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Lenovo ThinkStation P3 Tiny Workstation i9-13900T 64GB (30H00016US) $1919

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Part Number: 30H00016US

Processor : 13th Generation Intel® Core™ i9-13900T vPro® Processor (E-cores up to 3.90 GHz P-cores up to 5.10 GHz)
Operating System : Windows 11 Pro 64
Graphic Card : NVIDIA® T1000 8GB GDDR6
Memory : 64 GB DDR5-4800MHz (SODIMM) - (2 x 32 GB)
Storage : 1 TB SSD M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 Performance TLC Opal
AC Adapter / Power Supply : 230W
Pointing Device : USB Optical Mouse
Keyboard : USB, Traditional, Black - English (US)
Networking : Integrated Ethernet
Wireless : Intel® Wi-Fi 6 AX201 2x2 AX & Bluetooth® 5.1 or above
Warranty : 3 Years On-site
Mounting / Stand Option : Vertical Stand Tiny

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Lenovo...2862366171

Lenovo was just selling this on their site at a major discount as well, but it appears they've taken it down. I was able to order on Walmart which states there weren't many left. Lenovo's site does say they price match, however.

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/wo...30h00016us
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fullauto2009
09-23-2023 at 07:51 PM.
09-23-2023 at 07:51 PM.
Can i put a 4090 in this? Asking for a friend
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TeeFourGee
09-23-2023 at 08:07 PM.
09-23-2023 at 08:07 PM.
Quote from fullauto2009 :
Can i put a 4090 in this? Asking for a friend

If you had to have a 4090, you wouldn't pair it with this…you'd pair it with a non "T" CPU in a case that'd fit the 4090.
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ShengC
09-23-2023 at 08:38 PM.
09-23-2023 at 08:38 PM.
Quote from fullauto2009 :
Can i put a 4090 in this? Asking for a friend

Of course you can, maybe using thunderbolt 4 or external enclosure
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dtwizzle
09-23-2023 at 09:08 PM.
09-23-2023 at 09:08 PM.
It doesn't say the CPU specs anywhere on the Walmart site. How do you know you're getting the i9-13900T ?
Not by the part number, 30H00016US, because on the Lenovo site it shows that part number with a starting cpu of i3.
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09-23-2023 at 09:21 PM.
09-23-2023 at 09:21 PM.
Quote from dtwizzle :
It doesn't say the CPU specs anywhere on the Walmart site. How do you know you're getting the i9-13900T ?
Not by the part number, 30H00016US, because on the Lenovo site it shows that part number with a starting cpu of i3.
Here's a screenshot of the basic specs from Lenovo
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dmgdev
09-23-2023 at 11:16 PM.
09-23-2023 at 11:16 PM.
Quote from The_Love_Spud :
I'm encouraged by the size of the associated power supply. My biggest concern in a system like this would be that the design power limits the associated boost capabilities of the CPU. This is a T-series "power optimized" CPU only rated for 35W. However, the maximum boost ability of the CPU is over 100W. With an associated 230W power supply the system could indeed support the limits of the CPU... assuming the associated cooling system is up to the task for the CPU (not a big ask given the relatively low 35W-100W range. I might be more concerned with the ability to of this system to keep up with the 65W TDP CPUs it also supports.

If anyone finds some direct reviews of these systems it would be appreciated. Most everything out there just seems to cover the documentation of this ridiculous little beast.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Len...281.0.html

Good luck!
Jon

As soon as I get it, I'll run some performance tests and take a look at the PL1/2 and tau. It will be interesting to see what Lenovo has defaulted to for such a small chassis. Very curious to see the cooling capabilities as well.
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pgharibi
09-24-2023 at 04:16 AM.
09-24-2023 at 04:16 AM.
As someone else mentioned, these corporate "Think" machines fall in price like a rock including the thinkpad laptops. You pay 1,900 for this + sales tax in 9/23 and by 1/25 you will be hard pressed to find a buyer on craigslist for $600.

The use case where you would need a micro form factor machine with i9 CPU with a 40,000+ score and a quadro GPU like this one today is very very small. A PC with a much weaker processor could do most of what people do on their machines - excel, word processor, cat videos on youtube. It's not like this is a gaming machine either. The T1000 is pretty weak for games. Why overpay for something you will likely never need?
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09-24-2023 at 04:19 AM.
09-24-2023 at 04:19 AM.
Quote from dmgdev :
As soon as I get it, I'll run some performance tests and take a look at the PL1/2 and tau. It will be interesting to see what Lenovo has defaulted to for such a small chassis. Very curious to see the cooling capabilities as well.
It's a 24-core desktop processor, but in a case only slightly larger than a laptop. Plus it has a GPU it has to cool. Yes it's in an all steel chassis, which laptops don't come in, but don't expect miracles..
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09-24-2023 at 05:55 AM.
09-24-2023 at 05:55 AM.
The IdeaCenter Mini v8 i7 is much better bang for buck if it meets your needs.

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/de...90w20000ut
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09-24-2023 at 06:35 AM.
09-24-2023 at 06:35 AM.
Why not just get a gaming laptop?
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09-24-2023 at 06:39 AM.
09-24-2023 at 06:39 AM.
Quote from jmandawg :
Why not just get a gaming laptop?
Heat, noise, reliability and for someone who doesn't care about gaming, it is weaker than this for what they want to do - workstation/server use
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09-24-2023 at 06:43 AM.
09-24-2023 at 06:43 AM.
Quote from stubbornboy :
Heat, noise, reliability and for someone who doesn't care about gaming, it is weaker than this for what they want to do - workstation/server use

I think 7945hx laptop def faster than this.
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09-24-2023 at 06:48 AM.
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I think 7945hx laptop def faster than this.
weaker could mean different. What if u want to run a bunch of VMs 24x7 on it? RAM is the limiting factor and speed doesn't become a consideration once u are past a threshold. Just saying - it doesn't make any sense to get a gaming laptop for use cases like that.
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jdixon
09-24-2023 at 06:58 AM.
09-24-2023 at 06:58 AM.
Wish they had paired a more capable gpu with this this unit. For $2K price, this is a no go. I'm in the market for consumer class mini-rig as desktop that can support occasional ML and LLM training and fine-tuning.
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blarg0001
09-24-2023 at 07:17 AM.
09-24-2023 at 07:17 AM.
Quote from t_c :
Are used rack servers off the table for your use case? I've found them to be the best bang for the buck for my homelab by far. For example, my virtualization server (Proxmox) has 2x Intel Xeon E5-2699 with 18 cores/36 threads each and 512GB ECC RAM & 4x 10Gb adapters and it's got out of band IPMI management, which is nice. It was $680 on eBay. Granted, it's a big and loud 30" deep 1u with very low Wife Acceptance Factor, but it was cheap for 72 threads of virtualization goodness. :-)
The only use case for these very powerful but small servers is if size is an absolute hard requirement. Otherwise an i9-13900T, 64GB, 8GB GPU combo in whatever case is going to cost a lot less than $2k.
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