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Quote from tj152 :
So, one Epson experience - not two. They wouldn't fix your out of warranty projector for free…….ok
tj152 making a ton of assumptions.

Epson experience:
1) The request was WITHIN warranty period, 2) They had to interest in repairing the unit

SONY: 1) The request was within warranty period. 2) They gave NO resistence in repairing the unit.

So I'm free to make my own judgement about which company stands behind their products and which one doesn't
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Quote from webdoctors :
Cool, I gotta check that out. I've been using a Shield, I thought it did HDR tone mapping but will review.
Actually, the Shield does pretty well too. This chart has changed since the last time I looked at it. The ATV is really good for frame rate matching if you care about that. https://www.avsforum.com/threads/...t.3253657/

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