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18TB Toshiba 7.2K RPM SATA 6Gb/s 4Kn 3.5" Hard Disk Drive

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I worked in a data center for 7 years and was seeing drives of all brands fail daily. We also used various types of drives there, consumers and enterprise/DC level drives. A 10 hour shift, there are days you would replace 20+ drives and days you would replace 0 (not many of those)
How is $10 more for 4TB less a better deal???
That's why I got divorced...

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Oct 29, 2023
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VladC
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Quote from Deadpoole :
Yup. There are numerous disk utility tools that have a 'reset SMART'.

The tool "Victoria" lets you reset all sorts of things, do low level testing and rebuild a bad sector table.

I bought one once. Sounded like a can full of rocks. Smart data had been reset but that drive had either been dropped or ran in a server for more than a year or two.
That is a lie. I have all version of the 'tool Victoria' and none have an option of 'reset SMART'.

I bought one once (not a great Russian freeware Victoria, but a used HDD). More than one, actually. They've all been great! The said 'tool Victoria' showed all the SMART intact, good enough for a used drive, did 'low level testing' but did not 'rebuild a bad sector table' which it can't and it's quite an illiterate way to describe that subtle process (see Victoria FAQ for details).
Dec 4, 2023
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poco
Dec 4, 2023
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Quote from aznxenon :
Yup I replied to my shipping notification email, that one that was from support@ and they replied first thing in the morning. They already shipped the replacement and told me to return the SAS one with the included shipping label

I know it's been a while.

I just opened my HC550 WUH721818ALN604 and put them in a NAS enclosure QNAP TR-004.

Unlike other 2 Exos X20 ST18000NM003D 18TB in ths same enclosure, both my 2 HC550s cannot be recognized. Is this something I can solve? Or how should I approach their support?

Thanks for any input.
Dec 4, 2023
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aznxenon
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Quote from poco :
I know it's been a while.

I just opened my HC550 WUH721818ALN604 and put them in a NAS enclosure QNAP TR-004.

Unlike other 2 Exos X20 ST18000NM003D 18TB in ths same enclosure, both my 2 HC550s cannot be recognized. Is this something I can solve? Or how should I approach their support?

Thanks for any input.
Hey bud, try this [email protected]

Best of luck mate
Feb 22, 2024
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AnonyM8611
Feb 22, 2024
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Quote from nickmv :
Which of these 3 drives would you all recommend for a desktop PC in an office, which serves as a Plex server mainly (and has its own SSD for the OS/apps).

Planning to run it for 10+ years (if it'll behave).
Both brands have had issues in the past. I work with large scale storage arrays, fibre channel etc. but i also run plex on an esx cluster with ~400TB worth of storage Smilie. I am using nfs 4.1 with multipathing because th iscsi implementation in synology is… not good. I have also since moved from plex to emby. Plex seems to be moving further and further away from what I use it for. Prioritizing all the random stuff i dont care about. Getting plex to work without internet access can be done… but its not pretty and they have access to all of your data and viewing habits. Emby you dont even have to login to their server if you dont want to. You can give people a username and password and give them a direct link to your stuff instead of having to do some plex login and some kinda dns redirect. But yeah buy what you want. But buy 2 of the same thing. If you do put them in a nas or use raid sometimes if their behavior is off they can fall out of the raid config without actually having a failure.
Feb 22, 2024
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AnonyM8611
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Quote from VladC :
Yes. I think that idiots are those who easily and bluntly insult and accuse everybody without any proof whatsoever.
Proof of what? If you get drives that may or may not be used then they should be put in a raid array to help protect the data in the event of a failure. Raid 6 perhaps. Being a storage engineer or having to provide support for people who dont do this can make people respond in that way. But as far as proof… none is needed. What he said is correct, his tone and your interpretation of it doesn't alter that. Just because you have bad feels after someone gives you information doesn't mean the information is bad. Or hey maybe you were talking about someone else and i didnt understand the context. Tee hee bloopbloop
Feb 23, 2024
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VladC
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Quote from AnonyM8611 :
Proof of what? If you get drives that may or may not be used then they should be put in a raid array to help protect the data in the event of a failure. Raid 6 perhaps. Being a storage engineer or having to provide support for people who dont do this can make people respond in that way. But as far as proof… none is needed. What he said is correct, his tone and your interpretation of it doesn't alter that. Just because you have bad feels after someone gives you information doesn't mean the information is bad. Or hey maybe you were talking about someone else and i didnt understand the context. Tee hee bloopbloop
Proof of her claim. I doubt you're an engineer. Because we would never 'prove' something by merely stating
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What he said is correct
- without any proof whatsoever then jumping to my blunt tone instead.
Feb 23, 2024
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AnonyM8611
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Quote from VladC :
Proof of her claim. I doubt you're an engineer. Because we would never 'prove' something by merely stating - without any proof whatsoever then jumping to my blunt tone instead.
Lol. So…. Its daylight outside…. And you ask for proof. Something that is obvious, common sense or would be understood by someone with any expertise doesn't need proof. So perhaps that person does need proof. What form would they like it in? Exploring that would be even more tedious and stupid than just letting it go. So… if I was standing outside and you could clearly see that the sun was out and i said it was day time… and you asked for proof… how could i supply that and what form would it be in? My mind doesn't work within that framework of stupidity. Call into (i removed the company name…) ask for their enterprise storage outage and performance team group. Tell them to message in slack or teams that some twit from slickdeals wants to talk to an engineer. It's a small group. I will be pleased to speak with you at length about, 3par, primera, alletra, emc or netapp storage. Have your credit card ready because it's going to cost you 2550.00 a day. So proof. Hard drives fail. I dont think anyone supplied "proof" that happens. Hard drives that are refurbished could fail more often…. No one has provided proof. Putting them in a raid array would help protect data in the event of a single drive or multi drive failure. Proof. Can you prove to that person that hard drives exist? How would you do that? So I agree… no one has supplied your version of proof. There should be more courses on understanding the stupidity of others. Ohhh and any proof someone could provide… a link, pictures, text by your definition wouldn't be proof. I guess some people need to experience failure enough times that they start doing better. I myself enjoy failing… specifically in regard to communicating with idiots. There is a value to be had, but it only benefits the idiots. Understanding why a stupid person does something stupid doesn't really enrich the intelligent person. The time and effort spent on an idiot is much less productive than spending that time and effort on someone else. I guess it comes down to how much you care about that person or being right…. And having the restraint to not try with randos other than for the sake if argument and entertainment value. This has been cathartic for me… because on the calls I have with idiots about their poor data practices/design/implementation etc. i cant speak this way. Ohh and the proof… they experience it and some of them lose their jobs, planes for a large airline are grounded, or a hospital storage system goes down which impacts patient care. So yeah disregard my advice or doubt that I am an engineer. I dont care… because other than this conversation you and your karma will be bare the weight of whatever disinformation or doubt you spread. Dont forget… many stupid people cant realize they are stupid… cheers! .

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AnonyM8611
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Quote from Deadpoole :
Every single Seagate drive that I've ever bought gave me problems.

I didn't buy from them for quite some time after one debacle involving a new drive that couldn't even be formatted, and then paying to send that back so they could replace it with an old worn out drive that sounded like it was a can full of rocks being shaken.

I still have WD drives that are so old that their size isn't relevant anymore.

I've gotten WD drives that lasted for 5-6+ years in a tivo dvr, with constant writing.
WD had some problems in pre TB days and seagate had some after 4TB was the last one I can remember. I think the first PC drive I personally owned was a 1.6GB WD drive in jeez 1993. I still remember that machine. 4x teac cd rom, pent 100, ati mach 64 graphics card with 4 megs of dual ported vram none of that wram crap. Soundblaster awe 16 or 32 gold with dimm slots to store additional sound banks. I think i had 64MB of ram and people were like good god man… no one needs that much. That 640k of conventional and using memmaker or qemm (quarterdeck extended memory manager which was far superior). Mag innovision mxp17f it had a backlit lcd on it that showed resolution and refresh rate and did some ungodly refreshing like 120hz (at lower resolutions) i think it did like 1680x something. It had a true 20 or 22 dot pitch with none of those oblong pixel bs. it was not cheap. Sorry about that… nerd stuff just kept flooding back.

Now adays most drives seem ok. The amount of write cache on the drives and the amount of ram in computers significantly lessens the thrashing older drives could experience. I deal with enterprise storage and there seems to be odd issues with solidstate drives more than spinning ones (design/software flaws). Most of the spinning disks are failing because of age. And the current weird ones are usually some kind of software issue. Friggin synology validated a model of seagate drive… which i shucked… might have been a 4tb drive. i contacted synology and told them that the drives kept falling out of the raid group. I already had the firmware version available, and figured out what the problem was. (The head parking/sleep settings were too aggressive. Friggin synology makes it hard to get into the boot section of their OS so i had to do something or write a script that would do stuff with like smartd to manually set that each time… something like that.). Then synology tells me ohh well we validated version like C51 and not C54 which is not mentioned anywhere. So I am like cool… give me that version of the drive firmware you validated and I will burn that on my drives (with the understanding if I blew them up it was all me. I didnt know what kind of hardware changes could have been made between the versions.). They said no… they didnt have it. So working as a storage engineer for Dell at the time I contacted some seagate folks and was like hey give me that firmware. They did and i force burned that on the drives. They never fell out of the raid array again. None of them ever died. Running constantly in that 8 disk nas array. I would say the number of times you power them on and off and how much they are transported would have a bigger impact on drive longevity than the specific drives (barring something horribly wrong that should be easy to find). Thats my 27 cents worth. Smilie
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VladC
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Quote from AnonyM8611 :
Lol. So…. Its daylight outside…. And you ask for proof. Something that is obvious, common sense or would be understood by someone with any expertise doesn't need proof. So perhaps that person does need proof. What form would they like it in? Exploring that would be even more tedious and stupid than just letting it go. So… if I was standing outside and you could clearly see that the sun was out and i said it was day time… and you asked for proof… how could i supply that and what form would it be in? My mind doesn't work within that framework of stupidity. Call into (i removed the company name…) ask for their enterprise storage outage and performance team group. Tell them to message in slack or teams that some twit from slickdeals wants to talk to an engineer. It's a small group. I will be pleased to speak with you at length about, 3par, primera, alletra, emc or netapp storage. Have your credit card ready because it's going to cost you 2550.00 a day. So proof. Hard drives fail. I dont think anyone supplied "proof" that happens. Hard drives that are refurbished could fail more often…. No one has provided proof. Putting them in a raid array would help protect data in the event of a single drive or multi drive failure. Proof. Can you prove to that person that hard drives exist? How would you do that? So I agree… no one has supplied your version of proof. There should be more courses on understanding the stupidity of others. Ohhh and any proof someone could provide… a link, pictures, text by your definition wouldn't be proof. I guess some people need to experience failure enough times that they start doing better. I myself enjoy failing… specifically in regard to communicating with idiots. There is a value to be had, but it only benefits the idiots. Understanding why a stupid person does something stupid doesn't really enrich the intelligent person. The time and effort spent on an idiot is much less productive than spending that time and effort on someone else. I guess it comes down to how much you care about that person or being right…. And having the restraint to not try with randos other than for the sake if argument and entertainment value. This has been cathartic for me… because on the calls I have with idiots about their poor data practices/design/implementation etc. i cant speak this way. Ohh and the proof… they experience it and some of them lose their jobs, planes for a large airline are grounded, or a hospital storage system goes down which impacts patient care. So yeah disregard my advice or doubt that I am an engineer. I dont care… because other than this conversation you and your karma will be bare the weight of whatever disinformation or doubt you spread. Dont forget… many stupid people cant realize they are stupid… cheers! .
Too many letters. And no need to read any of them - smart people are pithy and won't deliver bs. Some randomly stuck out insults 'with cheers' only prop this conclusion of mine.
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Quote from VladC :
Too many letters. And no need to read any of them - smart people are pithy and won't deliver bs. Some randomly stuck out insults 'with cheers' only prop this conclusion of mine.
Proof, to a smart person, is called an explanation. Long explanations given by smart people ….. is a bad thing to you. Lol that explains a lot.
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Quote from AnonyM8611 :
Proof, to a smart person, is called an explanation. Long explanations given by smart people ….. is a bad thing to you. Lol that explains a lot.
Proof is a proof, not a blah-blah-blah.
Engineers would know that.

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