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Hat-Trick
11-29-2023 at 07:50 AM.
11-29-2023 at 07:50 AM.
That's some fast speed. Waiting for the "99% of people won't notice" comments...
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11-29-2023 at 08:56 AM.
11-29-2023 at 08:56 AM.
Quote from Hat-Trick :
That's some fast speed. Waiting for the "99% of people won't notice" comments...

99.9% of people won't notice.

Games and Windows seems to be just as fast with Gen 3 and Gen 4… Sata SSDs seems pretty quick as well. 🤷 ♂️

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And games aren't optimized for this speed. You'll only notice the speed in benchmarks and video editing..

I'm not saying it's a bad drive.

My 2 cents.

LTT Testing what I just said:

https://youtu.be/4DKLA7w9eeA?si=ULPiMgs6d9QG0oAq

LTT GEN 4 vs Gen 5

https://youtu.be/jnMMtbVP0ps?si=kuGo-SM2gKXkYQOr
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11-29-2023 at 09:11 AM.
11-29-2023 at 09:11 AM.
Quote from ghostfreckle :
99.9% of people won't notice.

Games and Windows seems to be just as fast with Gen 3 and Gen 4… Sata SSDs seems pretty quick as well. 🤷 ♂️

Windows
And games aren't optimized for this speed. You'll only notice the speed in benchmarks and video editing..

I'm not saying it's a bad drive.

My 2 cents.

LTT Testing what I just said:

https://youtu.be/4DKLA7w9eeA?si=ULPiMgs6d9QG0oAq

LTT is trash
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11-29-2023 at 09:16 AM.
11-29-2023 at 09:16 AM.
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And your experience with a Gen 5 SSD is what? None? Right...thought so.

https://youtu.be/jnMMtbVP0ps?si=kuGo-SM2gKXkYQOr
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11-29-2023 at 10:27 AM.
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Hotdam that's fast! Can it really sustain those speeds?
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11-29-2023 at 11:26 AM.
11-29-2023 at 11:26 AM.
This or 990 pro?
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11-29-2023 at 09:13 PM.
11-29-2023 at 09:13 PM.
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That's some fast speed. Waiting for the "99% of people won't notice" comments...

Games have to actually be programmed to use that speed, otherwise, no… there won't really be a difference besides maybe a second or two. That's just how it works.

So many people think that the faster/more powerful the hardware, the more you're going to automatically get out of games. That's incorrect. That's why people will always step in and say that you won't notice a difference, because there literally isn't one; or at most, there's barely a difference.

Think of it like framerates. Plenty of people's PCs can run any game at 120fps or more, but the games actually have to have the option to run them at those framerates. The PS5 is powerful enough to run every PS4 game at 60fps or higher, yet hardly any of them are above 30fps, because they haven't been programmed for that.

It's the same principle with SSDs. No matter the speed, if the game isn't programmed to take advantage of that, you're not going to benefit. Not one single game uses anywhere near the full bandwidth of even the slowest SSD, right now.
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11-29-2023 at 09:17 PM.
11-29-2023 at 09:17 PM.
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That's some fast speed. Waiting for the "99% of people won't notice" comments...
My PC loads 3 seconds quicker in a map change for CS2 compared to my daughter's PC. She is in the 1%.
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11-29-2023 at 11:02 PM.

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11-29-2023 at 11:02 PM.
Quote from Shake-N-Bake :
Games have to actually be programmed to use that speed, otherwise, no… there won't really be a difference besides maybe a second or two. That's just how it works.

So many people think that the faster/more powerful the hardware, the more you're going to automatically get out of games. That's incorrect. That's why people will always step in and say that you won't notice a difference, because there literally isn't one; or at most, there's barely a difference.

Think of it like framerates. Plenty of people's PCs can run any game at 120fps or more, but the games actually have to have the option to run them at those framerates. The PS5 is powerful enough to run every PS4 game at 60fps or higher, yet hardly any of them are above 30fps, because they haven't been programmed for that.

It's the same principle with SSDs. No matter the speed, if the game isn't programmed to take advantage of that, you're not going to benefit. Not one single game uses anywhere near the full bandwidth of even the slowest SSD, right now.

This isn't entirely true when it comes to PCs.

On consoles? Maybe. But PCs have a lot more flexibility in what can be controlled and even moreso when you include mods.

In terms of load speeds, a higher bandwidth NVME drive won't make a perceivable difference, but it's not because the game isn't "programmed" to take advantage of it. It's simply because there isn't really that much data to transfer at any given moment. That may change when Direct Storage gets more ubiquitous, but that's not the case currently.

As for your FPS anecdote, it's completely inaccurate.

Consoles are targeting 30FPS on quality profiles because they literally can't attain 60FPS and render games at full resolution with the highest possible quality. They added the option for higher framerates at the expense of lower resolution because some people prefer that.

On a PC with the right hardware, you can have your cake and eat it too. And that's regardless of whether the game allows it, because you have the option of turning off VSync or a mod will be available to uncap the FPS.

By the same token, most games on PC will render at higher resolution and quality than the developers intended, as this is a function of the graphics card and drivers themselves.

No developer has to step in and allow more antialiasing or 8K screen resolution — the card will just do it.
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11-29-2023 at 11:17 PM.
11-29-2023 at 11:17 PM.
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And your experience with a Gen 5 SSD is what? None? Right...thought so.

How could it befit this current generation of game? we only would need drives as fast as Gen 4 until the new super awesome games come out.
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11-30-2023 at 05:58 AM.
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That's some fast speed. Waiting for the "99% of people won't notice" comments...

Lol people use to say that about 4gb of memory, then 6gb, then 8gb..
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11-30-2023 at 07:53 AM.
11-30-2023 at 07:53 AM.
For anyone attracted to this deal but you're not sure if you *need* it: Gen 6 is rapidly approaching. Could be in consumer products as early as 2024 or 2025. If you're able to wait, those speeds will double Gen 5.

Another note, most games do not utilize Gen 5 properly, and those that do currently only shave off mere seconds of load time.

One more point, this goes for researching any "gaming" NVMEs: Random 4k is more important than sequential. All the marketing materials will always boast the sequential speeds, which are good for loading large single files (e.g. video editing). But games load random files at random times, and those speeds tend to be much slower. Many in the industry are still saying we are not really "there" yet with Random 4k, so this isn't a true upgrade.

So while this is a good deal on paper, it's unnecessary for most people. Only consider buying if your current NVME is on its last leg, or you have an excess of spending cash.
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11-30-2023 at 08:02 AM.
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Lol people use to say that about 4gb of memory, then 6gb, then 8gb..
No one will need more than 640K of ram.

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